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Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

At the very least, and this is just me, it'd be neat to see them introduce more Chaos based abilities for Shadow to play around with like the new Chaos Shift power from Dream Team.
Yes, but I can already see "Chaos Shift is just a gameplay element and isn't real in lore" or "Chaos Shift is just a dream ability, Shadow can't use it outside of dream worlds", which is sad.
 
Yes, but I can already see "Chaos Shift is just a gameplay element and isn't real in lore" or "Chaos Shift is just a dream ability, Shadow can't use it outside of dream worlds", which is sad.
I don't see how Chaos Shift can't exist in reality, to be honest. I mean just based off what it does, it seems to be an application of Shadow taking advantage of Chaos Control to halt his perception of time and zip forward in a specific direction like a slingshot.

All SEGA would need to do is say that Shadow's mastery over Chaos Control would let him do some pretty gnarly stuff with it and there you go.
 
I don't see how Chaos Shift can't exist in reality, to be honest. I mean just based off what it does, it seems to be an application of Shadow taking advantage of Chaos Control to halt his perception of time and zip forward in a specific direction like a slingshot.

All SEGA would need to do is say that Shadow's mastery over Chaos Control would let him do some pretty gnarly stuff with it and there you go.
I agree, but this is the same SEGA that also won't let Rings be canon (Even though they appear in game cutscenes and also in a canonical series by their own word). Unfortunately, we can't just be logical with SEGA, only hope that they'll be.
 
So according to people who've seen the movie already, if they're proven true, Maria in the movies didn't have a terminal illness and instead just followed Gerald everywhere due to their close relationship.

Now I don't mind when an adaptation of a pre-existing piece of media tries to do its own thing and adds its own unique spin to the lore, but I'm not going to lie: Maria not having a terminal illness in the movies takes away the primary reason why Gerald created Shadow in the first place. That's just my opinion though, I'm sure others might think differently.
 
So according to people who've seen the movie already, if they're proven true, Maria in the movies didn't have a terminal illness and instead just followed Gerald everywhere due to their close relationship.

Now I don't mind when an adaptation of a pre-existing piece of media tries to do its own thing and adds its own unique spin to the lore, but I'm not going to lie: Maria not having a terminal illness in the movies takes away the primary reason why Gerald created Shadow in the first place. That's just my opinion though, I'm sure others might think differently.
i am tempted to open up this...**** it, i already got one piece spoiled
 
So according to people who've seen the movie already, if they're proven true, Maria in the movies didn't have a terminal illness and instead just followed Gerald everywhere due to their close relationship.

Now I don't mind when an adaptation of a pre-existing piece of media tries to do its own thing and adds its own unique spin to the lore, but I'm not going to lie: Maria not having a terminal illness in the movies takes away the primary reason why Gerald created Shadow in the first place. That's just my opinion though, I'm sure others might think differently.

Agree, they should keep that as part of Maria's backstory, there are a lot of interconnected pieces in Shadow's backstory that I think are too important unless they really justified Shadow's creation for some other reason, but I fear that could remove the humanity that has been developed of Gerald since Adventure 2, like the recent Gerald Journal, I fear they will just make Gerald already an evil scientist from the start, which in a way diminishes the impact of Maria's death in making Gerald lose control later on.
 
Agree, they should keep that as part of Maria's backstory, there are a lot of interconnected pieces in Shadow's backstory that I think are too important unless they really justified Shadow's creation for some other reason, but I fear that could remove the humanity that has been developed of Gerald since Adventure 2, like the recent Gerald Journal, I fear they will just make Gerald already an evil scientist from the start, which in a way diminishes the impact of Maria's death in making Gerald lose control later on.
From what I'm hearing: it sounds like Gerald was a genuinely good hearted scientist who loved Maria but went insane after her death. Still, I'm going to wait to see the movie myself to see how they characterize Gerald.
 
So... Remember the Sonic Earth calculation, the one that was modified like 100 times?... I found a small error (I think)
The error is not in the calculation itself, but in the calculation of the diameter of Lost Hex (the result of which is used in the calculation of Sonic's Earth)
Basically in the end, in the pixel scaling


In short, some things that aren't attached to the rest of the land has different heights, including the piece used to define the end of the pixel scaling line, which I think is quite noticeable that it is higher than what the diameter surface should be.
I think the best thing would be to use something like a circle surrounding Lost Hex to define where the circumference of it actually is, and use the created limit as the end point of the pixel scaling.
Then, use it in the result of the high end of the Earth calc
Is probably only LITTLE downgrade

Again, is only something I thing
Please, don't kill me
Sooooooooo...
 

what do y'all thing of this addition i made? i am proud of how it turned out
 
So... Remember the Sonic Earth calculation, the one that was modified like 100 times?... I found a small error (I think)
The error is not in the calculation itself, but in the calculation of the diameter of Lost Hex (the result of which is used in the calculation of Sonic's Earth)
Basically in the end, in the pixel scaling


In short, some things that aren't attached to the rest of the land has different heights, including the piece used to define the end of the pixel scaling line, which I think is quite noticeable that it is higher than what the diameter surface should be.
I think the best thing would be to use something like a circle surrounding Lost Hex to define where the circumference of it actually is, and use the created limit as the end point of the pixel scaling.
Then, use it in the result of the high end of the Earth calc
Is probably only LITTLE downgrade

Again, is only something I thing
Please, don't kill me
Oh, interesting. I'll contact the calcer
 

I think Keanu's delivery of lines sounds dry and some grunts sound comical, but man is it nice to hear in-game Shadow without an overly raspy voice
 
 
Question for everyone: Do you like Shadow being able to use Chaos Control only with an Emerald or do you like him being able to just use Chaos Powers without one.

Honestly, I prefer the latter but, of course, in varying degrees. A Chaos Emerald is said to be an amplifier for Black Doom's powers, so I think it'd be cool if Shadow's just able to use stuff like Chaos Control, Blast, Spear, etc etc without needing an Emerald but getting one enhances his capability with them across the board. I say all of this primarily because of the agenda Sega is pushing these days with Shadow's powers.
 
Question for everyone: Do you like Shadow being able to use Chaos Control only with an Emerald or do you like him being able to just use Chaos Powers without one.

Honestly, I prefer the latter but, of course, in varying degrees. A Chaos Emerald is said to be an amplifier for Black Doom's powers, so I think it'd be cool if Shadow's just able to use stuff like Chaos Control, Blast, Spear, etc etc without needing an Emerald but getting one enhances his capability with them across the board. I say all of this primarily because of the agenda Sega is pushing these days with Shadow's powers.
I like the idea that he can use Chaos Control in certain ways without a Chaos Emerald, like his Sonic Battle move-set, while needing one to accomplish the most advanced applications, such as stopping time. Though even without one, if he manages to build up enough energy he can do it
 
Question for everyone: Do you like Shadow being able to use Chaos Control only with an Emerald or do you like him being able to just use Chaos Powers without one.

Honestly, I prefer the latter but, of course, in varying degrees. A Chaos Emerald is said to be an amplifier for Black Doom's powers, so I think it'd be cool if Shadow's just able to use stuff like Chaos Control, Blast, Spear, etc etc without needing an Emerald but getting one enhances his capability with them across the board. I say all of this primarily because of the agenda Sega is pushing these days with Shadow's powers.
It doesn't help that games like Shadow 05 and Sonic Forces blatantly show Shadow using Chaos Control just fine without the need of a Chaos Emerald.

My answer is that I'm fine with both interpretations. I don't mind Shadow needing a Chaos Emerald to use Chaos Control, as long as it's specified that he uses a Emerald to amplify the range and potency of Chaos Control compared to if he used it with his innate Chaos Energy.
 
It doesn't help that games like Shadow 05 and Sonic Forces blatantly show Shadow using Chaos Control just fine without the need of a Chaos Emerald.

My answer is that I'm fine with both interpretations. I don't mind Shadow needing a Chaos Emerald to use Chaos Control, as long as it's specified that he uses a Emerald to amplify the range and potency of Chaos Control compared to if he used it with his innate Chaos Energy.
except that for Shadow 05 it was a CRUSUAL story element that he needed a emerald, adn Forces we know is just shit writing.
 
Question for everyone: Do you like Shadow being able to use Chaos Control only with an Emerald or do you like him being able to just use Chaos Powers without one.

Honestly, I prefer the latter but, of course, in varying degrees. A Chaos Emerald is said to be an amplifier for Black Doom's powers, so I think it'd be cool if Shadow's just able to use stuff like Chaos Control, Blast, Spear, etc etc without needing an Emerald but getting one enhances his capability with them across the board. I say all of this primarily because of the agenda Sega is pushing these days with Shadow's powers.
It doesn't really bother me that the guy needs an emerald, because this just proves that everyone can do it, but everyone needs an emerald, and that Shadow can do it without one shows that the guy is BREAKING THE SYSTEM
 
It doesn't really bother me that the guy needs an emerald, because this just proves that everyone can do it, but everyone needs an emerald, and that Shadow can do it without one shows that the guy is BREAKING THE SYSTEM
Well he was creating using their energy

Though Shadow being able to use the most advanced applications of Chaos Control without a Chaos Emerald makes him too comparatively overpowered
 
Well he was creating using their energy
Not just created, his tissue and DNA were grafted using Chaos Energy itself. Shadow's essentially a living and breathing Chaos Emerald himself.

That's why I'm fine with either Shadow using Chaos Control with or without an Emerald, but I do wish that SEGA could at least explain that Shadow uses an Emerald to increase the range and potency of Chaos Control.
 
Not just created, his tissue and DNA were grafted using Chaos Energy itself. Shadow's essentially a living and breathing Chaos Emerald himself.

That's why I'm fine with either Shadow using Chaos Control with or without an Emerald, but I do wish that SEGA could at least explain that Shadow uses an Emerald to increase the range and potency of Chaos Control.
And Doom is just HIM and uses Chaos Control & more without all that.

Like how Shadow teleported Silver several meters away with his own power in Rivals 1 & in the sequel he admits he needed an emerald for cross dimensional teleportation.
 
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Not just created, his tissue and DNA were grafted using Chaos Energy itself. Shadow's essentially a living and breathing Chaos Emerald himself.

That's why I'm fine with either Shadow using Chaos Control with or without an Emerald, but I do wish that SEGA could at least explain that Shadow uses an Emerald to increase the range and potency of Chaos Control.
Right now, it seems as though Sonic Team thinks that Chaos Control is just time manipulation. So in that sense, it's like he can only do it with a Chaos Emerald

However, there are applications of Chaos Control that have been used without a Chaos Emerald in the past

When you consider all that, Shadow can use Chaos Control without an emerald. But he needs one for wide-scale time manipulation
 
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My metallic boy has arrived in the movie universe and shows up in the post credits scene....**** YEAH, METAL SONIC IS HERE!
 
Question for everyone: Do you like Shadow being able to use Chaos Control only with an Emerald or do you like him being able to just use Chaos Powers without one.

Honestly, I prefer the latter but, of course, in varying degrees. A Chaos Emerald is said to be an amplifier for Black Doom's powers, so I think it'd be cool if Shadow's just able to use stuff like Chaos Control, Blast, Spear, etc etc without needing an Emerald but getting one enhances his capability with them across the board. I say all of this primarily because of the agenda Sega is pushing these days with Shadow's powers.
Be able to use Chaos Control it in base but be noticably taxing with an Emerald amplifying the range & potency whilst mitigating the tiring effects.

Hold on, I thought he could Spear & Blast without an Emerald
 
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