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Some Thoughts and Revisions(NNT)
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So Now what would be the scaling?
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Also I'd like to Add Hawk into the Ranges Upgrade
He should also get an Interdimensional Range via being the portal to Purgatory
He should also get an Interdimensional Range via being the portal to Purgatory
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Anyone else?
I'm trying to get this one done faster than the speed crt
I'm trying to get this one done faster than the speed crt
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I'm agreeing with Mitch at the moment.
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This whole thing is derailing the purpose of the thread... this has been settled in another thread in which mitch participated in...
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We'll handle the DK stuff in another thread, but the Chaos statement is absolutely relevant to this one, and it's being rejected.
@Mitch Talk about DK/SD ratings in the rescaling thread if you want.
@Mitch Talk about DK/SD ratings in the rescaling thread if you want.
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You mean the out if context reasoning or the whole kill a star thing?
Also Can you hash out the scaling?
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speedster352
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So who are the people that agree with this crt so far? Have you counted the votes?
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I haven't
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Well Vessel Tarmiel and Sariel would both be Low 6-B (1 Teraton) via the Ocean Creation
So we could backscale the 60,000's like Estarossa and Post-Revival Base Meliodas to baseline High 6-C+ (550 Gigatons)
This would make Post-Revival Assault Mode Meliodas be Low 6-B (1.65 Teratons) via Assault Mode being a 3x Amp
The Original Demon would be Low 6-B (3.3 Teratons) due to being the combined power of two people above Post-Revival Assault Mode Meliodas
Afternoon Meliodas would be Low 6-B+ (4 Teratons) via upscaling from one-shotting the Original Demon and we know that Holy War/Prime Demon Mark Meliodas was equal to Near Noon Meliodas in that one Movie side chapter, so he scales to this rating as well, we also know that Prime Elizabeth scales to Holy War/Prime Demon Mark Meliodas and Post-Purgatory Base Mel has feats above her, so he would also be on this level
Holy War/Prime Assault Mode Meliodas would be 6-B (12 Teratons) via Assault Mode being a 3x Amp and the Half Power Demon King scales far above this
Full Power Demon King would be 6-B (24 Teratons) via being twice as strong as his half power
So we could backscale the 60,000's like Estarossa and Post-Revival Base Meliodas to baseline High 6-C+ (550 Gigatons)
This would make Post-Revival Assault Mode Meliodas be Low 6-B (1.65 Teratons) via Assault Mode being a 3x Amp
The Original Demon would be Low 6-B (3.3 Teratons) due to being the combined power of two people above Post-Revival Assault Mode Meliodas
Afternoon Meliodas would be Low 6-B+ (4 Teratons) via upscaling from one-shotting the Original Demon and we know that Holy War/Prime Demon Mark Meliodas was equal to Near Noon Meliodas in that one Movie side chapter, so he scales to this rating as well, we also know that Prime Elizabeth scales to Holy War/Prime Demon Mark Meliodas and Post-Purgatory Base Mel has feats above her, so he would also be on this level
Holy War/Prime Assault Mode Meliodas would be 6-B (12 Teratons) via Assault Mode being a 3x Amp and the Half Power Demon King scales far above this
Full Power Demon King would be 6-B (24 Teratons) via being twice as strong as his half power
speedster352
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I agree
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I agree with this
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I think Byasura has some sort of new scaling so i'll wait to see if he agrees
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Disagree with the interplanetary range, it’s baseless other than they created a realm in a way we have no idea how they created it and they never showed such range also in verse
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it's baseless to assume they created their realms via magic which is shown to be the only supernatural force in the verse?? how is it baseless to assume that?
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It’s baseless to say they created it at a go and not moving about while creating it so it can stay within their range
So yes it’s baseless and they never showed such range so they should stay as they are
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By precedence we just give them the value that they did create them in a go
And somehow your reasonings is more baseless...
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Actually nah that’s why they don’t scale to it in the first place cause we have no idea how it happened and yes so it’s baseless to grant them any range based on a vague feat we have nothing about and I definitely disagree with the range that’s all I have to say
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It's really not baseless when
1. We can logically deduce that it was via their magic due to Magic being the only supernatural force in the verse
2. By precedence we just give them the value that they did create them in a go meaning their magic would have an interplanetary range
PrinceofPein
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1. Does not mean to they did it at a go and it may have been slowly or little by little or one by one
2. We don’t scale them to it cause they don’t scale to it and we have no reason to as we have no idea how it happened
And again they never showed such range in verse even the DK range could not cover Britannia but you want to grant him inter planetary of a vague feat?
This is just going in circles I already told you how it is and unless you provide something else that you have not said or a new info in the manga or something I disgaree
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This is argument from repetition, i have asserted that the means by which they created the realms is most likely magic due to it being the only supernatural force in the verse and you haven't presented a counter to said argument... you repeat your previous argument that i already addressed
His goal is not to cover Britannia, his goal is to get a new vessel due to him aging, he has no reasons to just engulf Britannia in his range until he gets his vessel
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Unless he has a in verse feat that suggests he has the proposed range i will always disagree him gaining the range from a vague feat we know nothing about that’s all I got to say
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anyways can i bump?
speedster352
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Every 8 hours
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That was removed in the other thread.
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Wait so what's the new chain of scaling?
speedster352
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So 2 times then? Or is AM an unkwokn amp?
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I'll explain it if this next point gets accepted.
I talked about this in the other thread.
So, Ludoshel explicitly had the perfect vessel when he possessed Margaret, whereas Tarmiel and Sariel possessed dead and dying people (those two are demonstrably weakened to comparable extents here, as they had the same performance against Estarossa and Mael).
We see him battle Chandler and Cusack, and he notably doesn't do any damage, especially after his vessel begins to reach its limit.
Comparatively, True Ludoshel was grossly overpowering and inflicting heavy damage on The Original Demon before he used Crisis. Meaning, even within the perfect form, vessels are at least a 2x multiplier.
Vessel Ludoshel has a power level of 201,000, and True Form Tarmiel and Sariel had to work together alongside Derieri and the Sins to overwhelm 3 C Mael, who only attained a power level exceeding 200k after absorbing Derieri's Commandment and completely reversed the fight.
So I think it's safe to say Vessel Ludoshel is stronger than Tarmiel and Sariel's True Forms, giving us another 2x multiplier in the scaling chain.
Unknown.
speedster352
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bump
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I don't think there's any more input
speedster352
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When can the changes be applied?
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Ask Byasura but he said he wants to do all 3 threads at once
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I'll see if I can find more feats that can be calculated
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Bump?¿
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