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They already could before tbf. Sonic can jump tiers, so as long as they were beneath his 4-A key, he could've jumped in power to fight them.
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Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers
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Oliver_de_jesus
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I don't mean Sonic himself, I mean Sonic as the universe
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Oh. Tbf, I think the same could be said for most of the verse. They do all keep up with Sonic after all.
Oliver_de_jesus
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Maybe make Classic Sonic full equip vs MvC Dante?
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Don't know much about MvC Dante aside from AP value, but it's possible.
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I am still shocked that moving a continent is tier 4 lmao
Dust_Collector
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God dammit we have tier 5 Zelda cooking and that was in the same range as Sonic, had some baller matches planned but now you got a bigger planet and bumped them up high end 5-A to low end tier 4
ShakeResounding
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Crazy part is I was looking at the Tears of the Kingdom thread and wondered if anybody was gonna try a match-up with Sonic lol. Probably would've been hella fun, too.
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Ugh pixel scaling.
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Oliver_de_jesus
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Now that I remember, Sonic did not defeat an Eggman Robot powered by earth energy? I think it was in Lost World, could that mean something if we consider that earth energy is part of Gaia´s twins
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oh really? to what?
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What size?
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Not size, just the power output of destroying the Planet
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I shouldn't say or else I'll make enemies lmao
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TELL ME!
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It's terrifying how strong The End is, both in the boss fight (story-wise) and its true form.
It can easily one-shot Super Sonic and Supreme in one fell swoop in its weakened state, and in its prime it stomped 4 Titans who each were amped by a Chaos Emerald (keep in mind these things were keeping up with Super Sonic without the Chaos Emeralds on their head).
Speaking of, since Shadow w/o limiters is losing his 12x multiplier, should I remove "The End's True Form vs Super Shadow w/o limiters" from their profiles?
It can easily one-shot Super Sonic and Supreme in one fell swoop in its weakened state, and in its prime it stomped 4 Titans who each were amped by a Chaos Emerald (keep in mind these things were keeping up with Super Sonic without the Chaos Emeralds on their head).
Speaking of, since Shadow w/o limiters is losing his 12x multiplier, should I remove "The End's True Form vs Super Shadow w/o limiters" from their profiles?
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I can't remember if we treat The End Super Sonic fought as weakened or not. But to say it one-shots feels dishonest. I think we're supposed to interpret it as wear and tear throughout the whole battle. Otherwise, we should treat the QTE when Sonic succeeds as Super Sonic one-shoting The End. Which also doesn't seem right at all.
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We do.
The common consensus on here, from what I can tell after asking around, is that he can one-shot SS.
Tbf, TE was weakened from the fighting and Sonic needed help from Supreme.
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Weird.
Really? The seems weird. Feels like treating the Titans as being able to one-shot Super because if you fail the QTE's, you get killed immediately against some of the Titans despite them having an entire fight up to those points.
Super Sonic was also weakened and tired from fighting. IIRC, in the QTE, Sonic tiredly starts to wobble. Tho I might be wrong, I haven't watched the fight in a couple months.
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I AM sure Sonic was just tired
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Well, The End is different because his casual attacks can one-shot.
Don't remember that.
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What's casual about it? It's not even an attack from The End that one-shots Sonic. It's Sonic's own momentum when going in for the killing blow.
Yeah, if I recall correctly, Sonic starts shaking around when flying towards The End for the kill as if dizzy or tired. He's very unsteady.
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That scaling seems contradictory. The End is so strong they can one-shot Super Sonic level characters with a casual attack, but a charged attack was somehow slowed by Super Sonic and stopped by two Super character's.
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The End by the, well, end of the fight was weakened from the fight.
Also, plot.
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I don't think it's plot tbh. I think it's just that they were actually comparable the whole time. Like, it makes sense for The End > Super Sonic. Just not to an extent they can one-shot. I feel that fixes the issue with the weird stuff that happens throughout the fight.
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Well, we need to wait that thread to pass in the first place before doing that
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Sonic had infinite stamina as super sonic tho
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Sonic has AD remember? He simply grew in power
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Unrelated but I’m not sure I agree with the Planet Wisp travel stuff being quadrillions c, the justification was that it was “dragged across the universe”, when that’s a vague term. Technically it could be dragged across the universe even if it was in another solar system, or another galaxy.
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Firstly, no it isn't.
Secondly, how are you gonna argue against the ratings when you're spewing arguments not even used on the profiles? Planet Wisp is said to be "across the universe", and Dodon Pa's rocket can travel there. Eggtech is obviously superior to which, as we see with an illustration of when Egg Shuttles were landing on the planet prior to Colors. There is nothing about dragging anything anywhere that's used as justifications on its own.
And like many of your other arguments stemmed from incredulity and random conservative guesses, you can't prove that. There's no way you want us to take it non-literally because... You think so?
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if it was across the galaxy,they will say across the galaxy
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The End is the only Sonic villain in the entire franchise, who considers himself more powerful than the rest of Sonic's enemies.
I mean, let me remind you, the rest didn't consider themselves superior to the rest of the villains, because they either couldn't speak, or they were focused on one goal,or they are just...Infinite(the character,not the...well)
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