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Unleashed, Shadow nearly dying from exhaustion in SA2.
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This didn't happen. Shadow couldn't handle the power of his super form and was burning out. That's what's actually stated.Shadow nearly dying from exhaustion in SA2.
Unleashed
sonic was left on his knees prior to that when dark gaia stole his energyshow us where does super sonic gets tired when his base has not been severely affected in some way prior
eggman never drained their energy, he inverted their polarity and used the negative energy of the emeralds, which makes them go grey and lose power, it is never mentioned that they went grey because they had no energyMeh, I still think the mechanic of Chaos Emeralds having infinite energy reserves is flawed by virtue of their total energy being drained several times, unless Eggman is capable of casually inventing machines that can drain infinite amounts of energy.
sonic wouldn't be able to use them since they went inert, have you read what i said? they lost their power and couldn't be used, as shown in adventure 1 they still had energy in them even in that stateIf they had energy left
adventure was a specific situation, what makes you think sonic could have done that again by himself?Sonic could have gone Super immediately and finished the adventure in 2 minutes, just like Adventure 1.
they still had energy, they simply lost their power after the negative energy was used, that is all, you keep using the word "drained" here even tho that is never said to be what happened to them, not in adventure 1, not in unleashed and not in rush, they simply lost their power due to being used with negative purposesBecause that also happened in Rush, the Sol Emeralds were drained
yeah, because they didn't got drained of their energy, they simply went inertand turned grey but could still be used for transforming.
power = strenght and abilities(basically how you say "super powers") energy = well, energy reservesWhat is the difference between drained and lost power, sounds semantic.
power as in "super power" their abilities, also again you saying that their chaos energy was "drained" even tho that is not said to be what happened at all in the examplesBut the Emeralds’ powers come from their supply of Chaos Energy, wouldn’t draining that energy be equivalent to robbing them of power?
as the manual said all that he did was "invert their polarity", that is the explanation given, it is not said that he "drained them"Eggman knocked Sonic out of his super form, used the Chaos Emeralds’ power to awaken Dark Gaia, and afterwards the Emeralds fell to the ground useless. It doesn’t take a genius to read between the lines.
It doesn’t take a genius to read between the lines.
Sadly the writer was interviewed and confirmed there's nothing on that level, he is just writing an IDW story and that is all.It's Sonic the Comic's 30th anniversary today (and Sonic the Comic Online's 20th)! Crazy to think how old this franchise and it's branches (and us) are getting.
Makes me wonder whether that has something to do with what's cooking in the 900th Adventure one-shot, and why a StC writer is apart of it...
Sadly the writer was interviewed and confirmed there's nothing on that level, he is just writing an IDW story and that is all.
The manual also says the Emeralds were “spent”, which is another way of saying their energy was used up.as the manual said all that he did was "invert their polarity", that is the explanation given, it is not said that he "drained them"
spent doesn't mean "drained off" it simply means that they were used and now can't be used again, nothing moreThe manual also says the Emeralds were “spent”, which is another way of saying their energy was used up.
That is not what it has to mean, the energy was used and now it can't be used due to how it was used, think of it like a light bulb that burned, the energy is still going to it, it just doesn't work anymoreYeah so, the energy from the Chaos Emeralds was used, and now cannot be used again, meaning there is no energy left to use.
I guess, but I think the intent, considering Eggman actively drew the energy out of the Emeralds and into his canon, was that he was absorbing the energy.That is not what it has to mean, the energy was used and now it can't be used due to how it was used, think of it like a light bulb that burned, the energy is still going to it, it just doesn't work anymore
They have been stated to have infinite energy multiple times, so when one interpretation does not contradict the official information i think we are better off going with itI guess, but I think the intent, considering Eggman actively drew the energy out of the Emeralds and into his canon, was that he was absorbing the energy.
But eh, I guess it’s up to interpretation.
I am saying that they go inert after someone uses a large part of their negative energySo what, you’re saying Eggman just turned off the Emeralds?
Because sonic used his own thoughts/emotion/bonds to produce positive energy and re awaken themThen how come they could still be used after PC absorbed a large part of their negative energy?
I just don’t buy the CE themselves having infinite stocks of energy. Just that their finite energy can reach infinite power.
Experience does not influence anything in using super forms, because silver literally has an ass of experience with super forms, and even so, he used it correctly and did not detransform while fighting against solaris.I think the energy Super uses correlates with experience one has with Chaos Energy generally. Would explain why Super Shadow ran out when Super Sonic didn't despite them doing the same things (Fighting Bio Lizard, and using Chaos Control). With experience tho, they can last at least days (As shown in Advance and Frontiers).
Silver didn't last days like Super Sonic tho. You could just argue the fight wasn't as exhausting or that it didn't last as long as with Shadow. Nor did Silver use Chaos Control like Shadow did. He just used enhanced Psychokinesis attacks.Experience does not influence anything in using super forms, because silver literally has an ass of experience with super forms, and even so, he used it correctly and did not detransform while fighting against solaris.
also it was never said to be a factor, again, it's a headcanon about the experience (similar to knuckles removing sonic's super form through manipulating chaos energy)
Them having limitless energy reserves is also contradicted, whereas them having infinite power is not.that doesn't make sense, it was never said that's how they work
Yes, but you invent a headcanon to try to justify a contradiction, that doesn't make it more valid. it would be easier to accept that sonic planets has infinite energy.Them having limitless energy reserves is also contradicted, whereas them having infinite power is not.