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well, and then I have people saying that tails confirming the multiverse in sonic, it's not valid because it was never said in a game and tails has no knowledge of cosmology.
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Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers
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ShakeResounding
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Ridiculous. Tails is smarter than all our geniuses combined.
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and people forgot about it,or,they just keep saying ''it does not mean anything''
and the people who say that,are the same people who say that the goku is multiversal thanks to multipliers
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It’s not headcanon to say the Emeralds didn’t work and were useless after the cannon drained their energy, because that’s what happened, and why they needed to be restored at Gaia temples. The logical explanation is that the temples restored the energy, hence why they regained their color. The other instances where the Emeralds were drained, Rush, can also be explained as them being charged with energy to restore them
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Didn't you conceded on the "the emeralds were not drained but just went inert since this is what happens when people use their with negative energy"?
As shown in adventure 1, even while grey the emeralds still have their energy, so it can't be that
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A chaos emerald being "drained" due to Time Eater's erasure antics was still able to repel against it when the Eater tried grabbing it (I wonder why).
When Sonic restored the emerald it simply glowed and moved on its own I guess.
They still have energy in them though.
When Sonic restored the emerald it simply glowed and moved on its own I guess.
They still have energy in them though.
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I mean, I don't think Time Eater even drained them tho. Pretty sure he just did his erasure hax on them. But they'd still have to have energy in them to repel him (Plus they were also floating before their color was restored).
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now that i think about it, time eater had a kind of hard time erasing them, should the emeralds gain a resistance to EE?
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The Emerald was colorless though, I think it was frozen.
I think the EE was what Time Eater was trying to do but it didn't completely erase the Emerald (Eggman would've wanted the emeralds gone or else Sonic might use them against his new machine, which he ultimately did)
And I guess that scene was the Eater trying again, this time more physical as it tried getting close, but the Emerald simply blasted it away.
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Yeah, that wasn’t the case with Unleashed where the Emeralds just did nothing, it was clearly not just inert there.
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Yeah, it's why I brought up the EE tho. Cuz the EE caused everyone else to lose their color in the same way. AKA turned white. I don't think they were drained at all. When that happens, they become colorless yes, but they don't become white. They go gray (or translucent, whatever you interpret it as). But yeah, it seems they didn't fully erase it given its energy still pushed Time Eater away.
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Dark Gaia is an interesting case since his energy might be connected to Chaos Energy, since Light Gaia used Emeralds using his thoughts and the Emeralds have a connection with the Planet. Dark Gaia is just the opposite of Light Gaia on the same level.
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https://vsbattles.com/threads/mario-and-sonic-brawl-for-the-millionth-time.154416/
mario vs sonic thread that is maybe fair
mario vs sonic thread that is maybe fair
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Sonic is gonna be downgraded pretty soon, a lot of the multipliers on his page are going away.
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yes they were, sonic just didn't knew how to reactivate them by himself at that time
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no matter, his AD will make him close the gap in no time anyway
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And yet he knew how to do it years earlier.
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like shake said earlier, inconsistency
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ShakeResounding
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Ironically, Max Level heroes ended up becoming stronger as a result because of needing to default to the stated 2x multiplier in IDW lol
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I didn’t know PCs had a stated value, that’s good.
So them, Phantom Rush; and maybe the 4x Frontiers boost; probably not enough to get to Galaxy level on its own but still good.
So them, Phantom Rush; and maybe the 4x Frontiers boost; probably not enough to get to Galaxy level on its own but still good.
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It's from IDW. Each power core is a 2x boost as stated by Starline basically. Basically an 8x amp now instead of whatever it was before. Don't blame you for not seeing it.
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8x is when they are stacked (Can't you only have 3 on at a time?)
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Yeah.
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Ig as long as it doesn't require exploits/cheats to equip more than three, it'd be fine.
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In Archie, you get a boost when leaving Super, I believe. But Generations, IDW, and I think even 06 show that someone is effectively brought back to peak condition when going Super. Sonic was extremely worn out and tired in the Metal Virus arc, but when he went Super, he felt fine, for example.
I do agree with the emeralds having unlimited energy, but I just don't agree with Super forms having unlimited stamina. Out of curiosity, though, where does that idea come from?
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The idea of super forms having unlimited energy comes from the Chaos Emeralds having unlimited power.
MysticMania
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Oh, my bad. I was asking about the unlimited stamina.
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It's the same reason
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@JJSliderman @LaserPrecision should I create that Tier 2 Arabian nights revision thread or should I wait? I think there's enough evidence to make it.
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Sure!
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Isn't arabian nights already a tier 2 place?
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Is the guy's recent Sonic revision thread (the one with 2-C and up Infinite) done with? I don't want my potential thread to take attention away from that.
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I think he mean tier 2-C/2-B AN
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That will take a while, i recomend waiting for the tier 2 base sonic revision to come before making your thread
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Well I want it higher into 2-C.
Basically my argument was going to be that
1. The Arabian nights is infinite in size since it encompasses infinite realms like the night palace and astral plane.
2. The Arabian nights are called worlds of adventures by Sonic.
3. People who've worked on the game and Sonic worldview supervisors like Eitaro Toyoda agree that the stories are each their own world (universe)
(I was going to explain the reason why the stories were connected in Secret Rings was because the World Rings bound them together throughout the story)
4. According to some official material the Arabian nights are filled with dreams, magic and adventures (and dreams are worlds (universes) in Sonic)
Therefore the Arabian nights should be 2-C to possibly 2-B. It's not full proof but I think it's worth a try.
I was gonna check with everyone and review the arguments before I tried it.
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