White Woman slasher vs Goku??? (7-2-0)

[Cass5373]

Well, reviewing the points carefully, I noticed that if it is hand-to-hand, Shiki could not perform much against Goku since he is much superior in hand-to-hand battles. In itself, one attack from Nanaya could easily kill Goku, so it makes it a little confusing as to who to choose, but that's when you look at both characters that you notice that Nanaya is significantly outclassed in melee skills by Goku.
-Greater instinctive action
-Master martial artist
-Greater analytical prediction
-Information analysis
-Solar flare
-Mastery of stealth
-Manipulation of perception.
-Resistance to extrasensory perception -Induction of paralysis
-Not to mention that Goku is a genius in combat.
For these reasons I am almost completely inclined to vote for Goku.

 

[Vietthai96]

he usually doesnt fry his brain while looking at one singular thing

Goku possesses to throw danmaku ki blasts

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Well, reviewing the points carefully, I noticed that if it is hand-to-hand, Shiki could not perform much against Goku since he is much superior in hand-to-hand battles. In itself, one attack from Nanaya could easily kill Goku, so it makes it a little confusing as to who to choose, but that's when you look at both characters that you notice that Nanaya is significantly outclassed in melee skills by Goku.
-Greater instinctive action
-Master martial artist
-Greater analytical prediction
-Information analysis

-Solar flare

Shiki doesn't need his sight to use his meodp, he still can sense the lines on goku.

-Mastery of stealth
-Manipulation of perception.
-Resistance to extrasensory perception -Induction of paralysis
-Not to mention that Goku is a genius in combat.
For these reasons I am almost completely inclined to vote for Goku.

Goku is gonna try and block it, shiki cuts his arm off, goku gets off guard due to the pain and then shiki goes for the kill.

or he can just use this

• Seventeen Divisions:The technique Shiki used to "kill" Arcueid. It's a blazingly fast attack that consists of multiple slashes from head to toe that allowed Shiki to cut Arcueid into seventeen pieces before she could react.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Goku possesses to throw danmaku ki blasts

Shiki can kill projectiles, ez

 

[Cass5373]

Do people really forget that Goku, just by activating a little bit of his power, literally increases his speed in a gigantic way?
If we talk about speed multipliers then Shiki would be extremely far behind.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Do people really forget that Goku, just by activating a little bit of his power, literally increases his speed in a gigantic way?
If we talk about speed multipliers then Shiki would be extremely far behind.

speed multipliers created by forms are equalized.

 

[Vietthai96]

Shiki can kill projectiles, ez

Shiki gonna fry his brain if there are too many ki blasts, still this situation is unlikely

 

[Cass5373]

Shiki doesn't need his sight to use his meodp, he still can sense the lines on goku.

Solar flare also causes pain in its targets

Goku is gonna try and block it, shiki cuts his arm off, goku gets off guard due to the pain and then shiki goes for the kill.

or he can just use this

Goku can sense the malicious intentions of his enemy.
There was little I could do in that case when Goku could literally predict and analyze each of the attacks that Shiki would make.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Solar flare also causes pain in its targets

Shiki undergoes constant pain from his eyes

Goku can sense the malicious intentions of his enemy.
There was little I could do in that case when Goku could literally predict and analyze each of the attacks that Shiki would make.

Nanaya can erase his presence pretty easily

 

[Fezzih_007]

speed multipliers created by forms are equalized.

What?

Nanaya can erase his presence pretty easily

And that counters Goku predicting him How?

 

[Cass5373]

Shiki undergoes constant pain from his eyes

It may be but we don't know if it is at the level of the solar flare which even Goku himself tried to avoid using Master Roshi's glasses.

Nanaya can erase his presence pretty easily

I don't see that in the list of abilities Shiki has "resistance to extrasensory perception" What I'm trying to say is that it won't do any good to "erase" his presence if Goku is still going to find him.

 

[Cass5373]

And that counters Goku predicting him How?

It's true.

Nanaya can erase his presence pretty easily

What use would it be against Goku's entire arsenal of hand-to-hand skills?

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

It's true.

What use would it be against Goku's entire arsenal of hand-to-hand skills?

if goku tries to block anything (which he will, as shiki is using a blade), he's doomed

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

What?

the combat speed of the faster character is equalized to the slower one, but that does not count for speed amplification techinques

 

[Cass5373]

Si Goku intenta bloquear algo (lo que hará, ya que Shiki usa una espada), está condenado.

Yes, that is in case any of Shiki's attacks hit Goku but with:
-Greater analytical prediction.
-Information analysis.
-Master martial artist.
-Greater instinctive reaction.
I doubt that any of Shiki's attacks will reach him or be a problem so that he only has that resource left.

 

[Fezzih_007]

the combat speed of the faster character is equalized to the slower one, but that does not count for speed amplification techinques

That may be true, but you said here:

speed multipliers created by forms are equalized.

That speed multipliers are equalized.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

That may be true, but you said here:

That speed multipliers are equalized.

Yes, thats excluding techniques that amp your speed

• Speed Amplification techniques are assumed to grant the same percentile of increase to a character's equalized speeds, as they would to their usual speeds.

This is different from a form

 

[Fezzih_007]

Yes, thats excluding techniques that amp your speed


This is different from a form

Ah, so you saying transformations don't give you speed amps?

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Ah, so you saying transformations don't give you speed amps?

nope, that'd beat the point of equalizing speed anyway

 

[Fezzih_007]

nope, that'd beat the point of equalizing speed anyway

But transformations also counts as technique, so they indeed give speed amps too, If said transformation increase your speed.

If Goku is in base, and go super sayian, his speed gonna increase too. This is not the case If like, Goku is already in his super sayian form.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

But transformations also counts as technique, so they indeed give speed amps too, If said transformation increase your speed.

If Goku is in base, and go super sayian, his speed gonna increase too. This is not the case If like, Goku is already in his super sayian form.

They dont. Techinques in this case are like normal attacks. lets say goku had a special ki blast that was 10 times faster than his other attacks. That 10x multiplier would stay when equalized

 

[Fezzih_007]

They dont. Techinques in this case are like normal attacks. lets say goku had a special ki blast that was 10 times faster than his other attacks. That 10x multiplier would stay when equalized

I not sure what to tell you, because transformation do give you amps. Thats't how is been treated in every versus thread where a character can increase his speed by transforming.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

I not sure what to tell you, because transformation do give you amps. Thats't how is been treated in every versus thread where a character can increase his speed by transforming.

form specified in op, should be no issue now

 

[KingNanaya]

Still Shiki

 

[Fezzih_007]

Why the op not counting Goku votes? He have some already.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Why the op not counting Goku votes? He have some already.

For these reasons I am almost completely inclined to vote for Goku.

this person said inclined, if they clarify their vote ill add it to the tracker

 

[Fezzih_007]

Ah.
Well can count my vote towards goku then?
For fra.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Ah.
Well can count my vote towards goku then?
For fra.

vote counted

 

[Tarang123]

Shiki most likely slams due to hax and how Goku is. If it was UI Goku it might be a different situation

 

[Fezzih_007]

Shiki most likely slams due to hax and how Goku is. If it was UI Goku it might be a different situation

Shiki he have to actually hit Goku to use his hax, which i already explained why is very unlike to happen.

Goku gonna dodge Shiki attacks, since they have the intention of killing him.

 

[Tarang123]

Shiki he have to actually hit Goku to use his hax, which i already explained why is very unlike to happen.

Goku gonna dodge Shiki attacks, since they have the intention of killing him.

That's why I said UI might be different. If speed is equalized and they're in-character I don't expect Goku doing that

 

[Fezzih_007]

If speed is equalized and they're in-character I don't expect Goku doing that

You don't expect Goku dodging attack that intents to kill him?

Like, he don't even need to dodge, he can just catch Shiki wrist to stop him, and then punch him.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

You don't expect Goku dodging attack that intents to kill him?

Like, he don't even need to dodge, he can just catch Shiki wrist to stop him, and then punch him.

whats stopping shiki from dodging and cutting the line on his arm? shiki also has a excellent dodging ability, he can dodge characters that are faster than him by quit e abit

 

[Cass5373]

That's why I said UI might be different. If speed is equalized and they're in-character I don't expect Goku doing that

Does Shiki have any way to hit Goku with all the Martian abilities he has?

-Greater analytical prediction.
-Information analysis.
-Master martial artist.
-Greater instinctive reaction.

 

[Fezzih_007]

whats stopping shiki from dodging

Goku is holding Shiki arm, which would mean he can't move easily, and don't have much room to dodge.
He can't break free from his grip, due to LS difference.

and cutting the line on his arm?

The arm Goku holding in this situation is the one holding his knife, so he can't do that.

 

[Newendigo]

Yeah, sure

What, you are going to deny that Goku can one shot him?

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Does Shiki have any way to hit Goku with all the Martian abilities he has?

I dont think thats gonna help with all the speed amps shiki can get from his nanaya arts

 

[Cass5373]

I dont think thats gonna help with all the speed amps shiki can get from his nanaya arts

Wasn't it speed matched?

 

[Cass5373]

I dont think thats gonna help with all the speed amps shiki can get from his nanaya arts

I also don't see the "stat amplification" skill in Shiki's profile...

 

[Cass5373]

I vote for Goku because of the previous arguments presented.