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i don't see itI mean, for this there is sonic and knuckles 3 saying that there are infinite zones.
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Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers
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Proof?
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Now that I think about it Ian Flynn did imply Possibilities in Sonic were worlds (or universes) somewhere. If we can find that then this would work.
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But even then, if each zone has at least 1 person in it, then maginaryworld by default is 2A
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Game Sonic is indeed canon to Archie but not vice versa.
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Assuming that were the case (I don’t see where it says infinite zones in the scan), it would have to then be proven that all those zones are inhabited.
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wow, then with that logic, the world of minecraft is not infinite, because in the game only a finite terrain is generated,then the world of terraria is a planet,because we don't see planets inside the world,and then the logic goes,you understand?
again,where is the hyperbole?saying hyperbole without explaining why is not a good idea.
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1.part blue above
2.in the past throug time
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in the second one in the back through time,it says mathematically infinite generated levels
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Ok I see the “mathematically unlimited.” So what’s the source book of the scan? Needs to be a reliable source.
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Seems like they are nerfing teleportation and time travel in the last IDW issue. Silver for some reason now can't time travel at will (Even with material like Sonic Colors DS and Sonic Pict having Silver time traveling just because he wants to see something) and Blaze now can just travel between her and Sonic's world, so their dimensional travel seems to know to be limited to just these two worlds.
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I don't feel there's anything solid enough from what's shown here for 2-A Sonic, personally. By this logic, shouldn't Infinite himself be infinite in every meaning of the word because his name is infinite?
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Minecraft is a different case as over there the line between "canon" and game mechanics is blurry.
And I think I've already said why, it's literally talking over the game mechanic over the amount of non-canon playable levels.
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or maybe blaze can travel between universes,and again,Ian flynn is putting his interpretation in alot of things,he can think in a different way that what is actually is.
like,seriosly,he says sonic is not light speed,but in another time he says that sonic can restore time with his speed...yeah,pretty random guy
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Yeah, but that is something that has been put into the comic, not in a random Q&A. Not only that, but Ian said that he finally got clarification from Sonic Team about how that stuff works, so it seems like he's currently working using that as the basis.
But even in that case, the stuff he gets might contradict the games. Iizuka also said that Shadow could only use Chaos Control if he has a Chaos Emerald... so...
But even in that case, the stuff he gets might contradict the games. Iizuka also said that Shadow could only use Chaos Control if he has a Chaos Emerald... so...
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alot of more things does not make sense,so all of that is what i say.
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No it isn’t. It’s either they’re both connected to each other or neither are related to the other.
The Games has no evidence of being canon to Archie and vice versa, only certain events that happened in the games happened in the continuity of the Archie comics and even then there are notable differences in events (such as the characters present).
My opinion is that nothing in the games are applicable to Archie and vice versa until Ian Flynn himself states as such.
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The "Another Time, Another Place/Zone" stories were tie-ins with the video games at the time, reason for why it was considered that at least a version of the Game's timeline existed in the Archie multiverse before the reboot.
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The problem with Another Time Another Place is that Ian Flynn confirmed it wasn't the game universe and that each issue can be considered its own thing. There are differences as well (although slight) like Eggman being afraid of Sonic in his werehog form early on and Sonic roaring at Eggman while in that state when he first transforms.
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Ian Flynn does state Maginaryworld can maybe hold an infinite number of dream-worlds in this video (15:36)
So it may be possible.
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If I had to choose, I would say that Sonic is the video game series with the most lore and at the same time the most canon confusion that exists.
I mean, Mario has clear things, all the Marios (except paper Mario) are the same Mario, the time line is confusing but it has an "order".
but sonic beats mario in lore and by 1,000,000 years.
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Platonic Concepts like Truth, Beauty, Goodness and Justice exists in Sonic
Concepts of Higher Dimensions exists in Sonic's world
Ian states Sonic restoring Time was his speed and not an ability
The concepts of Infinity and Omega exists in Sonic
Sonic, co. and etc dream of concepts, their ambitions, goals, desires and adventures
Ian Flynn states the End is an Endless and Eternal being
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94-T1huUMDA&t=6515s
Ian states there's books on physics and theoretical physics in Sonic's world/multiverse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94-T1huUMDA&t=7005s
And yeah Model Realism is compatible with Sonic according to Ian Flynn
https://youtu.be/E1l_R7lk9oM
Model Realism is... David Lewis famously advocated for a position known as modal realism, which holds that possible worlds are real, concrete places which exist in the exact same sense that the actual world exists. On Lewis's account, the actual world is special only in that we live there.
Basically all Possibilities are actual worlds according to Modal Realism not just what could’ve been and sentences.
Concepts of Higher Dimensions exists in Sonic's world
Ian states Sonic restoring Time was his speed and not an ability
The concepts of Infinity and Omega exists in Sonic
Sonic, co. and etc dream of concepts, their ambitions, goals, desires and adventures
Ian Flynn states the End is an Endless and Eternal being
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94-T1huUMDA&t=6515s
Ian states there's books on physics and theoretical physics in Sonic's world/multiverse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94-T1huUMDA&t=7005s
And yeah Model Realism is compatible with Sonic according to Ian Flynn
https://youtu.be/E1l_R7lk9oM
Model Realism is... David Lewis famously advocated for a position known as modal realism, which holds that possible worlds are real, concrete places which exist in the exact same sense that the actual world exists. On Lewis's account, the actual world is special only in that we live there.
Basically all Possibilities are actual worlds according to Modal Realism not just what could’ve been and sentences.
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Damn my previous reply is overloaded with youtube thumbnails
I have text for each btw.
I have text for each btw.
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bro,again,this will only work maybe outside of this wiki(in other wikies will probably don't work)maybe in CSAP it will work,but again,this is VSBW,but again,VSBW is not the ''gold cheeck for profile''i mean,with the amount of rules and people ignoring things just because,well,they can,people often don't prefer to use or mention vsbw to much in general.
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There shouldn’t really be an issue if it is stated. Is there a rule on author statements or anything like that?
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I believe he’s trolling (I mean I would hope he is), even then you can’t just disregard his statements just because of that.
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but it was with the combats of ''character X character'' in a matter of lore. Ian hasn't been inconsistent when it comes to the multiverse or sonic concepts.
because again,is more problematic the character x character things that the cosmology things and lore things
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in this wiki,yes,there is,becuase,aparently,if it is not shown in a comic or stated in the source material,then...it is not valid(but again,considering the fact that friday night funkin and almost everything comes from the phantom arcade words,this rule,does not make much sense in reality)
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I see… could I see it?
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...that's the problem,you will need to search for it,or at least,i assume they have this rule...then again,this is more valid that just ussing the words from someone who has no autority in a series(cof cof,koyama,cof cof)
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So basically people are claiming there’s this rule and they’re not even sure it exists? That’s weird. Ian Flynn is a writer and on the lore manager team for Sonic The Hedgehog so it should be fine.
With possible worlds being stated to be actual by Ian Flynn this goes well with his statement about infinite possibilities existing in Sonic (that the fastest savior showed) which leads us to the conclusion that infinite worlds should exist in Sonic’s world. Sonic CD did have a manual implying possibilities are past and future worlds so this should be acceptable. Now the platonic concept stuff and other things? That’s up for debate.
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sorry,buy platonic concepts are just type 1 conceptual manipulation and they don't grant a tier(which i consider...dumb,not because of being conceptual manipulation,but just because,again,concepts are just beyond the forms that the concepts are,there is no ''NLF to the concept of higher dimensions,because is limited by cosmology''the concept of higher dimensions is simply beyond any higher dimensions until is proven the opposite,we cannot say that those concepts are bound by the number of things that exist,because,again,it needs to show the opposite,concepts are concepts,until they are not,not backwards)
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He was
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Yeah I don't really get this. Plus other higher ups above Ian actually agree with his assertions and statements.
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I’m not a concept expert so I don’t know but it should grant type 1 conceptual manipulation to those who can use the chaos emeralds at the very least.
I know for sure that if the concepts of higher dimensions exists then that should give the Sonic world High 1-B to Low 1-A cosmology scaling at least.
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