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What wincon does Shiki have here exactly? I guess death manipulation, but even then His MEODP are no longer 1-A according to the profile, and one hit will reduce him to ashes with that 6-C durability
 
Sonic kicks him in his balls to collect a bunch of rings.But sadly Shiki gets vaped out of existence before he drops the Rings
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Shiki hitting a death point should instant kill and erase sonic from existence. He should also vastly outskill sonic, too.
 
Shiki hitting a death point should instant kill and erase sonic from existence. He should also vastly outskill sonic, too.
Idk abt outskilling, unless Shiki falls under the conceptual bullshit skill of the Nasuverse, Sonic is way smarter and has his own entourage of martial arts and swordsmanship.
 
Alright. So who wins now?
This is a stomp,sonic's reaction is 4x higher than his combat speed,so he aint ever getting hit by shiki.
Probably, otherwise Sonic skillstonps everyone in the verse not named Kojiro
90% of the verse scales to Sasaki skill level,the verse just has really outdated profiles.(Enough that 90% don't even have a intelligence rating)

Also I highly doubt any tsukihime supporters are even active who might reply here.
 
This is a stomp,sonic's reaction is 4x higher than his combat speed,so he aint ever getting hit by shiki.
Well, shit.
90% of the verse scales to Sasaki skill level,the verse just has really outdated profiles.(Enough that 90% don't even have a intelligence rating)
That's a Nasuverse problem then. And iirc, 90% of the verse is definitely NOT Kojiro level, that sounds insanely ubsurd when there are servants that barely even fight in the first place and also are hax and stat demons in-verse. Even so, Sonic isn't getting skillstomped by him either, but that's a whole debate in an of itself that derails this thread into oblivion.
Also I highly doubt any tsukihime supporters are even active who might reply here.
I have no clue what the Nasu people are up these days, the verse is horribly outdated and people rarely have matches because of it.

You could call them, but then again, this is a stomp, not just because of your reasoning, but I don't think Classic Sonic is getting outskilled to any capacity to negate said perception amp either. Also Sonic one shots, but that's hella obvious.
 
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That's a Nasuverse problem then.
Yeah,that's right.
And iirc, 90% of the verse is definitely NOT Kojiro level, that sounds insanely ubsurd when there are servants that barely even fight in the first place and also are hax and stat demons in-verse.
I am refering to combat servants.
Even so, Sonic isn't getting skillstomped by him either, but that's a whole debate in an of itself that derails this thread into oblivion.
Honestly I could give you a skill chain.but that honestly ain't changing the verdict of this matchup so I won't.
 
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