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Yeah so, they can’t just do that again without time travel, right? The towers are shut down and I don’t think it was indicated Sage can reactivate them
 
It's this. Sage and the Titans didn't just put them into cyberspace but made them unable to leave unless you break the seals (Kill the Titans and shut the towers) and all that jazz
I wonder if it was something to do with the forcefield that Tails detected when he first approached Starfall Islands.
 
Ian Flynn revealed on today's Bumblekast that he's repeatedly pitched the idea where Sonic and Blaze find themselves needing to use each other's Emeralds, resulting in "Brilliant Blaze" and "Scorching Sonic" (if you wanna hear it in greater detail, here's a timestamp). I quote from Flynn, "They won't get rid of me yet. I'll find an opportunity"
 
Ian Flynn revealed on today's Bumblekast that he's repeatedly pitched the idea where Sonic and Blaze find themselves needing to use each other's Emeralds, resulting in "Brilliant Blaze" and "Scorching Sonic" (if you wanna hear it in greater detail, here's a timestamp). I quote from Flynn, "They won't get rid of me yet. I'll find an opportunity"
so he is trying to make it really,now fanfics are canon
 
Yeah so, they can’t just do that again without time travel, right? The towers are shut down and I don’t think it was indicated Sage can reactivate them
That applies to lots of things in this series, and somewhat irrelevant when talking about versus matches.
 
Well it seems like the towers were the only thing keeping characters with dimensional travel inside, so unless you ignore story it does kinda take the layered BFR aspect away.
 
It was the Titans plus Towers, and we already "ignore" story for most versus matches. There's several characters who are dead and items that were destroyed that we still use in versus matches. Especially since Sage's page is only her Frontiers appearance thus far.
 
Sure but most of those are tied to specific characters, rather than the environment of their worlds, which the layered BFR is dependent on the latter in this case.
 
if we were to include sonic's items as part of his arsenal, we would have to include time warp signs from sonic cd,but they don't do any attacking stuff,they only allow time travel(which is a game mechanic in my opinion)
 
Sure but most of those are tied to specific characters, rather than the environment of their worlds, which the layered BFR is dependent on the latter in this case.
The only one who uses this sealing is Frontiers!Sage so it literally doesn't matter. Obviously post Frontiers Sage won't have access to it since she won't even be in Cyberspace but we haven't seen her yet (outside of a cameo in the VN(
 
If Super Sonic can hit people across time with his casual punches post-2006, why didn't he do so against The End?
 
great, and I keep wondering how wally could have won, I mean, he beat archie sonic for certain things, but with game sonic it was completely different, he had to fight with hax lord.
 
The titans do, The End doesn't.



In a recent vs thread, Hyper Sonic had the wincon of hitting someone across all time with normal punches.
Would the enemy be hard to otherwise beat? If so, then yeah, I imagine Super Sonic would start taking whatever needs necessary. If it's fodder, he has no reason to nuke them across all of time.
 
Would the enemy be hard to otherwise beat? If so, then yeah, I imagine Super Sonic would start taking whatever needs necessary. If it's fodder, he has no reason to nuke them across all of time.
The End wasn't fodder though. Sonic even said he needed Supreme's help, and Sage said that she predicted no chance for Sonic to win without her help.

TE literally says he's above Solaris, which is apparently a valid feat on his profile.
 
How does type 4 stop temporal AOE?
Type 4 means different system of cause and effect, temporal AOE only works because of temporal cause and effect

The titans do, The End doesn't.
Well he should

Would the enemy be hard to otherwise beat? If so, then yeah, I imagine Super Sonic would start taking whatever needs necessary. If it's fodder, he has no reason to nuke them across all of time.
Do we even know if he can deactivate that?
 
The End wasn't fodder though. Sonic even said he needed Supreme's help, and Sage said that she predicted no chance for Sonic to win without her help.

TE literally says he's above Solaris, which is apparently a valid feat on his profile.
I mean, if you want an out of universe explanation, Sonic Team prolly doesn't remember the power at nor. Tho they also prolly woulda thought using that kinda hax on a concept wouldn't do anything noteworthy.
 
also it was indirectly confirmed that shard was erasedvia a comment (likely other characters like sally and sonic's dad), I wish they used them atleast but hey, atleast shard's color scheme is used by a canon character.
 
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