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Guess we're gonna ignore the whole Dimitri using Chaos Knuckles power to allow Knuckles to become Enerjak who would scale to his speed of being in a realm outside linear time and space.Also Ultra Sonic warps and alters time by movement alone.Master Mogul's attacks can intercept and hit the Ancient Walkers who Super Sonic,Hyper Knuckles and Turbo Tails fought.The real cal howard said:Alongside what Foney was saying, Sonic also died to Mephiles in '06, which you guys are treating as happening just like it did in the game. Evidenced by the fact that '06 is the only reason Super forms are immeasurable.
Yeah. I brought up that the standards were flawed in the Discord thread. Discord the character, not the website. Not to mention that neither of us can name a single character that's immeasurable off of that alone.ShakeResounding said:No, what I'm doing is correcting your flawed argument. You say it isn't possible. The page says it is. This isn't even about Sonic's feat anymore as much as it is about the standards in general. I'm not ignorant, Cal.
No worries, my dude. It's just a debate. Fictional characters. Even if we wound up getting riled up at one another, we'd wind up putting it behind us in a matter of hours.ShakeResounding said:Okay wait, I seem like an asshole here. I apologize, more attitude and sass is escaping than what should be lol
No...The real cal howard said:@Oblivion. The Ancient Walkers were dying already and were heavily weakened. There's no reason for them to scale for the same reason Thor doesn't scale to peak Galactus. You don't scale to beings that are already on death's door when you fight them.
The cast never fight Chaos Knuckles, Aurora, or True Enerjak. They don't scale to Chaos Force beings, especially given it causes insane circular scaling (Super Sonic = Hyper Knuckles <<<<< Chaos Knuckles = Super Sonic).
Oblivion Lightning said:1st Tenure form allows him to scale.This reason should probably be added.His omnipresence comes from his 2nd tenure form.
The real cal howard said:@Oblivion. The Ancient Walkers were dying already and were heavily weakened. There's no reason for them to scale for the same reason Thor doesn't scale to peak Galactus. You don't scale to beings that are already on death's door when you fight them.
>No,Enerjak flat out said he couldn't destroy Super Sonic by any means.Super Sonic's aura was weakening Enerjak's control over Knuckles but only by a little bit it was neutralizing Enerjak's dark energy it's not just DR Finitivus'd hex because he neutralized Finitvus's hex immediately when becoming Super but Enerjak's resists his aura which is why it only slightly nulled Enerjak.Keep in mind Sonic was also not going all out because he didn't want to kill Knuckles in the first place.Super Sonic had the upper hand and was ultimately taunting and teasing Enerjak while Enerjak was enfuriated.This site accepts the two as comparable.The entire fight in the context has the two on equal grounds Enerjak being weakened and Super Sonic toying around and not wanting to kill Knuckles.If he really just wanted to kill Knuckles he could have just lol erased him with Chaos Control.Enerjak is superior but not immensely stronger than Super Sonic.Super Sonic however still scales from Enerjak/Chaos Knuckles.Foneybone1 said:Sonic is not comparable to Enerjak, Knuckles was massively weakened when he fought him and they were fighting evenly. Sonic says his aura is making progress against "the dark magic" meaning Finitvus' hex not Enerjak himself.
If Mogul was able to mortally wound the walkers but not the triple threat, they would scale above them, hence why the time Mogul wounds them was moved.
I know you didn't scale super forms above the walkers, but that is how they scale if Mogul's first tenure wounds the walkers.
Oh boy I have tons of stuff on the Wave to say on Discord I can explain in VC as here is not the best time.Ask me anything and I can answer in VC to make things easier.ElixirBlue said:And if all of this is true, how did Super Sonic preform a feat greater than Master Mogul with the SGW?
Stop calling things wank or BS if you can't debate on whyFoxthefox1000 said:^ Still find that BS but whatever. I don't have the patience to deal with debating it.