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Shulk VS. Rimuru Tempest

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What type of Concept does Alvis get his Abstract Existence from. Also Alvis range is the same as Arceus and Arceus has enough range to deal with the Imaginary Stomach Dimension, let's not start that one again.
 
He omnipresence is on multiversal scale? Still cant covers Rimuru type 3 though, because 1 of His Body is in His stomach(Imaginary infinite space)

If that's the case, He might not be able to affect Alvis either due to him scaling to a countless amount of universes, similar to Arceus.

Omnipresence =\= embodiment.
 
The thing is Alvis can act independently of Shulk's actions. Rimuru needs to affect him as well, Incapping Shulk doesn't stop the fight.
 
One more, can someone please answer Shulk's mental resistances, and resistance to durability neg, before we can actually start debating what Rimuru actually starts with.
 
Everything12 said:
What type of Concept does Alvis get his Abstract Existence from. Also Alvis range is the same as Arceus and Arceus has enough range to deal with the Imaginary Stomach Dimension, let's not start that one again.
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Because people keep ingoring that Imaginary space is a locked space where Rimuru rule over it, and yeah entering Imaginary space is the same as suicide.
 
First things first does Alvis Concept exist beyond the multiverse, will destroying the Multiverse destroy his Concept. If not then the Concept is Type 2 and Rimuru can't do anything.

Second thing can Alvis through being at all points of Time Incap Rimuru before Rimuru Incaps Shulk.

Three does Alvis have a range that exceeds Rimuru's because that's all you need to bypass Rimuru's stomach and deal with his Acausality Type 3
 
Everything12 said:
First things first does Alvis Concept exist beyond the multiverse, will destroying the Multiverse destroy his Concept. If not then the Concept is Type 2 and Rimuru can't do anything.
Second thing can Alvis through being at all points of Time Incap Rimuru before Rimuru Incaps Shulk.

Three does Alvis have a range that exceeds Rimuru's because that's all you need to bypass Rimuru's stomach and deal with his Acausality Type 3
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Alvis does exist beyond Xenoblade's multiverse.
 
Theirs also the fact that Alvis as a Abstract Existence Type 1 that is Omnipresent throughtout his Multiverse, which is the same size as the Pokemon verse, Rimuru also has to deal with the same problem he did against Arceus.
 
Everything12 said:
Theirs also the fact that Alvis as a Abstract Existence Type 1 that is Omnipresent throughtout his Multiverse, which is the same size as the Pokemon verse, Rimuru also has to deal with the same problem he did against Arceus.
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Why i don't see AE in Shulk profile?

Again omnipresence =\= embodiment.
 
Alvis is Shulk's Sword, he has his own Profile and just think of him as the GER to Shulk's Giorno. Also the Omnipresent is more talking about the large size of Alvis' existence that makes it impossible for Rimuru to effect even like 1% of Alvis.
 
Milly Rocking Bandit said:
Milly Rocking Bandit said:
One more, can someone please answer Shulk's mental resistances, and resistance to durability neg, before we can actually start debating what Rimuru actually starts with.
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Oh yeah sorry about that, iirc Shulk can resist mind manipulation that's able to affect 3 targets.
 
Thatsafloridathing said:
Milly Rocking Bandit said:
Milly Rocking Bandit said:
One more, can someone please answer Shulk's mental resistances, and resistance to durability neg, before we can actually start debating what Rimuru actually starts with.
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Oh yeah sorry about that, iirc Shulk can resist mind manipulation that's able to affect 3 targets.
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Okay, Rimuru absolutely blasts through his resistance. All of his mental passives are up in the 150,000 - 750,000 range.
 
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