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I agree with Reppu and DontTalk here.
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Slight Dialga and Palkia Revision
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The Creation Trio existed in absolute nothing . They shown existence erasure feats. They should definitely have resistance to void manipulation/destruction.
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@GenjiTheGreat
Existing in absolute nothingness =/= Void Manipulation as we stated previously. By that logic, characters like Hakume and Professor Paradox would have Void Manipulation.
They have shown space-time erasure feats. Not void feats.
Existing in absolute nothingness =/= Void Manipulation as we stated previously. By that logic, characters like Hakume and Professor Paradox would have Void Manipulation.
They have shown space-time erasure feats. Not void feats.
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It literary states on Void Manipulation's profile that existing in nothing counts. Converting anything to nothingness is Void manipulation, not just controlling void/nothing.
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@Reppuzan: tbh._.
I shouldn't have started that argument because I knew it wasn't going to end well.
Anyways about the Creation Trio?
I shouldn't have started that argument because I knew it wasn't going to end well.
Anyways about the Creation Trio?
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Actually now that I think about it, werent the creation trio actually created in nothingness before Arceus had them make the verse? Would that count as resistance to existence erasure?
@Blahblah I think what Genji means is that the pokemon moves and abilities that the trio created are 4-D when used by the trio, not other pokemon. It goes with my example
A normal hyper beam from an Ursaring to a Flygon would be just that, a normal attack
But when Dialga and Palkia used it, they literally sent shockwaves across different universes/dimensions (And timelines going by the manga), as well as the reverse world all at once. That is infinitely beyond what the moves in general are usually portrayed as. So I think his point is that why cant the moves be 4-D if they were created and used by the Creation Trio.
And im still waiting for an answer to my question. Why wouldnt the creation trio have resistances to these said moves if they created them, especially if they are used by infinitely weaker pokemon that could never so much as scratch them? Outside game mechanics we have never seen them be effected by these said moves and abilities unless its coming from each other or Arceus.
@Blahblah I think what Genji means is that the pokemon moves and abilities that the trio created are 4-D when used by the trio, not other pokemon. It goes with my example
A normal hyper beam from an Ursaring to a Flygon would be just that, a normal attack
But when Dialga and Palkia used it, they literally sent shockwaves across different universes/dimensions (And timelines going by the manga), as well as the reverse world all at once. That is infinitely beyond what the moves in general are usually portrayed as. So I think his point is that why cant the moves be 4-D if they were created and used by the Creation Trio.
And im still waiting for an answer to my question. Why wouldnt the creation trio have resistances to these said moves if they created them, especially if they are used by infinitely weaker pokemon that could never so much as scratch them? Outside game mechanics we have never seen them be effected by these said moves and abilities unless its coming from each other or Arceus.
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This is my hypothesis, since they embody the perfect concepts of time and space, it is impossible for them to exist in a place void of existence as their mere presence would be creating the concept of space and time as soon as they entered it.
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Moves that have never been shown to work on a 4D scale shouldn't be assumed to. The creation trio have never been shown to use many of those moves and abilities, and thus shouldn't be assumed to be able to.
As for your question, I thought I said this earlier, but my memory sucks, so maybe I'm just imagining it: they're immune to those moves and abilities because of their higher dimensional nature, not because they have hax resistance, the attacks are infinitely too weak to effect them, so it wouldn't matter what hax they used. But if they fought someone on their tier with the abilities, it would be assumed to effect them, unless they have feats to prove otherwise.
Moves that have never been shown to work on a 4D scale shouldn't be assumed to. The creation trio have never been shown to use many of those moves and abilities, and thus shouldn't be assumed to be able to.
As for your question, I thought I said this earlier, but my memory sucks, so maybe I'm just imagining it: they're immune to those moves and abilities because of their higher dimensional nature, not because they have hax resistance, the attacks are infinitely too weak to effect them, so it wouldn't matter what hax they used. But if they fought someone on their tier with the abilities, it would be assumed to effect them, unless they have feats to prove otherwise.
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