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We see an empty WoV that has no time or space before teh ToP then we see GP add the stage .
That's the only info we have , as far as evidence goes then it favors my interpretation , if you have any proof that GP added time and space to all the WoV then feel free to show us , we're all waiting .
Not that it matters anyway since what's being discussed here is the future WoV that obviously has no time-space or arena considering the ToP never happened there .
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Yes, and is there any additional context/statements for the space-time being added to being limited or layered to only the stage?,No.
And again, statements can be contradicted.
If there is no explanation of how Hit's was able to use his time abilities, not even a statement about it, then we can't jump to NLFISH conclusions that are not even proven on canon. We can't just give explanations to things that are not even explained in canon and that favor plotholes.
You are just jumping to conclusions, you know that inconsistencies exist, right?
You guys should Stop making things up.
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the only thing we saw is him adding the stage , you're literally the one assuming he also added space to the whole thing , if you're so sure then show us these " statements , if you don't then everything you're saying is ntg more than speculation
not in this instance , it's not
you keep bringing up Hit as if he contradicts anything when he does not .
unlike you i'm not that pretentious to call anything that doesn't go along my headcanon as an '' inconsistency/contradiction''
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Using Time Manipulation in a timeless realm?
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I, too, can fire a gun without ammo.
But seriously, considering the Grand Priest added personal gravity to the stage, him also adding time seems plausible.
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This lack of proper context and explanation, and there is no statement regarding this matter, so stop with this hilarious conclusions, nuff said.
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And can you proof that the space-time is only layered to the stage?.
I don't know how did you guys jumped to that dumb and NLFISH conclusion, without CANON basis, like statements or additional context, when there is none.
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Same
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Completely agree with @CR_Catinho here.
For Zeno, you can just give him EE via Void Manip. That covers everything. Resistance Negation is also obvious.
For Shenron, void manip fits his case. Since he restores Universes from non-existence, and all their contents which include their bodies and soul.
For Zeno, you can just give him EE via Void Manip. That covers everything. Resistance Negation is also obvious.
For Shenron, void manip fits his case. Since he restores Universes from non-existence, and all their contents which include their bodies and soul.
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This is very good point.
All these discussions of ToP WoV is pointless. When we are only concerned with Zeno erasing Future Timeline which has its own WoV.
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EE of gods can erase entire universes I think, they got resistance to it plus void manipulation, Zeno's EE is capeable of erasing these gods [Not just because he can erase everything, but because we see him erasing Gods of destruction]
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Actually he should get it the other around Void manipulation VIA EE since he uses EE to preform void manipulation . And resistance negation isn't on his profile so I thought it's a good thing for hin to have it.
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Oh so hakai is 4D?
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Void manip covers both actual.
The ability is very versatile.
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Yeah, I think.
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No u
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I will take your wanking privileges
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WoV is a textbook example of a "void" that is not considered a true void according to our standards. This is common knowledge by now.
Super Shenron should get Creation due to this. I guess Reality Warping already covers it but it should still be noted since it is one of his main uses.
This just means Zeno's EE is more potent.
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1-Why isvthat? For the main one atleast.
2- According to void manipulation, restoring something from a nonexisten state to an existint one is void manipulation.
3- Or it bypasses resistance because he can erase people that have resistance to EE
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i think i agree with shenron having void manipulation, would creation and void manipulation (justif here) cover it
zeno is dependent on if the website buys "stronger = hakai useless", because if not, zeno should bypass it, i don't think it would be resistance negation though, i have seen abilities that bypass resistances just mentioning it due to potency.
zeno is dependent on if the website buys "stronger = hakai useless", because if not, zeno should bypass it, i don't think it would be resistance negation though, i have seen abilities that bypass resistances just mentioning it due to potency.
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Well Gods have resistance to EE and void manipulation yet Zeno still worked on them, and I don't think the wiki agrees with "stronger = hakai" useless, or else jiren would have it. So not resistance negation but more like bypassing
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yes, would probably need to add in his justification (including gods of destruction)
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1. It's portrayed more as an empty space than a place with nonexistence.
2. That is mentioned under the heading "Creation", which is also an aspect of void manipulation. I guess either one works.
3. Bypassing a resistanceis resistance negation which requires more explicit evidence. In this case, Zeno's erasure is just more powerful/potent than the GoDs.
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Dunno man, a place filled with eternal nothing void of any time and space sounds pretty void like to me.
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It does have time and space.
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1- "It's a wolrd without space or time, filled with eternal nothingness " plus being called a world of void, seems pretty void ish to me.
2- well Creation could work, but it sounds kinda misleading with the context, since he "restored them" it goes well with zeno erasing them. Thus void manipulation is more appropriate for the context.
3- Yeah, and zeno seems pretty clear cut. GODs have resistance against EE, Zeno erased them despite of their resistance, his EE is more potent and ignores your resistance, it also goes well with his "he can erase anything he wants in an instant".
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Zeno just bypasses baseline resistance to EE up to 1 layer, nothing more, nothing less
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When...did I say...otherwise?
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All those statements in bog about them destroying the universe is hyperbole.
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What do you mean hyperbole? They are fan made.
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