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Some of Xeno Goku resistances
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Because with them, having higher chakra or nen or whatever doesn't end the fight right there and then weaker characters can scrap together a win. DB, not the case. Bigger numbers win, except under very rare circumstances.
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Shouldn't we also give limit to reiatsu crush
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Good luck trying.
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I've heared too much about reiatsu crush. What does it do?
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Wot's the current consensus here?
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It's a Passive Soul Crush. Reiatsu Crushing can only be avoided by having a lot of Reiatsu/Reiryoku yourself or having resistence to Soul Manipulation. If we pit a Bleach character against anyone and allow Reiatsu Crushing, the Bleach character will literally win by just being present if the said opponent have no way to counter it.Zamasu Chan said:
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Are you telling me that Shikamaru, Kakashi, or even Tobirama can defeat Biju mode Naruto under any circumstances Lmao? Come on Cal. These verses are just as governed by power as Dragon Ball. Like you said, it's a Shounen thing I suppose.The real cal howard said:
And if you know HxH you'd know that having higher nen absolutely means you'll win lol. Cough *Meruem* Cough.
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Yes. Shikamaru can shadow tag Naruto, which he's not immune to. It wouldn't kill him but it would immobilize him. Kakashi can Kamui, which he's also not immune to. I don't know what Tobirama has tho. Naruto wouldn't give them the opportunity because he's shitton faster and stronger, but if they could react to him, then sure, they'd have a chance. Also keep in mind that Naruto and Sasuke were weaker than both, Madara and Kaguya. They never could just overpower those two. If this were Dragon Ball, Goku would just power up his ki and blast through the Infinite Tsukoyomi or his sheer ki would allow him to defend against the ash bones. No avoiding, no thinking a way around it, just power through like he's done since his 20s.
Meruem's also like, the first or second strongest person in the series so far tho.
Meruem's also like, the first or second strongest person in the series so far tho.
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Uh, Naruto can make 2000 clones at age twelve when Sasuke can't even make, like, twenty. Lee also can't use chakra, period. Chakra is not linear with power at all.
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I'd like to point out all the times Shadow possession Jutsu was negged with pure physical power lol.
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Genjustsu of any kind cant be countered with having a high amount of chakra. Neither can any space-time jutsu. Or poison/ venomous.
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Im fairly certain that was because of the Ten Tails sheer size, not power. IIRC its a weakness for the Nara clan to shadow possess things far heavier than them.
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That's false...literally the purpose of the Eight Gates is to increase the flow of chakra throughout your body to release your body's limiters. All of Lee's punches and kicks utilize chakra.Ricsi-viragosi said:
But, back on topic...
Resistances don't scale, period. Vegetto resisting Buu's absorption was him literally using a barrier to prevent his skin from being touched by Buu goop, or Vegetto would have been absorbed too. No one in-verse passively resists Buu's absorption.
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That's false...literally the purpose of the Eight Gates is to increase the flow of chakra throughout your body to release your body's limiters. All of Lee's punches and kicks utilize chakra.
But, back on topic...
Resistances don't scale, period. Vegetto resisting Buu's absorption was him literally using a barrier to prevent his skin from being touched by Buu goop, or Vegetto would have been absorbed too. No one in-verse passively resists Buu's absorption.
Xeno Gogeta would like to talk to you
But, back on topic...
Resistances don't scale, period. Vegetto resisting Buu's absorption was him literally using a barrier to prevent his skin from being touched by Buu goop, or Vegetto would have been absorbed too. No one in-verse passively resists Buu's absorption.
Xeno Gogeta would like to talk to you
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By Buu? No idea
By anyone else whose hax isn't correlated to power? Definitely
By anyone else whose hax isn't correlated to power? Definitely
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Stop. This. Nonsense.Gilad Hyperstar said:
For ***** sake we literally spent the ENTIRE thread trying to KILL this notion that only BRUTE FORCE was required to resist Dragon ball haxes.
Literally the ONLY thing that points to actual Brute Strength mattering to DB Hax is the phrase "Strong" and "Powerful", which if you take even a nanosecond of thought would realize makes NO SENSE because the only tool our characters has to gauge someone else's strength is, guess what, Ki Sense. Not "Brute Force" Sense.
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Ki is literally what defines AP in Dragon Ball, otherwise why would they say the felt a big ki when they sense someone strong?
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Yeah this thread needs to calm down before its closed, people get in trouble, and say things they might regret. Lik,e now.
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Ki is treated the same as AP in dragon ball. Raising ki = Raising Power level = Raising AP.
If hax can be overpowered with higher ki, then it is reliant on AP
If hax can be overpowered with higher ki, then it is reliant on AP
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It needs to be closed. tbh.
Yeah, after applying the changes.
Yeah, after applying the changes.
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So Xeno's still keeping the transmutation resistence
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hmm
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Again, way to go ahead and completely ignore literally every point brought up.Gilad Hyperstar said:
This is Correlation, not Causation.
Ki is treated as more than JUST AP in Dragon Ball; it's the determining factor for literally everything. Speed, Durability, AP, Haxes, everything is determined by it. You're completely downplaying the importance of Ki here.
And no, your example is a complete strawman.
If Hax can be overpowered with Higher Ki, then it is overpowered with Higher Ki. AP is reliant on Ki, and Hax Resistance is reliant on Ki. That does NOT make Hax Resistance reliant on AP.
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This mechanic is not something to be debated here. It has been debated before too and if it is to be changed, it has to be done by its own separate thread.
As far as this thread goes, Cal is right according to the current wiki rules. We don't scale resistances unless it's specified in-verse that a certain power provides resistance to certain hax. Characters have to show resistances.
As far as this thread goes, Cal is right according to the current wiki rules. We don't scale resistances unless it's specified in-verse that a certain power provides resistance to certain hax. Characters have to show resistances.
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>AKM
>Back to green name
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AKM im starting to get worried you know? Don't do this to us, think about the community.
>Back to green name
>No waifu pic
AKM im starting to get worried you know? Don't do this to us, think about the community.
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About the thread i do also agree.
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bump
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Thanks for coming here, AKM. Then I think this change can be applied now.AKM sama said:
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Yes. Though this isn't a Dragonball specific thing. Any hax (in DB or otherwise) that get treated like in DB where it's basically number games even with their haxes should get these resistances removed
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Since, the overall agreement is removed the powerscale resistance which is resistance to Transmutation; I will removed it.
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