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Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

DragonLord said:
Sonic Crackers (appeared only once), Crystal Ring (appeared only once),
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These are because they aren't really equipment Sonic gained in the game but always had it, so it's fine to be standard, the last two are optional that are wrongly in the standard key
 
Theuser789 said:
These are because they aren't really equipment Sonic gained in the game but always had it, so it's fine to be standard, the last two are optional that are wrongly in the standard key
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Guess I can see that for Sonic Crackers but the Crystal Ring you do need to collect in SA1 after getting the Light Speed Shoes, is it just kinda assumed you have it since in later games you can do the light speed dash instantly?
 
Sonic can seemingly pull an unlimited supply of Sonic Crackers out of hammerspace any time he performs the move, so ig that’s why it’s considered standard.
 
What a weird name, Sonic Crackers Not like they were gonna name a game that or anything
 
DragonLord said:
Guess I can see that for Sonic Crackers but the Crystal Ring you do need to collect in SA1 after getting the Light Speed Shoes, is it just kinda assumed you have it since in later games you can do the light speed dash instantly?
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Yes, this applies to most adventure equipment
 
Fair enough then, I’ve also noticed the the Muteki Monitor (which again is just invincibility’s Japanese name) seems to be listed under Frocejewels for some odd reason
 
Speaking of Monitors/Item Box actually, is every Item Box type he used put under standard?, i know there are games that do have Sonic hold-onto Item Boxes but does that account for all of them?
 
I got a interesting find today, according to this Guide you got by calling a Sega of America hotline, the Mecha Sonic in Sonic 2 has actually been called Robo Sonic way before Lego Sonic
 
May be a dumb question, but I was thinking, we have a calc for how much energy it would take for the Emerald to move a continent, is there one for how much The Death Egg would need to get out of orbit?
 
The only question would be how big is the Death Egg itself, it’s pretty inconsistent from what I remember, it looks huge In Forces but also isn’t bigger then Angel Island in Sonic 3... then again how big is Angel Island
 
Death Egg was destroyed in Sonic 3 & Knuckles so Eggman might have built a bigger Death Egg in Forces I guess
 
Gilad_Hyperstar said:
Death Egg was destroyed in Sonic 3 & Knuckles so Eggman might have built a bigger Death Egg in Forces I guess
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That was my thought too, though the only one we see directly blast up to orbit is the Classic one, unless it’s just assumed every other death egg is blasted too since we never see some galactic construction like in Star Wars

guess i may request it sometime with some possible pictures for size comparison
 
Alright, I sent the request, hopefully I gave good enough references for the Sonic 3 Death Egg
 
A person I talk to notified me about some Mephilies merch back in December 2020, it’s pretty interesting to me that since 2016 they seem to be opening up to this guy more and more
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(from the Leaked prototype script of Forces)
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I only really take particular interest now since apparently one of the lines in the code for the Sonic Teaser video is “Time Warp”
 
I don't think he will be in Rangers, but I am glad Sega is opening up the usage of the character
 
Mephiles was buried to the annals of time for over a decade but Zavok needed to be shoved into every game and become a recurring nuisance (even though nobody asked for him back). The genius of Sega
 
JED said:
Mephiles was buried to the annals of time for over a decade but Zavok needed to be shoved into every game and become a recurring nuisance (even though nobody asked for him back). The genius of Sega
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While I don’t really like Zavok, I would say that Mephiles being one used rarely is probably a good move, I don’t think he’s really a villain you can use all the time, he’s kinda a big deal that deserves to have big appearances

Zavok doesn’t really have that can makes for a easy evil side villain
 


It’s really odd for me to think of how many Shonen protags Sonic has crossovered with before Goku
 
DragonLord said:
While I don’t really like Zavok, I would say that Mephiles being one used rarely is probably a good move, I don’t think he’s really a villain you can use all the time, he’s kinda a big deal that deserves to have big appearances

Zavok doesn’t really have that can makes for a easy evil side villain
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I meant rarely used as in they don’t even ever reference him, not even in merch. Not saying he needs to be brought into more games story wise (even though he definitely deserves another shot), the fact they barely promote him and he is one of the more well liked villains, while always trying to shove in someone like Zavok who nobody likes and wants to get rid of was my point.
 
Apparently according to rumors the new music deal with Sonic 3 was sorted out in early 2020, something interesting to note that last year the Jetsons and there infamous Song Hard Times (which Ice Cap is based on for those don’t know) got a vinyl
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It’s literally just the background of Ice Cap
 
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I’ve heard the Japanese version of Lost World and Deadly Six is significantly better so I’ll leave that here


Not necessarily Sonic but I suppose this is important too
 
Since it came to my mind recently, what’s generally considered the Strongest Archie Sonic character?, I remember hearing Master Mogul
 
You know it interests me now after the Sonic vs Flash Thread, how far can Hyper Sonic go into Immeasurable taking everything into account?
 
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