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Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

Executor_N0 said:
If Special Stage ends up winning, I wonder if we'll know more about the lore of it... I hope it wins, but people might make Station Square win just for the memes.

The fact it's an "infinite super dimension" makes me think it could be Low 2-C
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It might be a kind of superspace

超空間 (chō kūkan) is superspace

While 超異空間 (chōi kūkan) is super-other space.

It could be 4D+ and higher.
 
Speaking of Archie Sonic, I don't recall if anyone's asked this before but I'll say this anyway: Is there a reason behind why Pre Genesis and Post Genesis Sonic have two different profiles?

Because, having read the Worlds Collide crossover between Sonic and Mega Man and most of the Post Genesis run at this moment in time, I find it strange that we give Sonic a Post Genesis profile when in the comic itself he and Eggman were the only ones completely unaffected by the Super Genesis Wave and are fundamentally the same characters history and abilities wise. Hell for one of Pre Genesis Sonic's justifications for 4th wall awareness it states this "Can tell when a new continuity is coming, with his 4th Wall-self surviving the transition and remaining as the same character."

So either I'm missing some key context when it comes to this whole ordeal or, personally, I think the Pre Genesis and Post Genesis profiles need to be merged together for Sonic specifically
 
JJSliderman said:
I think it’s because of the absence of the Chaos Force, Sonic doesn’t have as many abilities.
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I guess that makes sense, but Pre Genesis and Post Genesis Super Sonic have the exact same hax and resistances between each other so either some revisions need to be put into place or just merge the profiles together if they're considered the same character at the end of the day
 
Haven't played Sonic Rivals 2 myself, but isn't Ifrit's best feat in that game being that he instantly scorched the entire surface of a planet in another dimension and was going to do the same to Sonic's world if Eggman Nega had been able to cross it over? Now mind you those could be casual feats for Ifrit, but outside of scaling to Sonic and Shadow I don't see how it could be referring to world when its best feats shown were planetary.
 
The_Unknown_Warrior1 said:
Haven't played Sonic Rivals 2 myself, but isn't Ifrit's best feat in that game being that he instantly scorched the entire surface of a planet in another dimension and was going to do the same to Sonic's world if Eggman Nega had been able to cross it over? Now mind you those could be casual feats for Ifrit, but outside of scaling to Sonic and Shadow I don't see how it could be referring to world when its best feats shown were planetary.
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It mentioned the world we just don’t know what they mean by “world”. If we take it at a highball it could mean universe which would mean Ifrit can destroy a universe and a universe in Sonic is capable of handling multiple possibilities and dreams (maginaryworld for instance) so he could be multiversal and up but if we assume that they meant planet then it doesn’t really benefit the scaling at all.
 
Nah Ifrit is High 6-A for scorching the world,effectively destroying it. Anything else is an assumption. Aside from it scaling to Sonic
 
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I was told to post this scaling here by someone

2:02 of has Ifrit being called all powerful

At 4:10 of it’s stated Ifrit holds the power of destruction and the power to bind one’s soul.

At 5:34 of it’s implied Ifrit destroyed the entire planet.

7:36 of has the world being implied to be a dimension/universe

4:27 of has Silver implying Ifrit would destroy their worlds and further implied in 5:08 of https://youtu.be/IA-Jhbv0jhE?si=5PcGskdfr7alE58C as well as 6:43 of https://youtu.be/IA-Jhbv0jhE?si=5PcGskdfr7alE58C and 6:59 of https://youtu.be/IA-Jhbv0jhE?si=5PcGskdfr7alE58C

At 7:34 of https://youtu.be/IA-Jhbv0jhE?si=5PcGskdfr7alE58C it’s stated Ifrit can become invincible by consuming Chao.

The Ifrit’s dimension is stated to be a world of flames and destruction implying that world = dimension in this context at 11:30 of https://youtu.be/IA-Jhbv0jhE?si=5PcGskdfr7alE58C to 12:21 of https://youtu.be/IA-Jhbv0jhE?si=5PcGskdfr7alE58C

41:33 of https://www.youtube.com/live/pAN4ZsFYyvk?si=TmZDVhQof8zzxdLa has world being synonymous with dimension in Sonic Rush Adventure.
 
I suppose those statements do imply at least Universal power, especially since Ifrit already scales to Sonic and Shadow, but holy crap these videos should be bullet pointed and separated so it doesn't all clutter together and is easy to understand.

Formatting aside, yeah I think these statements should be suitable enough supplementary evidence for Universal Ifrit
 
Metal Sonic mentions higher dimensions

sonic.sega.jp

ソニック & メタルソニック

誰もいないDr.エッグマンの秘密研究所......起動とともにデータベースに接続したそのロボットは、今の状況を把握してこう評価しました。 [[ この状況は
sonic.sega.jp


“自分はまだより高い次元に達することができる。その次元で優劣をつけるべき相手がいる......”

A bunch of polytopes appeared in Sonic Superstars







 
ThatBusyDude said:
Metal Sonic mentions higher dimensions

sonic.sega.jp

ソニック & メタルソニック

誰もいないDr.エッグマンの秘密研究所......起動とともにデータベースに接続したそのロボットは、今の状況を把握してこう評価しました。 [[ この状況は
sonic.sega.jp


“自分はまだより高い次元に達することができる。その次元で優劣をつけるべき相手がいる......”

A bunch of polytopes appeared in Sonic Superstars







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and what are they?
 
Alexander said:
and what are they?
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Well I had no idea what the second part referred to

but I looked it up and I got something

In elementary geometry, a polytope is a geometric object with flat sides. Polytopes are the generalization of three-dimensional polyhedra to any number of dimensions. Polytopes may exist in any general number of dimensions n as an n-dimensional polytope or n-polytope. according to this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytope

So what I think the second part is getting at is that polytopes are proof of higher dimensions existing in Sonic's world.
 
The_Unknown_Warrior1 said:
I suppose those statements do imply at least Universal power, especially since Ifrit already scales to Sonic and Shadow, but holy crap these videos should be bullet pointed and separated so it doesn't all clutter together and is easy to understand.

Formatting aside, yeah I think these statements should be suitable enough supplementary evidence for Universal Ifrit
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The guy already gave time stamps all we need to do is link it to the video.

Why are you so worried about formatting? Proof is proof bro.
 
ThatBusyDude said:
Well I had no idea what the second part referred to

but I looked it up and I got something

In elementary geometry, a polytope is a geometric object with flat sides. Polytopes are the generalization of three-dimensional polyhedra to any number of dimensions. Polytopes may exist in any general number of dimensions n as an n-dimensional polytope or n-polytope. according to this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytope

So what I think the second part is getting at is that polytopes are proof of higher dimensions existing in Sonic's world.
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yeah,if you know what shape they have in the first place
 
ThatBusyDude said:
The guy already gave time stamps all we need to do is link it to the video.

Why are you so worried about formatting? Proof is proof bro.
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I guess it's a personal thing for me, I'm usually pretty obsessed with formatting my arguments and keeping it clean you could say. I'm not denying the proof, I agree with it, but I would personally trim the fat a little and make it a tad more simple you know?

Then again this could be the autism inside me speaking so I could be spewing bullshit so let's just say I usually format things differently then others
 
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