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Who do you want added?
Comparable to base Luffy, fought him and took hits from him, could stagger him, etc.
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Some Random One Piece CRT
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This being the base Luffy whose durability is Mountain level from taking hits from Fujitora?
We're going to scale Caeser Clown and Usopp and Hody Jones to Fujitora?
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Luffy should only scale to Fujitora with armament haki, if not at all because gravity is blunt force.
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I'm not trying scaling either one of them to Issho.
My plan is to limit those who scale to Issho.
Luffy scales above Usopp's dura. Luffy took a hit from the gigantified children, same children who drew blood from Usopp with a single slap.
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So what can we do right now?
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Hody's AP > Usopp's Dura ~ Caesar's AP ~ Base Luffy's AP
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And the value of that is?
Personally I'm still convinced that if that is the only justification for base Hody Jones' rating, then it should be a "Likely" rating.
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31.0697895 Megatons
Usopp defeated/helped defeat King Neptune's men and he planned to run away from him, and Usopp wanted to run away from him.
Base Hody made him bleed.
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From what?
I'm not sure what you mean. You mean that King Neptune > Usopp, so Hody Jones > Usopp? Does King Neptune have a profile?
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Half of Hody's punch
Yup
Nada, but we have scaling for characters not relevant enough for profiles.
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Luffy is scaling from half of Hody's punch?
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I keep mistyping.
Half of Pica's punch*
Half of Pica's punch*
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So, just so I'm understanding right, the overdosed Hody Jones will be 32x stronger than base Luffy, and 16x stronger than Pica?
And I think you may need to elaborate on how this scaling chain fully connects to the source.
The verse has shifted from tons of people scaling to Fujitora to tons of people scaling to Pica.
And I think you may need to elaborate on how this scaling chain fully connects to the source.
The verse has shifted from tons of people scaling to Fujitora to tons of people scaling to Pica.
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No issues.
This scaling chain is to fix 3 issues. Stop Cavendish from scaling to Doflamingo's strings via giving him another scaling chain, stopping people from scaling to Issho, and prohibiting as much scaling to the higher tier characters.
Like in the OP, there will be a new key for Chinjao. Chinjao alongside Elizabello ii countered a punch from Golem Pica and destroyed it's arm, which via Newton's 3rd Law scales to it's punch's AP. Regardless of Newton's Law, they countered the punch's KE, which CinCameron calced at 62 megatons.
Scaling
All the Dressrosa characters scale above this weakened Chinjao, which roots from Base Sai. Sai has 2 reasons for scaling above this new Chinjao. He overpowered his strongest attack, the drill dragon nail, without his strongest attack, the drill dragon nail. They have the same amp, if not Chinjao has a superior one, and Sai is superior.Sai also deflected Lao G's attack. As we're not trying to scale Sai to prime strength busky Lao G, we're using that as justification for him scaling above Base Lao G, who's relative to weakened Chinjao.
Gladius's small explosions harmed Chinjao and he shot Baby 5 with a regular pistol, showing superiority to weakened Chinjao via 2 separate methods. Cavendish fought against Gladius, and we have a long scaling chain that'll be too annoying to explain. I can explain it in the next line regardless.
Base Luffy eventually scales off of this for fighting against Cavendish and catching his sword, showing superiority if not being comparable.
Caesar Clown fought against Luffy showing relativity for taking and dishing attacks for a prolonged period of time.
Usopp took an attack from Caesar. Base Hody scales above Usopp's durability because of being > Neptune and being directly > Usopp.
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Understood. So overdosed Hody is scaling to be 32x stronger than base Luffy?
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Pretty much
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Okay. I'll come back to this tomorrow.
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Gotcha
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We still have this feat
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Ferocious Tiger Calc 2
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Caesar Clown
Caesar Clown, also referred to as "Master" by his subordinates, is a former colleague of Vegapunk and the primary antagonist of the Punk Hazard Arc. Caesar is the leading expert on chemical weapons of mass destruction and is a demented scientist that has a bounty of 300,000,000 on his head...
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What is this based on?
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Absolutely nothing
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Deadass? Trash.
I have a solution.
Caesar, Buffalo, and Baby 5 all got electrocuted by Nami's attack.
No I'm not trying to scale them to Nami, but Caesar was conscious while Baby 5 was knocked out. Could that be used for a superior dura rating?
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Does he not have access to his Logia intangibility during the attack?
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During the lightning strike? Doesn't appear so since we see the smoke coming from his body, and that was presumably him yelling.
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Should be fine then I guess, so would this mean his durability scales >> Baby five?
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Pretty much
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Is this good enough to say Caesar > Usopp?
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Yeah it works.
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Using that.
Hody's AP > Usopp's Dura ≤ Caesar's AP > Usopp's AP > Buffalo's Dura > Baby 5's Dura > Sai's AP > Injured Chinjao's AP > 31 MTs
This is fine?
Hody's AP > Usopp's Dura ≤ Caesar's AP > Usopp's AP > Buffalo's Dura > Baby 5's Dura > Sai's AP > Injured Chinjao's AP > 31 MTs
This is fine?
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Looks good to me
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Looks good
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That's with the Gastille attack, which Caese didn't use on Usopp.
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Would that Gastille and Gastanet attacks really vary that greatly? I don't think other logia's have attacks that do so like that.
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Do we have proof that one attack is superior to the other?
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Ace has his attacks that can vary from his Fire Gun up to his Flame Emperor. While both attacks are rooted in the same source ability, the difference in potency between them should be quite clear.
Not objective proof so much, without actually calcing each of them, but Caeser Clown forced Luffy into dodging his Gastille and he thought that this attack would be more successful than his earliet Gastanets which he saw Luffy endure.
In the absence of any other options, then the scaling will have to do but it's far from perfect.
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This was a more serious Luffy who was angry at Caesar and who got scolded by Zoro to fight seriously right before, plus it was a beam he could dodge unlike the omnidirectional slime that surrounded him previously.
And when did he say that last part?
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When he thought he blew him to pieces.
But let's see where this scaling chain takes us for final values on the sandbox.
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I'm planning on removing Sai's second key and just using a "higher with Armament Haki"
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So far (I'm assuming) we've solidified a good scaling chain for a large number of the characters.
I'm going to update my sandbox so Damage can see exactly who and what scales where.
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