Some Undertale God Tier Revisions

[Rodri_"Dante"]

I only accept Tomato level. Anything else is wank.

Actually, its just Sub Tomato level, except for Undyne who is Multi-Vegetable level+

 

[The_Foolish_Omniscient_Guy]

Omega Flowey

Stronger than Chara to an unknown degree, thus I think he should be affected in a similar fashion. He already showed the ability to generate and affect six separate files after destroying your main SAVE, which even gives a solid base for his low-end. "At least 2-C, likely 2-B".

You are talking about the level difference right? Actually i don't think Chara is LV20 after reaching their absolute. Why?

Because there is no way that a tomato level character is this strong. Because after reaching LV20, Chara didn't take completely control over the game, the proof is that the player could still RESET, SAVE and LOAD. This is only after Killing Asgore and Flowey that Chara reached their absolute. I think Chara has likely transcended the level system since they destroyed the whole game.

So that would prove that Chara is superior to Omega Flowey

 

[Raian230]

Foolish, what tier do you think Flowey and Chara should be?

 

[The_Foolish_Omniscient_Guy]

Foolish, what tier do you think Flowey and Chara should be?

Chara: likely 2-B Flowey: at least 2-C, likely 2-B

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

You are talking about the level difference right?

Nah. I'm talking about when Flowey directly says that getting the six SOULs will make him stronger than Chara.

 

[Dark649]

Azzy, is the downgrade revision ready to apply?.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

Tomato level is wank make it seed level

Anyway seems legit

 

[Magi_Hussie]

@Dark649

I requested everyone if they agree with my suggestion and the results were:

"Agree: 7

Disagree: 0"

 

[Raian230]

Not about the Asriel rating.

 

[Dark649]

Ok. I'm waiting for Azzy to respond before applying, as wel for his respond about Asriel.

 

[DMB_1]

I can finally make Chara vs. Monika

I'm still unsure about Asriel, though "possibly/likely 2-A" isn't too out of the question.

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

Bump

 

[DMB_1]

bump

 

[DMB_1]

R.I.P. "possibly/likely 2-A" Asriel.

 

[Magi_Hussie]

@Azathoth

Don't forget to check my previous response I mentioned before leaving a response here & tell me if I need to do last second changes for my suggestion of Asriel's tier just in case or you can say that its fine the way it is if you find nothing wrong with it.

 

[TheLuffyPlayer]

Well, the Asriel thing didn't make sense to me

And we consider Chara and OF 2-B cause Flowey states he saved so much times he knew nearly every single possibility and scenario in the underground (Except for only Frisk's arrival), and only the sheer number of neutral routes possible can easily surpass 1000 possibilities along with all the possible saves, and there are still other possible scenarios. Meaning the saves Flowey created easily surpassed 1000.

 

[SuperBearNeo_X]

I can live with the downgrades and stuff. But thing is I don't get is why Asriel is 2-B solely. I mean his power is infinite after all and thay should constitute a possible 2-A rating or atleast 2-B rating


But on a unrelated note.....Asriel vs Emnn when

 

[Jinsye]

I don't think Asriel can kill abstracts.

 

[Raian230]

Because after the tier 2 revisions, infinite 4-D power is no longer enough to qualify for 2-A.

 

[Magi_Hussie]

@Edward

Damn, you're right. Asriel can't permanently destroy abstracts/conceptual beings such as Chara who embodies one but still physically superior to them regardless though.

@Raian

I suggest you rephrase your statement since that does not sound 100% correct, so unless you mean "infinite 4D power" that requires a multipler of xinfinity, then otherwise you would be false on that.

 

[Raian230]

Infinitely superior to finite 4-D power = infinite 4-D power. But this does not qualify for 2-A anymore. Infinite 4-D power is vague, so you must actually be able to destroy an infinite number of 4-D continuums now to be 2-A.

 

[TheLuffyPlayer]

Why? It doesn't make sense

 

[Jinsye]

Because you can't multiply beyond a 5-D barrier or smth like that.

 

[TheLuffyPlayer]

Because you can't multiply beyond a 5-D barrier or smth like that.

Still didn't understand '-'

It's the same logic as saying someone with infinite 3-D power isn't High 3-A via multipliers alone.

 

[Raian230]

It's the idea that level of 4-D power doesn't perfectly correlate with number of timelines.

 

[TheLuffyPlayer]

It's the idea that level of 4-D power doesn't perfectly correlate with number of timelines.

Oh...

Why?

 

[Raian230]

I would just look up the thread. You should be able to find it on discussions about the tiering system page. I think it was also highlighted. Basically we consider the gaps between universal continuums to be unquantifiable and can only rely on specific feats when it comes to destruction of continuums.

 

[DMB_1]

The downgrade can be made then: the only thing that was yet to be discussed is wheter Asriel was still gonna maintain a 2-A key in some way or another, but it has just been debunked but the new Tiering System revisions.

Pretty much everyone agreed with anything else in the downgrades.

Now we just gotta wait for Azzy.

 

[ZackMoon1234]

So Asriel Dreemurr will get downgraded...


Time to remove his wins from my Compilation Wave

 

[Magi_Hussie]

Bump

 

[Saint_john_the_3rd]

Tomatoe level undertale seems accurate :U

 

[Saint_john_the_3rd]

On a serious note I agree.

 

[Rodri_"Dante"]

So basically the changes are:

• Downgrading the entire verse to Tomato Level
• The ones in the tl;dr of the OP
• Changing Chara's quote to "I am Chara"
• Changing Omega Flowey to Photoshop Flowey