Shulk vs Gilgamesh 2

[Bware1]

She is on the level of all possible futures, but it doesn't show to bypass Acasuality. Alvis'/Shulk does, unless thier is there are scans that support it

 

[Overlord775]

Her's works on a 5-D scale

 

[Thatsafloridathing]

Alvis is stated to transcend the multiverse on his profile, I still don't know if Gilgamesh can affect him.

 

[Thatsafloridathing]

Ea can affect the Types, who work on a different set of concepts than normal, and conceptually Nonexistant beings, so Alvis's thing doesn't save him from being Enuma Elished in the face

Also, how does working on a different set of concepts than normal mean that he can affect something above the multiverse? Gilgamesh doesn't even have any abilities related to affecting Higher Dimensional Existence on his profile either, so I still have no way of verifying if what you're saying is true.

 

[Bware1]

Bump

 

[Bware1]

Bump

 

[Schnee_One]

Gilgamesh via blade Spam and versatility

Nothing Shulk has is something Gil hasn't dealt with

 

[Bware1]

Gill isn't just fighting Shulk, he's also fighting Alvis too

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Gill isn't just fighting Shulk, he's also fighting Alvis too

Alvis isn't too special. He doesn't have anything which changes the game and most of it is just the exact same things as shulk

Gil FRA

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Yeah, Gil FRA.

 

[Bware1]

Questions haven't been answered yet, can Gill kill legit Higher-Dimensional Existences. BB's mind his Higher-Dimensional but not her physical body. Also Alvis' Subjective Reality really hasn't been adressed yet

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Pretty sure Gil has fought characters with subjective reality

And if gil can harm higher D minds, he would be able to harm Alvis

 

[Schnee_One]

Ten Crowns nulls subjective reality Im pretty sure that was brought up already.

Also what higher dimensional existence?

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

He has fought BB despite her Ten Crowns.

 

[Bware1]

Alvis has Higher-Dimensional Existence. Someone asked if EA could affect him

 

[Bware1]

Also votes have been counted

 

[Paul_Frank]

Gil fra

subjective reality doesn't cancel it, it was canceled because in verse rules allowed Gil to use the same Authority BB had to bypass her Authority, its directly stated that he got the exact same power

 

[Overlord775]

By the way, Gil can shoot Gae Bolg and Harpe, so he can make wounds on Shulk that Alvis wouldn't be able to heal

 

[Schnee_One]

Alvis has Higher-Dimensional Existence. Someone asked if EA could affect him

Unless it's 5D or something, there is a no reason another 2A can't do it

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Also, doesn't Gil have higher AP than shulk, and thus better range

 

[Bware1]

That's not really gonna matter much since Alvis can create a new Shulk to take his place, also do they bypass forcefields? Anyway I need to head out for a bit, I'll be back later

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

That's not really gonna matter much since Alvis can create a new Shulk to take his place, also do they bypass forcefields?

But gil just kills Alvis as well

 

[Overlord775]

That's not really gonna matter much since Alvis can create a new Shulk to take his place, also do they bypass forcefields? Anyway I need to head out for a bit, I'll be back later

Gil nou'es the Subjective Reality

Forcefields are bypassed by Gil having higher AP and by the fact Gae Bolg is a conceptual weapon

 

[Bware1]

In that case, I'm not really seeing a wincon for Shulk here, anyway I have to leave so I'll be back later

 

[JoshSSJGod]

May I ask, could Shulk and therefore Alvis remove Ten Crowns or disable it with a Resistance Negating Causality Manipulation or Power Null? If not then Shulk really has no win cons making this a stomp.

 

[Schnee_One]

Possibly

 

[Overlord775]

Nah, Gilgamesh resists having his resistances negated and resist Powernull and Causality Manipulation

 

[JoshSSJGod]

Nah, Gilgamesh resists having his resistances negated and resist Powernull and Causality Manipulation

That is not on Gil's profile. We also discussed this earlier so if you want to use that argument I recommend making a CRT to get those resistances accepted before making that argument here.

 

[Schnee_One]

Shulk loses regardless Anyway

 

[Overlord775]

that's not stuff that people put in the profiles AT ALL, no profile does it

Higher Authorithy resists and bypasses lower Authorithy and Gil has one of the highest Authorithies of the verse

 

[Schnee_One]

Resistance to resistance negation is on profiles look at persona

"They don't do it so we don't have to either" is not smart.

Have it on the files

 

[JoshSSJGod]

Alright so with Gil's current profile. Let's assume for a minute that Shulk can get past Ten Crowns with a Resistance Negating Power Null. Couldn't Alvis just thought based Resistance EE or Monado Purge to end the fight there and then?

 

[Schnee_One]

Sure if he used both fast enough

But Can't Gil do literally anything to kill Alvis and Shulk?

They're baseline, Precog is moot, and they're not dealing with GoB.

 

[Bware1]

Back and actually they have a scaling chain behind them, not a very big one but they're above baseline

 

[Schnee_One]

Probably not enough for Gil however

 

[JoshSSJGod]

Precog is moot? Mind explaining your reason please?

 

[Overlord775]

Gil beat BB, who has better precog

 

[Schnee_One]

Ten crowns nulls Precog

Didn't the above say this multiple times?

 

[JoshSSJGod]

No actually. Thanks for clearing it up though.

 

[Schnee_One]

Well the above seems to be tripping over what Gil can and can't do, especialy with the 11 million Gods nonsense.