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Sora No Otoshimono: Attack potency and speed

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Well, lifewiping the Earth in one shot by scorching the planet is High 6-A. Other methods may not be.

I suppose that destroying hundreds of country level characters in one shot may make whoever performed the feat higher than their rating, but I am not sure about our exact practices regarding such situations.

I am not aware about comparative differences in power between the characters, but would appreciate community input.
 
Basically it's Pandora>>>>>>>>>>Melan>>>>>>>>>Base. Granted, the power gap between each one is astronomical. I don't see what would put Pandora Ikaros above "At least Country level, likely higher" though.
 
Okay, and that is Ikaros' current rating then?
 
Okay. Thank you for the help. Do any other SNO characters need to be adjusted as well?
 
Kaltias said:
Basically it's Pandora>>>>>>>>>>Melan>>>>>>>>>Base. Granted, the power gap between each one is astronomical. I don't see what would put Pandora Ikaros above "At least Country level, likely higher" though.
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you're forgetting the other angeloids and why not?

Base Ikaros was able to life wipe a country and violently fragmented a country. Uranus Queen Ikaros Apollon is able to destroy Japan and her shield can contain the blast. She also stated that her Aegis can life wipe the world.

Pandora mode should be above that.
 
Antvasima said:
Well, lifewiping the Earth in one shot by scorching the planet is High 6-A. Other methods may not be.

I suppose that destroying hundreds of country level characters in one shot may make whoever performed the feat higher than their rating, but I am not sure about our exact practices regarding such situations.

I am not aware about comparative differences in power between the characters, but would appreciate community input.
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what would lowering the air pressure and powerful cylcones be? I can post link of the melans that Ikaros and Nymph killed.
 
Aegis isn't even a weapon, it's a shield. Also, because we don't say "this guy is far stronger than this one so it jumps a tier" unless the former was already in the high end of the tier. For example, Godcat is 4-B scaling from Akro's High 4-C feat, but that's because Akron already sits at the high end of High 4-C. Not just because she is stronger

@Ant

Probably Chaos and Astrea
 
@Kaltias Okay. I would appreciate if you are willing to adjust all of them appropriately.
 
Kaltias said:
Aegis isn't even a weapon, it's a shield. Also, because we don't say "this guy is far stronger than this one so it jumps a tier" unless the former was already in the high end of the tier. For example, Godcat is 4-B scaling from Akro's High 4-C feat, but that's because Akron already sits at the high end of High 4-C. Not just because she is stronger

@Ant

Probably Chaos and Astrea
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I understand. should the Melan be large country level scaling from Ikaros then?
 
No. They should be "at least Country level, possibly higher". Ikaros is high end Small Country level to low end Country level
 
Kaltias said:
No. They should be "at least Country level, possibly higher". Ikaros is high end Small Country level to low end Country level
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I thought violently fragmenting a country is low end country level which base Ikaros did. Uranus Queen Ikaros was about to destroy Japan in one shot. Should not that be country level?
 
I mean, I can do calcs to find out her tier when I find time to reread the manga. If it will result in an upgrade, fine by me. But until then, Unknown is the best option
 
Kaltias said:
@Kasy

The method of destruction is unclear so it's better this way.
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can you explain what you mean by this? I can post scans of her life wiping and violently fragmenting a country. I'm sure you already seem the Uranus Queen Apollon Scan.
 
if I read it wrong but Destroying Japan should be high country level.

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https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Darkanine/Masadaverse:_Vaporizing_a_Country?comments_page=1
"In 1945, when the United States launched a nuclear attack on the town of Hiroshima, the nuclear blast completely destroyed everything within an approximate 1.6 km2 (1 mile2) radius. As of a 2006 survey, Japan's land superficy is that of 374,834 km2 (232,911 miles). Thus, we can safely say, that a single one of Apollon's arrows has an area of effect that is 232911x bigger then the nuclear bomb that was dropped on Hiroshima."

Also remember that Pandora mode is capable to completely repair, re-write and recreate the weapons and technology an angeloid uses in order to evolve them into a far superior model in accordance with the angeloid's own experience and capabilities. It is thought, that this program not only allows angeloids to feel actual human emotions, but also operates on them. Only activating when the angeloid's emotions become so intense that they surpass what should be possible.

so it would make sense Pandora Mode Ikaros is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Uranus Queen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Base Ikaros
 
Apollon isn't a nuke. It's just a very powerful explosion. We don't know the mechanics behind it
 
Kaltias said:
Apollon isn't a nuke. It's just a very powerful explosion. We don't know the mechanics behind it
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I think that was just providing details on how powerful the explosion can be. What we do know is that her weapons come from Synapse and they are known for explosions since they created the Bing Bang. Btw if Hiyori is proven 6A would that upgrade everyone as well too because I can post the scans.
 
No, nuke explosions>>>>>>>regular explosions in term of energy. Also Antoniofer calced it at Small Country in the other thread
 
Kaltias said:
It is a regular explosions, it's just huge.
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like you said we dont know the mechanics behind the explosion. just explosion wise it is 232911x bigger then the nuclear bomb that was dropped on Hiroshima." Tbh I'm sure it is a power nuke. I can post scans.
 
It isn't about the power, it's about the mechanics of the explosion. But if you have scans about it working based on nuclear fission/fusion, feel free to post them
 
It's about how the reaction works, not how the explosion looks like. We don't assume that every explosion above 7-B is a nuke just because it's>>>>>>>>actual nukes
 
well I have a some scans to share http://*********.me/manga/sora-no-o...***.me/manga/sora-no-otoshimono/s1/v20/c77/11 This is Ikaros taking Tomoki to Synpase. Synapse was stated by Suguta to be a new continent. When the angels made a wish on the rules years before stated it was a world. The Angeloids creator said that it was a land of once hundreds of millions of people. The entrance alone is bigger than Japan. (I can share that scan too if you want)

http://*********.me/manga/sora-no-otoshimono/s1/v20/c77/59 here their creator stated it was a world

I also have scans of another angel calling it a continent.

http://*********.me/manga/sora-no-otoshimono/s1/v20/c77/60

she stated they build their society bit by bit and Ikaros attacked Synapse in the time period of BC. Meaning they had a lot of time to rebuild non organic islands. it would make no sense for them to crawl out of evolutions as stated and be on Synpase when they created the big bang.

also I like to bring to attention that Nymph, Astraea and, The harpies fought Ikaros when she attacked Synapsed to stop her. Nymph stated that she was in Uranus Queen form when she attacked the Synpase. She could have did what she did when she attack that country in base form. also Remember that Artemis power depends on her emotions and her Apollon is even stronger. remember this happened when Syanpse didn't have any weapons. the only thing they had was the rule and what ever it was that created the big bang (which I'm sure was an accident)

also it was never stated that an Apollon only had enough power to destroy Japan. considering Synpase entrance is just as big as Japan if not bigger. Ikaros was able to destroy a lot of land.

up to now Synapse is equip with all kinds of weapons including Zeus, who is a power blaster that protects all of Synpase. Zeus power output far surpassed Uranus Queen and Pandora Ikaros. Stated by the leader of Synpase and his servants Pandora Chaos can take on Syanpse itself when she absorbed the melan Angeloids. She also evolved in Pandora mode 2 and still had the melan powers along with Hiyori. Pandora Mode Astraea is able to fight her evenly and got overpowered. Pandora mode 2 Astraea took down Chaos.

Also Hiyori who is weaker than Uranus Queen mode is able to life wipe earth. which is at least small continental to high. if that is true power scaling Uranus Queen Mode is more powerful along with, Chaos, Melan Army, Zeus, Pandora Ikaros/Nymph and Astraea.

Ikaros stated that her shield can life wipe Earth. Now keep in mind that shields can be used for defensive and offensive types. Ikaros is able to trap her enemies in shields. She is able to block air and the air pressure.
 
sorry it is a weird text box showing and it does not show all the words.

it says she stated they build their society bit by bit and Ikaros attacked Synapse in the time period of BC. Meaning they had a lot of time to rebuild non organic islands. it would make no sense for them to crawl out of evolutions as stated and be on Synpase when they created the big bang.
 
What do you think Kaltias?

In any case, I am getting tired of the constant discussions regarding this subject, and would prefer if we close the thread soon.
 
@Ant

You can close this for me.

@Kasy

I think that I already explained the other time that Ikaros has not obliterated Synapse in a single shot, so we can't really give her a tier for that.

Hyori wasn't going to bust the surface to life wipe the Earth. Life wiping can be as low as Island level

If she use the shield to block air, that's obviously not AP
 
@Kaltias Okay. I will close this thread.

@Kasyacarey I would appreciate if you permanently drop this subject. Thank you.
 
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