Shulk VS. Rimuru Tempest

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Shulk can also resist fear hax/possession on a 2-B scale.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/4193652?useskin=oasis
Not only Shulk's 2B is above Rimuru's in AP, but Rimuru has no feats of copying another 2B, so i don't think he should be able to, also isn't Turn Null the only 2B thing Rimuru has?

Hax=/=AP. And yes, but given the afterstories, he can use it very often.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Shulk can also resist fear hax/possession on a 2-B scale.

I got two very different answers.

 

[Thatsafloridathing]

Actually come to think of it, Alvis could probably also just win via AP advantage, Rimuru can't actually affect him due to his Higher-Dimensional Existence.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

I'm simply quoting the directly from the profile he resisted Zanza (another 2-B being) fear hax/possession.

 

[Everything12]

By the way what Abstract Existence and Concept does the Spirit of Darkness in Slime have?

 

[Thatsafloridathing]

Oh well nvm then, the resistance I listed might've been much earlier in the game.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Actually come to think of it, Alvis could probably also just win via AP advantage, Rimuru can't actually affect him due to his Higher-Dimensional Existence.

AP wont put him down

 

[JoshSSJGod]

So this is incon? Rimuru can't put down Alvis for good which means he can't put down Shulk for good?

 

[Everything12]

If Turn Null the Ultimate Power in verse only gives Conceptual Manipulation Type 3, then Alvis can destroy Veldora and the Spirit of Darkness through AP alone, by destroying the verse and thus destroying it's Concepts if they are Type 3.

 

[JoshSSJGod]

Also question, does Rimuru resist Casuality Manip?

 

[Rathidzeo]

What stops AP from killing him?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Also question, does Rimuru resist Casuality Manip?

Yes

 

[Thatsafloridathing]

Oh yeah, I just saw Mid-Godly Regen on Rimuru's profile. But there's some passives I listed earlier that Rimuru still doesn't resist.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

If Turn Null the Ultimate Power in verse only gives Conceptual Manipulation Type 3, then Alvis can destroy Veldora and the Spirit of Darkness through AP alone, by destroying the verse and thus destroying it's Concepts if they are Type 3.

Mid-Godly tho

 

[XDragnoir]

I think every resistance Alvis has is 4D, so he has 4D mind hax resistance.

 

[Rathidzeo]

Alvis's EE negates mid-godly, so can Shulk win that way?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

I think every resistance Alvis has is 4D, so he has 4D mind hax resistance.

Thats not how it works

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Alvis's EE negates mid-godly, so can Shulk win that way?

Rimuru resists it

 

[JoshSSJGod]

To what extent does Rim resist EE?

 

[Everything12]

The Spirit of Darkness is a Type 3 Concpet and his Mid-Godly is Type 8 from said Concept. So Alcis just has to destroy the verse and Rimuru is capital D dead.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

The Spirit of Darkness is a Type 3 Concpet and his Mid-Goldy is Type 8 from said Concept.

Its not. Only his Type 8 is dependant on the spirit of darkness

He can come back from complete body and soul destruction, regardless of those above

 

[Everything12]

"Regenerationn (Low-Godly, Mid-Godly overtime; Absorbed and analyzed demons. A demon was born as a conceptual being without a physical body that receives power from the Spirit of Darkness. Spirits are type 3 concepts as their birth give rise to the existence of their respective element, for example, time never existed until the Spirit of Time was born)"

 

[XDragnoir]

Again, what 2B EE has Rimuru ever resisted? And one that nulls Mid Godly as well.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

"Regenerationn (Low-Godly, Mid-Godly overtime; Absorbed and analyzed demons. A demon was born as a conceptual being without a physical body that receives power from the Spirit of Darkness. Spirits are type 3 concepts as their birth give rise to the existence of their respective element, for example, time never existed until the Spirit of Time was born)"

Wrong key

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

I might be wrong but you usually need to concept nuke (usually type 2) and/or mid-godly (preferably high-godly) Regenerationn negation in order to permanently "kill" someone with mid-godly regen.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

@Everything12 All previous abilities, sans Blessed (Lost it after becoming more powerful than Veldora), Improved Reactive Evolution (Rimuru evolves every day becoming stronger to the point that he completely outclasses those who were major threats to him before. In addition, he can also create new skills from information and skills that he has already gathered via his Analysis Expert & Food Chain skills, thus making him able to deal with any situation he finds himself), Time Manipulation (Can control the flow of time with Time Control to stop time and move at a million times normal speed while in stopped time), Abstract Existence (Type 2. Additionally, absorbed and analyzed angels. Angels were born as conceptual existences that receive power from the Spirit of Light and will revive as long as the Spirit of Light exist), Transmutation, Dimensional Travel, Immortality (Types 4, 8 and 9), Reality Warping (With Primitive Magic he can produce phenomena merely by wishing for it), Power Modification (With Harvest Lord Shub-Niggurath), Organic Manipulation, Subjective Reality, Damage Transferal, Pocket Reality Manipulation, Improved Matter Manipulation, Improved Memory Manipulation, Probability Manipulation, Improved Sleep Manipulation, Disease Manipulation, Necromancy, Attack Reflection, Regenerationn (Mid-Godly)

 

[Everything12]

How does he get his Mid-Godly in that key from, as it doesn't give a explanation.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

How does he get his Mid-Godly in that key from, as it doesn't give a explanation.

He comes back from body and soul destruction

 

[OpMasada]

How does he get his Mid-Godly in that key from, as it doesn't give a explanation.

It's an ability IIRC.

 

[Thatsafloridathing]

There's still passive probability manipulation and life-force absorption Rimuru has to deal with though.

 

[JoshSSJGod]

Okay so, I'mma gonna ask some questions since they got lost in the flood of comments on this so here we go.

Question 1: Can Rim affect higher dimensional beings? From what I've been seeing he can't.

Question 2: How potent is his resistance to EE? Depending on the answer this could decide the match.

Question 3: Does Rim resist Resistance Negation, passive Life-Force nomming, attack reflection and so on.

Question 4: Alvis massively outranged Rim due to his much larger AP and Omnipresence, how is Rim gonna deal with that?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

There's still passive probability manipulation and life-force absorption Rimuru has to deal with though.

He resists both

 

[Rathidzeo]

We still need to know how good Rimuru's EE resistance is.

 

[Everything12]

Rimuru doesn't have Resistance Negation Resistance.

 

[Rathidzeo]

Then Shulk can use EE to end the match, right?

 

[XDragnoir]

Also, all fate hax in slimeverse are 3D afaik, Shulk has passive 4D fate hax.

 

[Thatsafloridathing]

There's still passive probability manipulation and life-force absorption Rimuru has to deal with though.

He resists both

I still don't see those two resistances on the profile.

 

[Bware1]

Probability resistance is under Psuedo True Dragon Tab, but I don't see Life-Force Absorption.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Shulk's resistance Negation is only for status effects iirc