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Mario's Time Machine's list of inaccuracies, and its doubtful canonicity, are things that would concern me with using it as evidence.
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It does seem like the kind of game that seems like it should not be canon, but you know how Mario canon is...Mario's Time Machine's list of inaccuracies, and its doubtful canonicity, are things that would concern me with using it as evidence.
Most of the evidence in the 1-A blog is similar to the evidence used to upgrade ArceusCurrently? I dont think any accepted 1-A threads via BDE Type 2 have been accepted so far, beside maybe Arceus, but there are other reasons on that thread aswell
Don't you dare take 1-A Arceus away from usMost of the evidence in the 1-A blog is similar to the evidence used to upgrade Arceus(although I do have some discrepancies about him being outer)so chances are you’re in the clear.
Can’t wait for the next pokemon game to delve into lore about Arceus’ true form, firmly contradicting 1-A in the processDon't you dare take 1-A Arceus away from us
Oh. I see. How come this hasn't been queued yet?Possible Mario Upgrade to 1-A (Outerversal)
The Mario verse includes Matter Splatter Galaxy, which is a superspace. Raw: ちょうくうかん しめ みち Translation: Super-space Shime Shime Superspaces contain the concept of space-time, making them Outerversal. (This video explains why the concept of space-time is Outerversal: ) The concept of...vsbattles.comOuterversal Mario scale?
I recently found a scale on a Discord server which seems to get Mario to Outerversal. Is it legit? The Gentle Pull within Mario is the force of desire to be reunited with someone important to you. This desire force was applied to Mario as he's referred towards it and can influence it shown...vsbattles.com
Not the same argument, but yet the same topic
I appriciate your efforts with Sonic Powerscaling.I've been wanting to upgrade Mario cosmology for a while now. It should be at the very least Low 1-C, possibly 1-C. There are even some decent arguments for 1-B in my opinion. Too lazy though. That's someone else's job. I'm almost exclusively a Sonic power-scaler now. I check up on other verses every now and then, but don't invest my time and effort into any of them even if I may want to.
Cause it sucks lol. One of them can be reworked and used to argue for 5D instead, but nothing higherOh. I see. How come this hasn't been queued yet?
Thank you!I appriciate your efforts with Sonic Powerscaling.
I think the Chaos Force being above all of the abstract concepts/higher dimensional plane of existences prove otherwise. Adding onto how events of Sonic Generations is now canon in the Archie Sonic verse making the White-Space present within the cosmology show that the Chaos Force should be above every single spatiotemporal differentiation in Archie Sonic's verse.The thing about Arceus is that he is directly stated to be above every single spatiotemporal differentiation, the Chaos Force ins´t
Maybe you can argue for some stuff like "space and time being irrelevant" but the proof ins´t that strong imo
Yeah Arceus has his own stuff that the Chaos Force doesn't.The thing about Arceus is that he is directly stated to be above every single spatiotemporal differentiation, the Chaos Force ins´t
So... Yeah lol"As a default, statements of being "above dimensions" are set at Low 1-A, and the same is applied to statements indicating superiority over "All of space and time," and similar. However, if they are applied to realms that can be inferred to surpass the very composition of the lower reality (e.g. Realms that are, themselves, non-composite, such as conceptual domains, or often, voids of nothingness), then 1-A is the most appropriate rating for them." - Under Type 2 BDE
Because it would just take up space of other threadsOh. I see. How come this hasn't been queued yet?
That was the point of my comment, you can´t compare bothYeah Arceus has his own stuff that the Chaos Force doesn't.
None of this qualifies for 1-A and none of your logic proves it being above every single spatiotemporal differentiationI think the Chaos Force being above all of the abstract concepts/higher dimensional plane of existences prove otherwise. Adding onto how events of Sonic Generations is now canon in the Archie Sonic verse making the White-Space present within the cosmology show that the Chaos Force should be above every single spatiotemporal differentiation in Archie Sonic's verse.
Yeah after looking at that thread, it's not good at all.Cause it sucks lol. One of them can be reworked and used to argue for 5D instead, but nothing higher
Of courseThank you!
I mean on his profiles, it states that he's beyond space-time instead superiority over all spatiotemporal differentiationsThe thing about Arceus is that he is directly stated to be above every single spatiotemporal differentiation, the Chaos Force ins´t
Well there is also Chaos Force binds everything which would include the Concept of Space-Time and is superior to everythingMaybe you can argue for some stuff like "space and time being irrelevant" but the proof ins´t that strong imo
Because many of the Badnik pages are old and don't account for Modern scaling, mostly since they were made far before IDW and the likes made scaling more reasonable. So it needs to be fixed eventuallyGuys I have a question about the Badniks
The Egg Fleet lists the Modern Badnik as Universe level+ although the individual Badnik only get Wall level scaling. Does anyone know why this is?
Are each Badnik going to get era keys for scaling?Because many of the Badnik pages are old and don't account for Modern scaling, mostly since they were made far before IDW and the likes made scaling more reasonable. So it needs to be fixed eventually
The Death Battle staff wanting him to win lolWhat are Bowser's wincons again?
Because blitzing sure as hell isn't one of them.
I made a cursed sonic vs thread.
Thread 'Hedgehog Caught In A Hero Summoning!' https://vsbattles.com/threads/hedgehog-caught-in-a-hero-summoning.171087/
Layered transmutation, existance erasure, corruption via Black PaintWhat are Bowser's wincons again?
Because blitzing sure as hell isn't one of them.
Can he do these before he gets erased by incomprehensible speed & power?Layered transmutation, existance erasure, corruption via Black Paint
Currently I believe some people in the DB community think Bowser will get similar speed to Eggman, (I disagree because you can vastly upscale within Immeasurable, so even if Bowser is immeasurable Eggman's Robots would be at an incomprehensibly higher level than Bowser).Can he do these before he gets erased by incomprehensible speed?
I don't think so, but they will likely be placed at comparable speedsCan he do these before he gets erased by incomprehensible speed & power?
Bowser helped defeat Culex, who was a threat to all of space-time.I not seeing how they're going to get Bowser to anywhere near multi+/extra-dimensional or immeasurable speed without grasping at some straws.
Unless there's some Mario scaling I'm unaware of...
You see the Chad Mario has reacted to spaceships traveling several trillion c while the virgin sonic has yet to prove he's faster than light in canon.The Death Battle staff wanting him to win lol
Don't forget that Mario vs Sonic 2018 was 6 years ago, and only 7 years after the show's humble beginnings. It was episode 100 and we're now almost at episode 200. They've had more than enough time to update thier research since then and I'm positive it will be different. I'm just not confident that it'll be different enough for it to be based like Billcord wasI feel the strategic and commanding advantage of Team Eggman is, personally, obvious. So, I feel Death Battle would likely have Bowser win if:
1. Too large a stat gap to do anything.
2. Somehow unkillable, and they don't (for some reason??) buy Cyber Space, Chaos Control BFR, or Null Space.
I don't at all feel Death Battle reaches conclusions out of malice, or anything. But, I do really hope they fully re-analyze both mainline Mario and Sonic, instead of basically building off of pre-existing research they have. I want them to treat them as if they've never before looked into either franchise, lest we once against have Stadium VS Large Stalactite battle as their peak.
The blood in my body will, in-fact, change state into being a Gas if they once more say that Metal Sonic's copying is imperfect. To this day, I still cannot find a source for that, myself.
I'm still surprised they settled on low 1C bill so maybe they will give super forms uni+ scaling. If dark souls can have it I'm sure sonic can too.Don't forget that Mario vs Sonic 2018 was 6 years ago, and only 7 years after the show's humble beginnings. It was episode 100 and we're now almost at episode 200. They've had more than enough time to update thier research since then and I'm positive it will be different. I'm just not confident that it'll be different enough for it to be based like Billcord was
I'm optimistic enough to expect uni+ scaling for Super forms, yes. But they will for sure also make Dreamy Bowser multiversal so it doesn't really matterI'm still surprised they settled on low 1C bill so maybe they will give super forms uni+ scaling. If dark souls can have it I'm sure sonic can too.
Again, Billcord and Ben 10 vs Green Lantern. As well as Phoenix vs Raven, Scarlet Witch vs Zatanna, and several others.Bowser will win simply because he's the most popular choice and they said they follow the popular consensus