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Sora No Otoshimono: Attack potency and speed

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I have a question about Nymph page. Should she be continental too like it says from Ikaros? She didn't just kill one Melan Angeloid she killed an army that contained melan Nymph, Astraea, and, Ikaros. Here are links of the scans http://www.mangahome.com/manga/sora_no_otoshimono/v13/c055/38.html http://www.mangahome.com/manga/sora_no_otoshimono/v13/c055/39.html Ikaros is more powerful than nymph. I think that Ikaros should be large continent level or multi continental.

Chaos while in pandora already surpassed ikaros when she absorbed the melan angeloids cores and it Ikaros wasn't even in pandora form long. http://www.mangahome.com/manga/sora_no_otoshimono/v13/c056/27.html

Chaos was able to block Nymph same blast that killed several angeloids http://www.mangahome.com/manga/sora_no_otoshimono/v13/c056/34.html

She was able to fight pandora Ikaros and even manage to have enough power that Ikaros stated she could not block everything. http://www.mangahome.com/manga/sora_no_otoshimono/v13/c056/36.html http://www.mangahome.com/manga/sora_no_otoshimono/v13/c056/37.html http://www.mangahome.com/manga/sora_no_otoshimono/v13/c056/38.html

Astraea was able to defeat Chaos in the end by going Pandora level 2. Shouldnt she at least be moon level or small planet?

Ikaros laser canon Hephaestus is capable of shattering on impact like it states in her bio on here. Its not in her attack potency. All her powers are upgraded with pandora form, so should not it be large planet level?

Also Ikaros speed bio says "Massively FTL+ reactions (Her speed is amped by 372%,can react in femtoseconds)" that is false

This her femtoseconds reactions http://www.mangahome.com/manga/sora_no_otoshimono/v13/c056/6.html

Reacts to melan Astraea flying behind her http://www.mangahome.com/manga/sora_no_otoshimono/v13/c056/7.html

Increases her speed by 372% http://www.mangahome.com/manga/sora_no_otoshimono/v13/c056/8.html

Even keep accelerating her speed http://www.mangahome.com/manga/sora_no_otoshimono/v13/c056/9.html

All of these scans happened in order of course you can click the links and see.


It's even stated that everything Ikaros just did was a self test and turned on her true power. http://www.mangahome.com/manga/sora_no_otoshimono/v13/c056/10.html
 
Destroying hundreds of Country level characters at once doesn't make you Continent level, that just makes you more Country level.

In addition, Ikaros and Ikaros Melan are scaled to each other. Did Ikaro's Aegis stop Apollon?
 
Reppuzan said:
Destroying hundreds of Country level characters at once doesn't make you Continent level, that just makes you more Country level.

In addition, Ikaros and Ikaros Melan are scaled to each other. Did Ikaro's Aegis stop Apollon?
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I don't understand wouldn't killing one country level character make you country level? Ikaros aegis can stop apollon as she stated there were too many and she could not get them all in time. How are they scaled from each other? Ikaros melan far surpass Uranus queen Ikaros and every aspect including weapons and armour. When Ikaros activated pandora form she took out an army of Ikaros Melans. Her profile has her at continent level for that. Nymph was able to do the same thing and she is way weaker than Ikaros. She could not even sustain her power output long enough in that form. Nymph should be continental level since she did the same thing Ikaros did. Ikaros should be higher considering she is stronger than Nymph. As stated and showm in the scans Chaos far surpassed Ikaros power. Astraea pandora mode was able to fight Chaos. Pandora mode 2 she soloed chaos.

Ikaros Hephaestus canon should at least make her planet to large planet level.
 
But why are they Country level.

AP does not always correlate to Durability. As far as I'm aware, Ikaros' only Country-level attack is Apollon, which doesn't scale to her durability.

Give it to me straight, can Ikaros tank Ikaros Melan's Apollon?

Also, taking out hundreds of Country level targets doesn't mean she gets an upgrade. Killing a hundred people with a gun doesn't make it Building level.
 
Reppuzan said:
But why are they Country level.

AP does not always correlate to Durability. As far as I'm aware, Ikaros' only Country-level attack is Apollon, which doesn't scale to her durability.

Give it to me straight, can Ikaros tank Ikaros Melan's Apollon?

Also, taking out hundreds of Country level targets doesn't mean she gets an upgrade. Killing a hundred people with a gun doesn't make it Building level.
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Actually they should be large country level since each one is far superior than Ikaros.

After taking a beat dowm from Melan Ikaros http://www.mangahome.com/manga/sora_no_otoshimono/v13/c055/3.html She jumped in front of melan apollon https://m.imgur.com/a/ta2uE And still managed to get pandora form.

Melan Ikaros did manage to withstand base form Astraea strength. Astraea was able to knock an angeloid from Japan to the desert. Ikaros in base from with out any armour is able to withstand 3000 meters underwater and even further with her pressure resistant armour.

The melan angeloids trump that all since they are more powerful.
 
What's their normal durability.

As far as I can tell, Aegis is only a shield. As long as they don't take Apollon dead on, we can't rate that for their normal durability.

In addition, we can't scale Ikaro's normal attacks to the power of Apollon.
 
Ikaros took a beating from Ikaros Melan(strength only) and Melan broke Astraea shield with one punch that is stronger than Ikaros shield. Ikaros shield can easy tank apollon.
 
Reppuzan said:
What's their normal durability.

As far as I can tell, Aegis is only a shield. As long as they don't take Apollon dead on, we can't rate that for their normal durability.

In addition, we can't scale Ikaro's normal attacks to the power of Apollon.
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There was no shield in nothing. They took it everything I mentioned head on. Ikaros took apollon head on and activated her shield to contain the explosion. Look at my post above.
 
I think that Reppuzan seems to make sense.

What changes are suggested for the speed statistics?
 
I fail to see why her reactions would be upgraded above MFTL+. Her speed isn't infinite.

She could be a decillion of times faster and she would still be MFTL+
 
Yes, that is true of course.
 
I also don't see how accelerating her speed at the 372% is something impressive when being MFTL+ is already a dozen of orders of magnitude faster than her previous top speed.

Reacting to Melan Astraea is also not impressive because Melan Astraea has no MFTL+ feats.

The fact that she kept accelerating just means that she is faster than the femtoseconds feat to a degree. She is still MFTL+
 
Kaltias said:
I also don't see how accelerating her speed at the 372% is something impressive when being MFTL+ is already a dozen of orders of magnitude faster than her previous top speed.

Reacting to Melan Astraea is also not impressive because Melan Astraea has no MFTL+ feats.

The fact that she kept accelerating just means that she is faster than the femtoseconds feat to a degree. She is still MFTL+
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I was just showing that not show she reacted in femtoseconds.
 
Nymph in pandora form was able to kill a melan nymph and 23 mealn ikaros. I already gave scans where base Ikaros tank country level attacks and she wasnt even uranus queen mode. Ikaros recovered and went in to Pandora form destroyed the rest of the army. 1 melan astraea and 6 melans ikaros in power testing mode and 10 melan ikaros in normal mode. Nymph killed more than she did and shes is weaker than ikaros. Pandora Ikaros was able to fight pandora + melan absorbed Chaos in battle before she whipped out several apollon. Pandora mode Astraea was able to fight Chaos and Pandora mode 2 Astraea soloed Chaos. I think some power scaling should be used with Ikaros, Chaos, and Astraea.
 
I think that Reppuzan and Kaltias seem to have answered the topics that were brought up here. Perhaps we should close this thread?
 
they didn't. I showing how Ikaros got her speed the info in her bio was wrong. it doesn't make sense that Nymph killed 23 melan Ikaros each one have greater durability than base form and Uranus Queen Ikaros. I already showed base form Ikaros tanking country level hits and explosion. nynph bio shows her at country level for killing one melan when thats false. ikaros killed less than her and is at large country level to likely continental. nymph should be stronger than country level. She literally did more than Ikaros and shes weaker than Ikaros, Astraea, and Chaos. nymph should be large country level to likely continental (North America has 23 countries). Powerscaling Ikaros should be continental or at least multi because she beyond stronger than Nymph. chaos should be multi or at least moon level and Astraea should be Moon level+ likely small planet level.
 
What i'm saying is that the femtosecond feat is the only thing making her MFTL+. The others aren't needed.

Ikaros has no reason to be High 6-B to 6-A to begin with. Also they aren't going to jump whole tiers this easily. The gaps between those are massive.
 
Kaltias said:
What i'm saying is that the femtosecond feat is the only thing making her MFTL+. The others aren't needed.

Ikaros has no reason to be High 6-B to 6-A to begin with. Also they aren't going to jump whole tiers this easily. The gaps between those are massive.
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why not? I posted scans of Base Form Ikaros tanking country level attacks. She took a physical beating from Melan Ikaros, who was able to break Astraea shield with a single punch. Astraea shield stated by their creator is more powerful than Ikaros shield. Ikaros shield is able to tank an apollon. She also tanked an apollon from Ikaros melan. Even @Reppuzan said that Ikaros Melan is scaled off Ikaros. Ikaros melan trumps base form Ikaros and Uranus queen form in every stat. Nymph profile has her at country level for killing one Melan Ikaros. Which is false. She killed 24 melan angeloids. 1 melan nymph and 23 melan Ikaros. Shouldn't Nymph be large country level likely continental or Continental if she was able to kill 23 melan Ikaros? Pandora mode Ikaros only killed one melan Astraea and 16 melan Ikaros and shes higher than Nymph for some reason. Nymph killed more than Ikaros and is somehow at country level for it. like I stated before she should be large country level likely continental while Ikaros should be continental since shes stronger than Nymph. Pandora + Melan absorbed Chaos was able to fight Ikaros and Nymph and over power them both together. later on Chaos then absorbed Hiyori. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Hiyori_Kazane Hiyori was mind controled and ordered to life wipe the earth. not even the angeloids could stop her. Nymph was only able to stop her by free her from the mind control. If I'm not mistaken life wiping the earth is multi continental. I can post scans Pandora Mode + Melan and Hiyori Chaos was able to fight evenly with Pandora mode Astraea and Pandora mode 2 Astraea was able to defeat Chaos.
 
I also I need to correct myself it seems that Pandora Mode + Melan Absorbed Chaos fought and overpowered Pandora Mode Ikaros and Nymph, who are more powerul than Hiyori, who had enough power to life wipe earth. Pandora Mode 2 + Melan and Hiyori absorbed Chaos was able to fight evenly with Pandora mode Astraea and even overpower her at the end. Pandora Mode 2 Astraea straight up defeated Chaos.
 
Kaltias said:
Life wiping the Earth is hax, not AP
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how so? as stated in the other Sno revison. Life wiping earth is multiple continental. Boros is at multi continental because he can life wipe earth.
 
Kaltias said:
No, it's because he can bust the surface
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how is life wiping earth a hax? she lowering the air pressure around the world and had multiple tornados rampaging. The Angeloids were unaffected and the only reason they were in a shield for some time is that Hiyori winds were shredding their wings. Ikaros was able to life wipe a country and what she used is not hax. What would life wiping the earth be then? she has global range just like Ikaros.

also Ikaros range should be upgraded to planetary. https://m.imgur.com/a/Au5wP https://m.imgur.com/a/7FrFy

also would not Ikaros be life wiping too with Aegis? https://m.imgur.com/a/7FrFy
 
I asked in the chat and it was stated that life wiping the earth is High 6A. I have the screenshots. Base Form Ikaros is able life wipe a country and devastate a it and tank several country level attacks. Uranus Queen mode is capable of destroying Japan in one blow with just one apollon. Ikaros Aegis is able to contain the explosion and it was stated by Ikaros that she could use it to life wipe/Clean the world. Astraea has the strongest weapons stated by their creator. Her sword is powerful enough to cut through Aegis also stated by their master. As stated above Aegis is able to tank an apollon and stated to life wipe Earth (I was told that would high continental) Chaos was able to defeat Nymph and Ikaros via illusions. While they were defeated Astraea was able to take Chaos in battle and they were fighting evenly till Chaos started using long range powers. Ikaros healed went into Uranus Queen mode and fought Chaos. Ikaros could not defeat her so she sent her to the bottom of the ocean. (Angeloids cant swim) While Chaos in the ocean she starts absorbing all the fish for more power. She even went on to absorb an marine warfare angeloid that was designed to defeat Ikaros. After that Chaos activated Pandora mode to fight the angeloids again along the fish and angeloid she absorbed for power. They were only able to fight Chaos because Nymph hacked Chaos system making her weak and she hacked and upgraded the team powers. Hiyori was ordered to life wipe the earth which is high continental and able to stomp base form Ikaros, Astraea and Nymph. However we don't know if she could do it to Uranus Queen Ikaros. Nymph in pandora mode was able to destroy several Melan Ikaros that are far Superior than base and Uranus queen mode. Base Ikaros was able to withstand a beating from Melan Ikaros and her apollon. Ikaros in pandora mode was also able to destroy alot of melan ikaros. Pandora mode + Marine warfare and Melan army absorbed Chaos was able to take Pandora Nymph and Ikaros in battle at the same time and over power them. Pandora mode 2 + Marine warfare + Melan army + Hiyori absorbed Chaos was able to fight Pandora Astraea evenly and manage to overpower her Pandora form. Pandora mode 2 Astraea soloed Chaos and sliced through 9 apollon.
 
@Kasyacarey

This is starting to get tiresome and repetitive. We have answered the issues you have brought up previously. Perhaps we should close this thread? I would also appreciate if you then drop the subject.
 
Antvasima said:
@Kasyacarey

This is starting to get tiresome and repetitive. We have answered the issues you have brought up previously. Perhaps we should close this thread? I would also appreciate if you then drop the sibject.
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I know and I am sorry. I'm finding it hard to believe that Pandora Nymph is far below Pandora Ikaros when she killed more than Ikaros. I do agree that Ikaros is more powerful than Nymph, but at that time Nymph did more than Ikaros in one shot. Also I was told that life wiping the earth is High 6A if that is true it would play a huge part in the revision. Hiyori is able to life wipe the earth and Uranus Mode Ikaros stated her Aegis can. I can post scans if needed. Back to the melan vs Nymph and Ikaros. @Reppuzan said that Melan Ikaros is scaled off Ikaros herself. I gave scans of base form Ikaros tanking multiple country level attacks. Melan far exceed base Ikaros in every stat. Nymph killed 23 and Ikaros killed 16. Chaos absorbed an angeloid that was meant to kill Ikaros. She also reached pandora mode too. Pandora + Marine warfare angeloid absorbed Chaos absorbed the entire melan army. Chaos used this power to fight Pandora mode Nymph and Ikaros and managed to overpower them. Chaos evolved once again and absorbed Hiyori, who can life wipe earth. Pandora mode 2 Melan army + Marine angeloid + Hiyori absorbed Chaos fought Pandora mode Astraea evenly and managed to overpower her. Pandora Mode 2 Astraea was able to defeat Chaos. also @Reppuzan earlier said "Destroying hundreds of Country level characters at once doesn't make you Continent level, that just makes you more Country level." which didn't make sense to me because if I bust 8 planets at once it doesn't makes more planet level it makes me far beyond it. Also as stated if Life Wipng is High 6A it could play a big part. Base forms Ikaros, Nymph and Astraea < Hiyori < Uranus Queen Mode < Pandora Chaos < Melan army < Pandora Nymph < Pandora Ikaros < Pandora Astraea < Pandora 2 and Absorbed marine + melan army Chaos < Pandora 2 Astraea
 
@Antvasima I also posted scans of Uranus Queen Ikaros having planetary range. Chaos should have it too since she has Melan powers.
 
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