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I really want to see the Time Stones used for something.
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I'd very much as like to see Scourge use the Super Emerald to use his own Ultra Form, or seeing what the Moebian equivalent of it via Anarchy Beryl (or, and I know this is outside parameters, Super [Anarchy] Beryl). Similarly, I think Metal harnessing multiple jewels at once would be perfect. For example, I think Metal capitalizing on his ability to copy and utilize the artifacts of the verse would be quite interesting. Whether this be the Sol Emeralds, the Phantom Ruby (a la Overclocked), or things like that. Especially since his whole thing is constant, hyper-evolution. So seeing him well...stagnate...is kinda sucky, and I think it'd be great if we were shown more of it. And even better if it's more directly focused on in ways that subvert what we've come to expect. (For example, an idea I've had for some time in regards to this is, when Metal became Master Overlord, he should've stayed small. This would highlight how he has adapted to having a large metallic dragon body and it's flaws and become even more dangerous and threatening.)Sonic Question Time: If you had to give a Sonic character a special transformation using a different (set of) object(s), which would it be? Bonus points if you don't use Sonic. (Note: This is different from my other question regarding making a special transformation for a cast member. You have to use an already-established artifact i.e. Warp Topaz, Phantom Ruby,)
I'd like to see Amy use the Sol Emeralds to transform; I feel her "fiery personality" motif can be taken to a literal extreme and still feel natural. Even funnier if they subverse that idiotic "Only male hedgehogs can go Super" claim with "Only females can transform using the Sol Emeralds" lolol.
We almost had it. Archie was doing something, and theeennnnnnn....Well, it starts with a Ken and ends in Penders.I really want to see the Time Stones used for something.
Sonic Question Time: If you had to give a Sonic character a special transformation using a different (set of) object(s), which would it be? Bonus points if you don't use Sonic. (Note: This is different from my other question regarding making a special transformation for a cast member. You have to use an already-established artifact i.e. Warp Topaz, Phantom Ruby,)
I'd like to see Amy use the Sol Emeralds to transform; I feel her "fiery personality" motif can be taken to a literal extreme and still feel natural. Even funnier if they subverse that idiotic "Only male hedgehogs can go Super" claim with "Only females can transform using the Sol Emeralds" lolol.
We almost had it. Archie was doing something, and theeennnnnnn....Well, it starts with a Ken and ends in Penders.
I don't know if this is anything, but Eggman can "hide" the "spaces". Every space becomes a question mark.
HahaI 100% think that Time Stone Silver's super form should be named Still Silver.
Nice rant, don’t care.You call 99% of Sonic scaling here to be dumb and bunkers. Yet you don't even know why the emeralds vary in power or what the source for it is despite the fact that it's part of the 1% you apparantly agree with. You "guess" that this info comes from IDW and that it's because the power of a Super form depends on the level of the threat they're facing. In actuality, we originally learned this info in SA1, with IDW only acting as support, and the mechanics of the variable tier are already throughly explained here, so you have no reason to even speculate in the first place. I would tell you to make a CRT if you really think our Sonic scaling is so stupid, but you've already shown yourself to be uninformed on the topic, so I'll honestly be very surprised if it turns out not to be a waste of everyone's time.
Why thank you...Man, that question inspired some awesome answers. Cool ideas, guys!
I'm sorry to break topic, but, this makes me think of a wasp Sonic design. That could be extremely cool to see. I like seeing people with insect sonas, and such, so seeing how one could adapt insects into a still anthro but Sonic-ish style would be interesting.hive.
Anthro wasps would be demented.
Tch, if only we were a hive.
You just opened a can of wor- I mean wasps (imagine Anthro worm tho?).Anthro wasps would be demented.
Wasn't there a wasp villain in Sonic the Comic?Charmy Bee is already crazy enough as it is, imagine a wasp villain in the Sonic franchise
Metal as well. Really just those two in general…Somewhere between Genius and Extraordinary Genius (although Emerl is carrying like 90% of that)
If the Infinite information part of Supergenius remains.....then i think Supergenius is possibleSomewhere between Genius and Extraordinary Genius (although Emerl is carrying like 90% of that)
Probably remain in EGEstablishing combat skill requirements
Lonkitt's Suggestion on page 5 is currently what the goal is I will preface this thread by saying two things: what I write here is not final, and can be argued with, disagreed with, etc. Before this can go live, at least a one example must be listed for all ratings. Animalistic: With only...vsbattles.com
Where do you think Sonic would fall under this new justifications?(assuming they stay as they are)
Which ones?also how come people forget the crack shit insane skill statements from Frontiers that i added to Modern Sonic? Come on, i am proud of them
I think there might be something that could warrant Emerl being a Supergenius Combatant under that new rating as well, but I'm not too knowledgeable on the Gizoid's combat statementsIg he's talking about the Ancients being amazed from Sonic fighting & saying he had infinite potential or sth
Sage, the miss "i have all your biological data, records of past battles, personal information, personality, etc about you" and that can analise literal infinite information in Cyberspace and simulate millions of possibilities in a short time, being consistently unable to predict Sonic at all in regardings to fightingWhich ones?
"All that is to learn about fighting mastered" + Supercomputer exploding trying to analise him fighting data + "i can create infinite ammount of fighting styles, each "unique""I think there might be something that could warrant Emerl being a Supergenius Combatant under that new rating as well, but I'm not too knowledgeable on the Gizoid's combat statements
Oh right, I kinda blocked out that Cyber Space has what's essentially a 5-D "amount" of data/information. You know, it isn't enough to qualify for a Resistance to Information Analysis (because she literally did analyze him lol) but it does make me wonder if it's some limited resistance instead.Sage, the miss "i have all your biological data, records of past battles, personal information, personality, etc about you" and that can analyze literal infinite information in Cyberspace and simulate millions of possibilities in a short time, being consistently unable to predict Sonic at all in regardings to fighting
Pffft hahahaha I legit always forget about Emerl f$#king blowing up a supercomputer with his fighting data. That's some shonen-level shit right there"All that is to learn about fighting mastered" + Supercomputer exploding trying to analyze him fighting data + "i can create infinite amount of fighting styles, each "unique""
I only skimmed the thread (and skipped page 2) but afaik it doesn't have much staff input so far. We'll see if this actually gets acceptedThe last part is why i say "Supergenius" would be possible given the.....standard in the OP of that thread
It isn't resistance, Sonic is just skilled like that, Final Horizon exemplifies this more with the Ancients dialogueOh right, I kinda blocked out that Cyber Space has what's essentially a 5-D "amount" of data/information. You know, it isn't enough to qualify for a Resistance to Information Analysis (because she literally did analyze him lol) but it does make me wonder if it's some limited resistance instead.
Yep........Infinite fighting styles via combining finite ones be like:Pffft hahahaha I legit always forget about Emerl f$#king blowing up a supercomputer with his fighting data. That's some shonen-level shit right there
Yeah, it is just that.....the thought of Sonic and Eggman sharing the same Inteligemce rating sounds funny to me lolI only skimmed the thread (and skipped page 2) but afaik it doesn't have much staff input so far. We'll see if this actually gets accepted
Nope, literally infinite, verbatim said soIirc it only says he can make potentially endless amounts of fighting styles by combining the data he already has in different ways,
That is......literally what Ultimate Emerl doeshe doesn’t actually use infinite fighting styles at a time.
He does since he learned "literally everything he could" about combat, so all that has developted in those 4000 years? HisEmerl doesn’t actually have 4000 years of combat data either, he has data from 4000 years ago and data from today, and then a 4000 year gap of being shut off.
Infinite via combos of other moves, which he doesn’t use all at once.Nope, literally infinite, verbatim said so
No, he just uses the ultimate versions of every skill type in the game (and by ultimate I mean the specific skill type of ultimate not, perfected)That is......literally what Ultimate Emerl does
All he did was scan some G.U.N. weapons, he learned everything he could about that subtype.He does since he learned "literally everything he could" about combat, so all that has developted in those 4000 years? His
.......you do know that you can't use infinite ammounts of stuff at once right? It is logically impossibleInfinite via combos of other moves, which he doesn’t use all at once.
Which is a combination of all fightinf techniques he learned, visually as such, yesNo, he just uses the ultimate versions of every skill type in the game
Again, why dowmplaying for no reason?(and by ultimate I mean the specific skill type of ultimate not, perfected)
Nope, verbatim said "learned literally all he could" he learned everything there was to learn, there isn't any way to work arround thatAll he did was scan some G.U.N. weapons, he learned everything he could about that subtype.
It’s also logically impossible to have infinite speed at all, yet here we are........you do know that you can't use infinite ammounts of stuff at once right? It is logically impossible
Also.......it is verbatim said "fighting styles" so.....not just moves
You are trying to dowmplay him for no reason
No it isn’t? I don’t see Emerl dropping bat bombs or Chao tornados as Ultimate.Which is a combination of all fightinf techniques he learned, visually as such, yes
All it could in its sheltered space on the Ark, which isn’t confirmed to be all combat styles in the modern age ever.Nope, verbatim said "learned literally all he could" he learned everything there was to learn, there isn't any way to work arround that
i think you don't understand what one means by "logical", unless you have multiple clones, you will ALWAYS be using 1 fighting style, even if you blend numerous into 1, you will ONLY be using this new blended 1, there is no way to use "infinite" different punches at once, you have to choose 1 kind of punch to trowIt’s also logically impossible to have infinite speed at all, yet here we are.
............you do know i said he copied every other fighting style there is right? so this statement would inlcuded that as well“Emerl is able to combine the collected technique chips, allowing to create infinite styles”. It is just combining the casts’ moves together to make fighting styles.
him knocback move is Chaos's, him basic combo has Rouges' kick anc Knuckle's spirit summoning rock trow, his air movement is Sonic's, etcNo it isn’t? I don’t see Emerl dropping bat bombs or Chao tornados as Ultimate.
he was sent to Earth, to the military as a way to buy time for project Shadow, so you are just wrongAll it could in its sheltered space on the Ark
again, he went berserk, which Gerald explicitly says that it happens when the gizoid "learns all it could" aka all combat styles in the modern age/all about combatwhich isn’t confirmed to be all combat styles in the modern age ever.
Except the statement is specifically referring to the technique chips of the main cast, not the unnamed fighting styles.............you do know i said he copied every other fighting style there is right? so this statement would inlcuded that as well
Yes, he can make a potential infinite amount of fighting styles if he experimented with them, had enough time to make infinite styles, but it’s not shown he did.plus if it doesn't..........it is just more impressive as would be able to create infinite unique fighting styles from a very limited pool, so
Fair point.him knocback move is Chaos's, him basic combo has Rouges' kick anc Knuckle's spirit summoning rock trow, his air movement is Sonic's, etc
like, it is very clear what it is being depicted
But it also says he went berserk on the Ark, so his training must have primarily been on the Ark.he was sent to Earth, to the military as a way to buy time for project Shadow, so you are just wrong
Well I mean, clearly it didn’t go berserk because it knew literally every fighting style. Sonic didn’t learn Linshao Kung fu until Unleashed, despite the practitioner living at least during the Battle era, and Sonic ended up beating Emerl who would supposedly have known that fighting style.again, he went berserk, which Gerald explicitly says that it happens when the gizoid "learns all it could" aka all combat styles in the modern age/all about combat
I'm not fully agreeing with either you or Omega atm, but this argument is nothing. You don't need to know a specific martial art to beat someone who does.Sonic didn’t learn Linshao Kung fu until Unleashed, despite the practitioner living at least during the Battle era, and Sonic ended up beating Emerl who would supposedly have known that fighting style.