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I am going to mention a few different pages. I will say the name of the page I am talking about when I propose a change. I will also number each point I make and will at some points say see # if I already talked about that. (Also Ignore that it starts at negetive 2 thats because I went back and added some later and did not want to change all the numbers.)
-1. Xenoblade X should be removed from the page and moved to its own page. It is an entirely separate universe that is not connected to the numbered games and plenty of things about the universe are significantly different.
0. There are 2 speed feats that I disagree with.
a. Shulk and Alvis drift from Saturn to the Moon in about a minute (80.505658c, FTL+) This is in memory space, not in our real solar system. It is Alvis showing Shulk a representation of what the solar system looked like. His physical body is not moving at all.
b. Ganglion Skells cross the Samaar Federation (214434.43c, Massively FTL+) just because they can get from one place to another in a certain amount of time does not necessarily mean they can move that fast. GIven Xenoblade X's inspiration from Xenosaga I would say that it is more likely that they have something similar to the gates from Xenosaga.
Monado I
1. Immortality (Limited Type 4 plus Type 6 though The Monado): These are zanza's abilities not Shulk's. Zanza can possess other people but that is not true of Shulk he is just one of Zanza's Vessels and will not survive if Zanza chooses a new one.
2. Perception Manipulation Should be Passive perception Manipulation (Only on self)
3. Shulk's life is protected by Alvis who wishes for him to replace Zanza as the new God which has allowed for Shulk to survive fatal wounds. I'm not exactly sure what him surviving fatal wounds is referring to, but at this point it is Zanza who is protecting him and wants him to survive, not Alvis.
4. I understand Precognition but why is it passive? If it's the times when he knows what will happen in the future without a vision that does not happen with the Monado I. If it is him getting the visions without actively choosing to have them that is still not true. Shulk is not choosing to have the visions but Zanza is choosing to show them to him.
5.this (visions) can affect even Acausality (Type 2 and 4) users as shown by Shulk being capable of seeing his own future even when other users such as Hom's Alvis couldn't do the same) Shulk can't see his own future either. The visions he see's are visions of what will happen if he does not do anything. He does not always do the same things that he is shown doing in visions.
6.Acausality (Type 1, 2 and 4; Shulk's existence is described as a fluctuation, existing outside the results of predictions of the future. This would later be fully explained as him existing outside of the Passage of Fate which explains how how was able to save people who were destined to die and change the Passage of Fate, which acts as the Multiverse's Causality System existing beyond it's space-time axis. Was unable to be seen through the precognition of Alvis while in his Homs form Shulk existing outside the passage of fate just means that his future is not predetermined not that he is somehow acausal.
7. and was capable of retaining his memories of Zanza after the universal reset which wiped the memories of his existence. What is this talking about?
8. Blessed (Protection; Is protected by Alvis and his use of the Passage of Fate so that he can become the new God. Zanza who is currently the one "Blessing" him not Alvis. This is not true yet.
9. Limited Heat Manipulation (The Monado emits large amounts of heat which has shown to be capable of melting the armour of characters such as Metal Face, this would make the heat produced by The Monado superior to the heat that an ether river produces as other faced Mechon such as Xord were able to survive prolonged contact in one) The way the Monado harmed metal face was not heat. Also Shulk can hold the Monado fine.
10. Regeneration (At least Low-Mid, likely far higher For The Monado; The Monado that Zanza used was shown to be in perfect condition even after being cut in half) Regeneration is the ability to heal from wounds at an accelerated rate. How is that Regeneration?
11. Deconstruction (Blade weapons such as The Monado are shown to be capable of disintegrating foes though basic attackI s this even includes those who can swim in the cloud sea which breaks down matter it comes into contact with) This happens because monsters disintegrate when they die, Not because of the abilities of any specific weapon.
12. Biological Absorption and Power Absorption (Monado Eater consumes its target along with any buffs they had) Can't get Monado eater with Monado I
13.Passive Fate Manipulation (Shulk is the new god that Alvis uses the Passage of Fate for as so a new universe can be created, this would mean that nothing can befall Shulk that would make him unable to replace Zanza and create a new universe which is shown by Metal Face not killing Shulk in Colony 9 for The Monado despite the fact that Metal Face desperately wanted The Monado and events can happens to benefit Shulk such as when Xord's body suddenly was unable to pump enough blood which forced him to retreat, this binds even Acausality (Type 2 and 4) users as shown by Zanza's use of the Passage of Fate preventing Shulk from saving The Emperor as explained by Alvis) I don't know precisely how to explain it but the Idea the Shulk just magically can't be harmed at all just because Alvis wants that is just not the case.
14. Probability Manipulation (Can increase his chances of setting off statuses, performing a critical hit, landing a hit on his opponent, etc) This is not Probability Manipulation. If I get a sharper sword I increase the chance that someone I hit will die. That's not manipulating probability.
15. Durability Negation (Via Bleed Attack, which can make others bleed through attacks even when said attacks are unable to do so prior and can make others bleed when they couldn't normally can't conventionally) Bleed does 20% of the damage of the art that caused the status https://xenoblade.fandom.com/wiki/Bleed_(XC1). If the opponent is stronger the bleed will do less damage it is not negating durability.
15. Supernatural Luck (Via Unbeatable Gem, which can allow Shulk to survive a normally fatal blow with 1 HP) This is not at all related to luck.
16. Social Influencing, Limited Empathic Manipulation (Via Shadow Eye and ether gems allowing for Shulk to increase or decrease how aggro opponents are to Shulk) Shadow eye makes Shulk harder to see and therefore he is attacked less. He is not manipulating the enemy.
17. Passive Damage Transferal (Via Spike Gems allow the user to send back the exact same damage they took to the attacker, allowing both parties to be equally damaged) This is not Passive Damage Transferal. Spike is exactly what it sounds like. It's making it so making contact with you harms whoever did like having spikes on yourself.
18. Possesion, Body Puppetry, Pain Manipulation and Enhanced Electricity Manipulation (Via The Monado which has shown to possess those who attempt to wield it such as Arglas or control people such as Dunban, Dunban's exposure to The Monado also caused him to be wrapped in electricity that caused him to lose the use of his right arm permanently and Shulk's exposure caused him to be enveloped with an indescribable pain) This is Zanza's ability not Shulks.
Monado II
All previous apply except 12
19. Sealing (The Monado was used by A to damage and seal Fog Rifts which are rifts in space-time Shulk does not necessarily have abilities A does and it's not clear A was the one who did the sealing.
20. Immortality Negation (Type 3 - Up to Low Godly; Upscales from The Bionis as Shulk uses the same Monado that The Bionis used) Shulk does not necessarily have abilities that Zanza/The Bions have and i don't think it's clear that the mechonis regenerates.
Replica Monado
All previous apply except 3, 8, 12
21. minus Regeneration Negation never stated to have Regeneration Negation
22. Fear Manipulation (His presence caused Dickson; who is a person who has been in many wars and has seen comparable/superior characters and has never felt fear before in his life, to shake in fear) Dickson is afraid because Shulk is the first person who Is able to harm him not because Shulk manipulated him to be afraid.
23. Immortality Negation (Type 3 - Up to Low Mid; Is able to effortlessly kill Telethia who previously was stated by Shulk himself to have too potent of a regeneration) He doesn't stop them from regenerating to beat them though.
24. Awakened Power (Gained a sudden burst in power when motivated by his friends which allowed him to surpass and defeat Dickson who previously was getting bored from their fight) The awakened power is the Monado III..
25. Self-Sustenance (Type 1; Can breathe in Memory Space which is stated to resemble the vacuum of space) It resembles the vacuum of space but it is actually a memory.
26. Cosmic Awareness (His precognition was able to rival Zanza's even after Zanza became absent from his body) This is just Precognition not Cosmic Awareness.
Monado III
27. minus Immortality (Type 4) Should have lost this for Replica Monado.
28. minus Multiple Selves Already lost this for Replica Monado.
29. Enhanced Precognition is true but Able to see "All Possible Futures" on a Higher-Dimensional Omnipresent scale doesn't even make sense.
35. Memory Space itself exists beyond space and time and being capable of surviving universal resets) I don't know where the Idea of how resets work came from but it is definitely wrong.
36. Perception Manipulation (People in the new universe were unable to perceive other worlds, Shulk using The Monado 3 undid this) This is not the case in future connected you can't see any other worlds.
37. Memory Manipulation and Existence Erasure (Erased Zanza from History and with it, the memory of his existence vanished from everyone in the new world) This is just not true. In this cutscene Melia and Fiora quite obviously remember Zanza and I believe Shulk mentions him in Future Redeemed.
38.Possibly Body Puppetry, Power Mimicry and Absorption (Of Memories, Data, Soul and likely Information; Shulk as the possibly driver of Ontos should be capable of performing similar feats to the Master Drives as shown by Rex being stated to be able to do anything Amalthus can do as both are Master Drivers which would mean that Shulk can absorb Core Crystals and their contents like Amalthus, control any Blade and Titan by force and copy attacks such as when Amalthus copied Mythra's Sacred Arrow)
a. Anyone can become a blade eater, It's not a special ability of Amalthus.
b. Amalthus's ability to control blades and titans comes from haze's core crystal, not from his own power.
c. I don't think Amalthus copied Mythra's sacred arrow, I think he is just able to control Artifices.
39. Elemental Manipulation (Of previous elements plus, Water, Earth and Dark; Upscaled from Blades who can manipulate these elements through their use of Ether, The Monado is able to control all things through the use of ether which gives advanced users access to every form of Ether and can replicate all forms of it, this extends to even an individual basis as the bodies of the inhabitants of Shulk's world are composed of ether), Mind Manipulation (Upscaled from numerous foes who are able cause foes to mindlessly run around in circles or even take control of someone through the use of Control), Sleep Manipulation (Upscaled from Melia's use of ether), Death Manipulation (Upscaled from the numerous enemies and even allies who's use of ether can do this), Gravity Manipulation (Upscaled from Fiora's use of the Zero Gravity ether art), Limited Invulnerability (Upscaled from Sharla's ether art Shield Bullet which allows for the target to gain Damage Immunity), BFR (Upscaled from Melia's teleportation being shown to be able to teleport others), Purification (Type 3; Upscaled from Sharla's ether art Cure Bullet which cures the target of debuffs and grants them a temporary Immunity to them), Attack Reflection (Upscaled from Melia's use of the Reflection ether art), Corrosion Inducement (Upscaled from the Mechon's Ether based weapons that are corrosive and can deconstruct other beings), Body Puppetry (Ether can be used to force entities to move to the whims of the user), Corruption (Type 2), Animal Manipulation, Madness Manipulation (Type 2) and Transmutation (Upscaled from the rift which caused wild life to go mad and transform into fog beasts), Smoke Manipulation (Upscaled from Melia who is capable of generating smoke), Immortality Negation (Of Types 2, 3 - High-Godly; Concept and Information, 4, 6 and 8; Upscaled from N who as an ether based being was able to permanently kill Z, himself and M), Forcefield Creation (Upscaled from Melia's use of ether which can create barriers to protect herself and others), Teleportation (Upscaled from Zenobia's use of the wind element allows her to teleport), Absolute Zero (Upscaled from Jin who's use of the Ice element can reach Absolute Zero), Plant Manipulation (Upscaled from the Ponspecters whose use of ether causes plants to grow), Technology Manipulation (Ether can be used to control and power technology, this is shown by the ether in the High Entia Tomb), Resistance Negation (via Chain Attack; a team based attack which allows for Shulk to ignore enemy resistances and inflict status effects anyway), Explosion Manipulation (Upscaled from Sharla's ether shots which cause an explosion on hit), Holy Manipulation (The Monado III is described as a Holy Weapon which provides a massive boost in power, can control light, and produce Miracles), Resurrection (Upscaled from Nia's use of the water element which is capable of reviving the dead) "The Monado is able to control all things through the use of ether which gives advanced users access to every form of Ether and can replicate all forms of it" is not true The Control all things part is only true in xenoblade 1's universe because the universe is made out of ether. Shulk is never shown to be able to use any of these abilities and controlling ether does not necessarily mean he can do any specific thing with it.
Attack Potency
40. Monado II Low Complex Multiversal level (It's the same Monado that the Bionis used) The Monado's Strength is determined by the wielder and Shulk is not as good at using it as Zanza
41. Replica Monado Low Complex Multiversal level (Defeated Dickson, who previously killed him in his Monado 2 state) The logic here is circular. For Dickson it says Durability: Low Complex Multiverse level (Took the combined efforts of the entire party to defeat him) He has Low Complex Multiversal level durability because It hard for Shulk to defeat him and Shulk has Low Complex Multiversal level Attack Potency because he can beat dickson.
42. Future Connected Low Complex Multiversal level (Despite giving up his Godhood, he should still be comparable if not superior to his Replica Monado self) Shulk already had his own Monado when he was using the replica. That's why he was able to have Visions. He does not have a Monado in Future Connected.
43. Future Redeemed Low Complex Multiversal level (Should be superior to his Future Connected self due to being decades older, fought against Alpha) Same As Previous
Speed
44. Monado II Sub-Relativistic (Comparable to the Bionis, who can move at this speed) Why would shulk be able to move at the same speed as the Bionis? It's speed isn't really because of the monado's powers.
45. Replica Monado Massively FTL+ (Capable of fighting against Zanza who is superior to his creations of the Telethia which are capable of fighting against foes who are this fast), Higher with Monado Speed (The 40% speed boost from Monado Speed lets Shulk reach 300208.2c), likely Infinite (Able to keep up with the likes of Zanza who can keep up with the likes of Monado III Shulk). I'll address this in reverse order. First the speed of Ganglion Skells. Just because they got from one place to another quickly doesn't mean they are that fast especially because you never actually see them move even close to that fast in game. Given XCX's inspiration from Xenosaga I think it is far more likely that they have something akin to gate jumps. Secondly Xenoblade 1 and X are in different Universes. The Telethia in X is not necessarily the same as the Telethia in XC1. Thirdly Zanza might be able to create something that can move faster than him. Humans can make cars, but can't run as fast as them. Fourthly even if Zanza can move that fast he does not appear to during his fight with Shulk so he would not have to move that fast either. And Finally the Fight takes place in memory space So Shulk isn't even really moving at all.
46. Monado III At least Massively FTL+ (Matched Zanza's speed and is faster than before) see prior response ... likely Infinite (Comparable to the likes of Alvis who is comparable to Alpha, should be faster than his older self) will address this when I get to Alpha
47. Future Connected Massively FTL+, Higher with Monado Speed, likely Infinite (Should be just as fast as before) not just as fast as before because he lost his Monado. see 42
48. Future Redeemed Massively FTL+, Higher with Monado Speed, likely Infinite (Kept up with the likes of Alpha) Will address this when I get to Alpha
Lifting Strength
49. Monado II At least Class E (Wields the same sword as the Bionis did) Bionis is much bigger than Shulk see 20 and 40
59. All future Lifting strengths don't even have a reason the only one that might be right is Monado III
60. Striking Strength same explanations as attack potency
Durability
61. Monado II Low Complex Multiverse level (Comparable to Bionis) Shulk is not the Bionis see 20 40 and 49
62. Replica Monado Low Complex Multiverse level (Tanked blows from Dickson), for Dickson Low Complex Multiverse level (Was granted a powerful body by Zanza which granted his wish of wanting the power of a god, overpowered Shulk) for the first part That is just his body because he is a giant it was not granted by Zanza. The way he speaks about the power of a god, It is unclear whether he already has it or if he will be given it in the future. As for overpowering Shulk see 61
Stamina
63. Superhuman (Can run for entire days without tiring) When does this happen? If you are talking about gameplay that is just an abstraction he obviously actually has to stop. It's Just not shown in gameplay.
Range
64.Thousands of Kilometers (Can stretch the Monado II over 2000 kilometers long) If this is referencing the Bionis see 20 40 49 and 61
65. Thousands of Kilometers | Multiversal, likely Multiversal+, possibly Low Complex Multiversal | Thousands of Kilometers Not justified Don't see why this would be the case.
Intelligence
66. (Shulk is an intelligent tech savvy individual who was capable of mastering The Monado, something that skilled veterans such as Dunban (who is so skilled to the point where The Monado could not possess him like it did Arglas due his pure skill) Shulk is already possessed by Zanza so that is why he is able to wield the Monado and why He doesn't appear to be possessed because he already was.
For pages about blades I will separate it into these categories
a. Blades that are only ever shown to be used by 1 driver ex. Pandoria Poppi
b. Rare blades that can be used by any driver ex. Crossette
c. Blades that are shown to be used by a few specific drivers ex. Aegaeon
d. Blades that act on their own without a driver ex. Malos, Akhos, Patroka
e. Blades that don't clearly fit into one category or change categories ex. Nia, Jin Pyra/Mythra/Pneuma, Minoth, Haze, Brighid
for a. I think there should not be a page for the blade only for the driver. The page for the driver should have a section for each blade that they have ex. for Tora Poppi α | Poppi QT | Poppi QTπ
for b there should be a page just for the blade excluding any driver and the with blades and optional equipment section should be removed from all drivers. If it is necessary the blades could be given a different section for different driver ex. either With Rex | WIth Nia | With Mòrag | With Zeke or something like With Zeke | With other Drivers if they can do something different with specifically Zeke and not with other drivers. I think this method is good because it avoids having to Write every possible ability all of the Drivers could gain from any blade.
for c. I am leaning toward the same as a but doing the same thing as b could also work
for d Just make a page for that blade. If they also have a blade a section can be made with the blade ex. for Akhos WIth Obrona | Flesh Eater
Now for other unique blades
Nia Should should have her own page that uses the key With Dromarch/As a Driver | As a flesh eater | Queen of Agnus
Jin should each be on the page for Lora but should also have his own page.
Haze should Just be on the page for Lora
Minoth should just be on a page for Addam because he doesn't do any fighting
Pyra/Mythra/Pneuma should have their own page and be on the page for rex and for addam\
Brighid should be on the page for Hugo and Mòrag but should also have her own page because she is shown fighting on her own.
Blade Physiology
67. Immortality Type 4 (Non-Combat Applicable): After reverting to a Core Crystal, a Blade will eventually be reborn when a new Driver resonates with it Should be noted that eventually the blade will transform into a titan
68. Deconstruction: Blades can break down enemies[6] through their elemental attacks.[7] This even affects those who can swim in the Cloud Sea, which disassembles all matter it comes into contact with see 11
69.Matter Manipulation and Deconstruction: Blades can swim in the Cloud Sea, which disassembles all matter it comes into contact with. The cloud sea does not do that. It can disassemble matter but does not at the time of the game. totally normal leftherian kids can go in it and be ok.
70. Should add Damage Boost (Blade specials do more damage when the blade and Driver have Greater Affinity
Aegis
71.Summoning: Aegis Blades can summon their Sirens to fight with them[6] It is not Summoning. Siren already exists in the sky Mythra can tell it what to do but she is not summoning it.
73. Limited Regeneration (At least Low-Godly, possibly High-Godly): Can regenerate, albeit not completely, from total deconstruction.[6] A Core Crystal contains a Blade's information,[5] meaning Aegis Blades can regenerate from their information being destroyed. The Aegis Core Crystals contain information about all other blades. This includes the other Aegis. For Malos to regenerate his core crystal he had to take the information from Pyra's core.
74. Limited Inorganic Physiology (Type 2) this is true of ontos but not of Pneuma or Logos. Pneuma and Logos are directly analogous to The living elements Anima and Animus in Deus while Ontos is analogous to the Fluorine Element. Perfect Works page 71
75. Nonexistent Physiology (Type 1; Aspects 1, 3, and 4) The reason Malos is able to speak to Pnuma after he dies is because his data is still present in the Pneuma crystal.
76. Conventional Mind Manipulation: The Aegis comprise the three AIs that were used to control the Trinity Processor see 74
77.Biological Manipulation: Aegis Blades - as shown with Malos - can resonate with Core Crystals, which cause significant blood injuries to those who are unqualified,[2] along with being able to shrug off Nia's ability to[5] alter the replication rate of her target's cells. Having the aptitude to use a core crystal does not mean that you are resistant to Biological manipulation. As for Nia's Ability It clearly did significantly harm him he was just able to heal because now that he has his core crystal back he has blade regeneration.
78. Greater Deconstruction: Aegis Blades can withstand Siren beams, which deconstruct the target.[13] Siren beams are capable of affecting those who can swim in the Cloud Sea. Where does it say the Siren beams deconstruct the target? also see 69
79.Absolute Zero: Aegis Blades can withstand being in Jin's Absolute Zero. I don't think that it is actually absolute zero, they are just using it to mean very cold. If it was absolute zero the air around them would be solid.
80.Probability Manipulation: Aegis Blades are able to stay around Kasandra, who passively causes those around her to be incredibly unlucky,[9] with Kasandra also being able to unknowingly cause impossible situations that benefit her to occur.[9] see b. in the blade section
Powers and Abilities
81. The powers and abilities section should be changed to use the same key. I will note which abilities should be for as a driver or for as a blade. The blade section should say all previous plus her blade abilities I will just right that it is for Driver and it is implied that it is for both I will specifically note if there's any ability that she losses
82. Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Blade Physiology (Flesh Eater) Driver
83. Weapon Mastery (Can wield a number of weapons masterfully) Driver
84. Energy Projection (Able to shoot blasts of ether energy at her foes) Dromarch can when she is a driver Driver and she can as a Blade
85. Status Effect Inducement Not sure exactly what this is referring to? maybe her ability to inflict break. if so Driver
86. Damage Boost (Many of Nia's arts can deal increased damage) for Driver Should say Damage Boost (Gemini Loop does 50% more damage when attacking from the side) For Blade it should say
87. Healing (Nia can heal herself through her own arts such as Healing Halo)
88. Statistics Amplification (Nia is able to boost her own stats) Driver Dromarch has the blade art Accuracy Up which Increases accuracy.
89. Statistics Reduction (Nia is able to reduce her enemy's stats) Neither I looked through all of Nia's arts specials and Domarchs specials and Rex's arts with Nia and none of them have stat reductions
90. Probability Manipulation (Can increase her chance perform a critical hit, dodge , hit an opponent or increasing the chance of statuses going off) Neither see 14
Damage Transferal (Spike deals damages the enemy equal to how much Nia has been damaged) Neither see 17
91.Death Manipulation (Has a chance to instantly kill her opponent through the use of slayer skills) Neither I have no idea what "slayer skills" are supposed to be and I can't find anything that has a chance to instantly kill on Nia.
92. Water Manipulation (Nia is a water Flesh Eater) correct for Blade for driver should read Water Manipulation (Dromarch is a water blade)
93. Empathic Manipulation (Can increase or decrease how aggro her opponent is) Neither see 16
94. Durability Negation (Can use Arts that inflicts Pierce which ignores the enemy's defense) Blade Catalyst Scimitar artWater Flower has Pierce
95. Supernatural Luck and Limited Invulnerability (Through her Sore Loser skill which allows Nia to withstand an attack that would kill her and gives her invincibility for a short period of time) Not Supernatural Luck see 15
96. Biological Manipulation (Nia has control over the cell production and thus can use this to give people regeneration or inflate them) Blade
97. Life-Force Absorption (Can drain her opponent's life) Driver with Dromarch Special Raging Tiger Blade with Nia's Specials Last Hope and Divine Sword,
98. Resurrection (Revived Niall after he died) blade
99. Non-Physical Interaction (Can hit Addam's Phantasms, beings that are described as ghosts and likely share the physiology with Xenoblade 1's Nebulas ) Neither Link does not work it links to the very end of the video and I looked through the phantasm cutscenes and did it was not mentioned that they were ghosts. Additionally, everyone in the party can fight them. They don't act non physical.
Xenoblade 3
100. I agree will now only mention abilities that I disagree with
101. Should have minus Statistics Amplification Only Has this because of Dromarch
102. Should restate Durability Negation because there is a new reason for it (Nia's art Last Hope and Talent Art Divine Sword have Pierce)
103. Creation (Is capable of generating Ouroboros Stones) She did not make the physical material that the stones are made out of, she just gave them the Ouroboros Power https://youtu.be/UnuRO8WfZWc?t=40676
104. Purification (Type 2; Freed her people from the influence of the Flame Clocks) I don't really think this counts as purification
105. Accelerated Development (Passive: Physical Stats and Abilities, As Nia is capable of generating Ouroboros Stones, she should be comparable to other Ouroboros which have shown to gain strength in reaction to both a strong opponent and to their own emotions as shown by Matthew responding to his emotions to save Na'el and Nikol and Glimmer responding to facing Shulk and Rex in battle), Mind Manipulation (Ouroboros energy has been shown capable of separating one's conscience from their body as shown by Ghondor doing so to Alpha), Invulnerability Negation (Ouroboros power is capable of breaking through Alpha's Future Sight as stated by A during their fight with Alpha with Alpha's Vision Mode granting him invulnerability) Because Nia describes the process of creating the stones as catalysis https://youtu.be/UnuRO8WfZWc?t=40676 that means that what she is doing is just making it easier for The ouroboros power to combine with the origin metal not actually generating the power herself.
106. Probability Manipulation (Can increase her chance to hit an opponent, guarantee herself to dodge an attack, raise her critical hit rate, etc through the use of Accessories or lower her opponent's chances of all the above) and Probability Manipulation Negation (The Chaotic Memory accessory allows for Nia to bypass opponent's use of shields and evasion even to the point of it being guaranteed) see 14
107. Empathic Manipulation (Numerous Accessories allow for Nia to change how aggro her opponent are towards her) see 16
108.Statistics Amplification (Of Strength, Speed, Durability and Vitality; Accessories allow for Nia to boost these aspects of her) "Statistics Amplification is when a character raises their parameters in the middle of a fight" Accessories Are not and can not be equipped in the middle of a fight.
109. Healing (Accessories allow Nia to heal herself for tasks as simple as moving) Why mention accessories instead of all of the arts and skills that she has should read Healing (Nia has many Arts and Skills that Heal herself and her allies)
110. Statistics Reduction (Of Strength/Ether, Speed, Durability and Vitality; Accessories allow for Nia to reduce these aspects of her foes) There are not Accessories that reduce enemy stats
111. Passive Damage Transferal (Through the use of equipment such as the Ultimate Counter Ether Gem which deals damage to those who damage Nia by up to 2.8x) see 17
112. Damage Reduction (Numerous accessories reduce the damage that Nia takes) should read Damage Reduction (Nia has the skill Abundant Oceans Which Reduces damage to allies by 11-15%)
113. Non-Physical Interaction (Capable of interacting with Z who is a concept) Z is the Physical manifestation of a concept.
Attack Potency
114. Driver At least Island Level, possibly Multi-Continent Level (Fought Brighid multiple times, comparable to Rex) In the first against Brighid by herself she is significantly weaker because Mòrag is far away and she still beat Rex and Nia Fairly easily . In the first fight against Mòrag and Brighid Even the entire party together was clearly significantly weaker than them in a straight fight and they needed to use the water tower. Additionally rex is doing more of the fighting than Nia is . The second time they fight Mòrag and Brighid Rex and Mythra/pyra are Clearly doing almost all of the fighting.
115. Blade Low Complex Multiverse level (Fought and damaged True Form Jin and Artifice Aion) Against Jin Rex is clearly the one doing most of the actual fighting before pneuma awakened Rex and Nia could barely fight Jin and he does not appear to be hurt barely at all. Against Artifice Aion Rex is the only one who is ever seen harming it at all Nia is just healing the other party members.
116. Queen of Agnus Low Complex Multiverse level (Fought against Z, stronger than before) For Z There were a ton of other characters fighting him and it is not clear that anything they were doing was significantly harming him given that N and M had to sacrifice themselves, for stronger than before see 115.
Speed
117, Driver At least Relativistic+, likely Speed of Light (Consistently able to keep up with Mythra and Malos) for Mythra At least Relativistic+, likely Speed of Light (Mythra uses natural light to attack, stated to move at light speed, and Pyra herself could keep up with Brighid, who was Mythra's rival) Mythra does not use natural light she used ether with the light element which is different from light. Jin directly states that it is too heavy to move at the speed of light. The description of Photon Edge is fairly obviously an exaggeration. If she could already move at the speed of light she would be able to beat jin without transforming into Pneuma
118. Blade Massively FTL+, likely Infinite (Kept up with True Form Jin and Artifice Aion) In the first fight with Jin they are clearly losing before Pneuma awakens and after that Rex and Pneuma do literally all of the fighting. Aion Is never shown to move very fast at all; it stays in place the entire battle.
119. Xc3 Massively FTL+, likely Infinite (Should be faster than before) see 118
120. Lifting Strength I think it is reasonable to say At least Average Human
121. Striking Strength see answers for attack potency
122. Durability see answers for attack potency also a lot of her perceived Durability can be attributed to Her Healing
125. Range: Extended Melee with weapons, Thousands of Kilometers with Elemental Manipulation and Ether Cannons (Ether energy has been shown to be capable of reaching these distances) Just because ether energy generally can reach that far does not mean that Nia specifically can. I don't think twin rings are long enough to be extended melee but the Catalyst Scimitar is. I would guess that the range of nia's ether should be Several Meters. The full thing should Read Range: Standard Melee with Twin Rings, Several Meters with Ether | Extended Melee with Catalyst Scimitar, Several Meters with Ether | Extended Melee with the Anima Sword, Several Meters with Ether
126. A "There is no single established future. You should know that better than anyone, Shulk" ~ A, to Shulk, regarding what she knows about Visions and Shulk's rejection of godhood Should change She to they or A because A is Implied to be Non-Binary and Is not referred to with she/her Pronouns
127. Alvis is later revealed that he is not only the creator of Shulk's world but also the administrative computer on Klaus's experiment which makes him one of the three Aegis Blades alongside Logos and Pneuma. It is not clear that Alvis is a blade or an Aegis. Logos and Pneuma were modified by Klaus and that is what allowed them to be awakened as blades.
128. Gender Should Change A from Inapplicable to Unknown Should Specify What Pronouns they use. For Alvis and Alpha should add (Uses He/Him Pronouns) For A should add (Is never referred to by 3rd Person Pronouns)
129. Alpha Age: Unknown (His Core existed in Klaus's Universe before the creation of a new one, and has lived through Zanza's countless cycle of destruction and recreation) should say Unknown (The ontos core was reawakened within Aionios)
130. A Age: Unknown (The Ontos core has existed since Klaus' universe) Should say Age: Unknown (Was separated from Alpha during the destruction of the city)
131. Alvis Classification: Homs (Seemingly), Computer Data Core, The True Monado should change The True Monado to Just Monado https://youtu.be/NACYKHV6pDg?t=35
132. Alpha Classification: Aegis Blade, Computer Data Core, The True Monado, God Should remove Aegis Blade see 127 and The True Monado Should add Heartless Machine
133. A Classification: "City Survivor", Aegis Blade, Conscience, Ouroboros should remove Aegis Blade see 127 and Ouroboros Their Iris Does not have the Ouroboros Ring. Should Change Conscience to Alpha's Conscience.
134. Blade Physiology (Aegis) see 127
135. Omniscience there isn't evidence for this
136. A Weapon Mastery Alvis and Alpha Should Also have this.
137. Alvis Immortality (Type 9; The Alvis we see is merely an avatar with his true self being apart of another dimension) and Immortality Alpha/A (Types 6, and 9; The Monado that Shulk uses is stated to be one and the same with Zanza by Egil which Zanza confirms by referring to himself as The Monado and Alpha's/A's form is merely an Avatar of the world) Should not have type 6 The Monado that Shulk uses is not relevant I suspect this was copy pasted from his Page Type 9 might be true for Alvis but is definitely not true for A and Alpha
138. A/Alpha Regeneration (High Godly - Concept and Information; As a fellow Aegis Blade, A/Alpha should have similar regeneration to Malos, should also upscale from the ether based being N who is both stated and shown to be capable of surviving a Homecoming which is noted by N himself to permanently kill someone by extinguishing their flame which is a person's soul, N and M's spiritual form has been noted by M to embody the same desire as Z who is a living concept) for Aegis Blade see 127 Unclear why It would Upscale from N. What homecoming does is just removing someone from the cycle. They are not killed permanently because they can still come back when the worlds separate again and someone's flame being snuffed out is just a metaphor for death. The only clear instance of one of them regeneration is Alpha's Core getting cracked by N's Sword of the end.
139. Alvis Acausality (Type 1, 2 and 4; Exists outside the Passage of Fate like Shulk) and A Acausality (Type 1, 2 and 4; A should scale to their previous self) see 6
140. A Alpha Perception Manipulation see 2
141. Alvis Supernatural Luck (Has an Unbeatable ether gem which allows for Alvis to survive normally fatal attacks) see 15
142. Alvis Omnipresence there isn't evidence for this
143. Non-Physical Interaction (The Monado was shown to be capable of interacting with ether based beings such as Nebulae and even souls as shown with Zanza's battle with Meyneth)/Non-Physical Interaction (Capable of interacting with Alpha, Z and Fog Beasts) Not clear that these things are nonphysical. Many different characters can fight them and they don't act like it is unusual that they can.
144.Alvis Summoning (Can Summon Telethia and can likely summon his own Artifices) see 71
145. Alpha Clairvoyance (Able to use Visions to see the future along with other possibilities, has access to Zanza's Monado which is stated by Zanza himself to grant those visions with these visions being capable of affecting those with Acausality (Types 2 and 4) as evident by Shulk using said visions on himself) and A Clairvoyance (Has access to Visions which allows for A to see the many futures with their own perception slowing down to where if time had stopped, this can affect even Acausality (Type 2 and 4) users as shown by Shulk being capable of seeing his own future even when other users such as Hom's Alvis couldn't do the same) Can't affect acausality this is another case of something being copy pasted when it shouldn't be. see 5
146. Elemental Manipulation (Of Fire, Water, Wind, Lightning, Ice, Earth, Light and Dark; Upscaled from Blades who can manipulate these elements through their use of Ether, The Monado is able to control all things through the use of ether which gives advanced users access to every form of Ether and can replicate all forms of it, this extends to even an individual basis as the bodies of the inhabitants of Shulk's world are composed of ether), Mind Manipulation (Upscaled from numerous foes who are able cause foes to mindlessly run around in circles or even take control of someone through the use of Control, his words to Na'el left her in a trance like state), BFR (Upscaled from Melia's teleportation being shown to be able to teleport others), Sleep Manipulation (Upscaled from Melia's use of ether), Smoke Manipulation (Upscaled from Melia who is capable of generating smoke), Death Manipulation (Upscaled from the numerous enemies and even allies who's use of ether can do this), Gravity Manipulation (Upscaled from Fiora's use of the Zero Gravity ether art), Memory Manipulation and Law Manipulation (Scales from Lucky Seven which was used by Noah to restore the memories of Miyabi and co by overwriting the precepts set by Z with Lucky Seven as a shard of Origin getting it's abilities due to being based on Ontos' core), Purification (Type 3; Upscaled from Sharla's ether art Cure Bullet which cures the target of debuffs and grants them a temporary Immunity to them), Attack Reflection (Upscaled from Melia's use of the Reflection ether art), Corrosion Inducement (Upscaled from the Mechon's Ether based weapons that are corrosive and can deconstruct other beings), Body Puppetry (Ether can be used to force entities to move to the whims of the user), Absolute Zero (Upscaled from Jin who's use of the Ice element can reach Absolute Zero), Plant Manipulation (Upscaled from the Ponspecters whose use of ether causes plants to grow), Explosion Manipulation (Upscaled from Sharla's ether shots which cause an explosion on hit), Resurrection (Upscaled from Nia's use of the water element which is capable of reviving the dead), see 39
147. Alvis Empathic Manipulation (Upscaled from the Aggro Ether Gems which allow for the user to manipulate how aggro their opponent is) Alpha Empathic Manipulation (Upscaled from the Aggro Ether Gems which allow for the user to manipulate how aggro their opponent is) A Empathic Manipulation (Numerous Accessories allow for A to change how aggro her opponent are towards them) see 16
148. Poison Manipulation (Via the Poison Attack ether gem allowing for the user to poison enemies on hit), Life Force Absorption (Via the HP Steal Ether gem which allows for the user to steal vitality when damaging an opponent) None of them can equip ether gems
149. Alvis Immortality Negation (Of Types 2, 3 - High-Godly; Concept and Information, 4, 5, 6 and 8; Alvis's later self Alpha's erasure of the world would have ended Moebius which would include the likes of N and Z) Alpha Immortality Negation (Of Types 2, 3 - High-Godly; Concept and Information, 4, 5, 6 and 8; Alpha's erasure of the world would have ended Moebius which would include the likes of N and Z) Z comes from the people in origin's fears of the future and Z's immortality is Reliant on the people in origin fearing the future. If Alpha were to succeed at his plan It would kill the people in origin and Z that would be removing the thing is Immortality is conditional on not bypassing it.
150. Immortality Negation (Of Types 2, 3 - High-Godly; Concept and Information, 4, 5, 6 and 8; Upscaled from N who as an ether based being was able to permanently kill himself, Z and M) Why would A have a power that N has. N is able to kill Z because he embodies the same desire as Z. A does not.
151. Damage Transferal (Alvis's use of The Conduit caused the creation of ether and thus he should have access to abilities related to Ether; Alpha should also be capable of replicating the effects of spike which should allow him to be able of inflicting Sleep, Bind, Stats Down, Paralysis and Instant Death through his use of Spike) Firstly see 39 secondly Spike can't inflict any of those it just makes the enemy take damage. see 17
152. Perception Manipulation (People in the new universe were unable to perceive other worlds, Shulk using the Monado III undid this) see 36
153. Can grant Acausality (Type 1, 2 and 4: Alvis is responsible for Shulk escaping the Passage of Fate) see 6
154. Alvis and Alpha Incorporeality (Ether beings such as Alpha, in order to hit ether beings you must match their ether concentration, this extends to even a conceptual level as Melia was unable to interact with the Fog King even with her own ether attacks despite the same attacks being capable of interacting and damaging Z who is a concept with the potency of which being capable of increasing over time as shown by the Fog King increasing it's ether concentration to surpass the Telethia's ether fields) This is just true of the Fog King not all "Ether Beings" what even is an ether being.
155. Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1: Shulk used the Monado III to severed the threads of fate so that everyone can choose their own future) not an abstract concept.
156. Memory Manipulation and Existence Erasure (Shulk used the Monado III to erase Zanza and the memory of his existence, would have erased the Xenoblade 3 universe if not stopped) see 37 and destroying Aionios only requires killing all the people in origin not actually erasing it see 149
157. A Memory Manipulation and Law Manipulation (Scales from Lucky Seven which was used by Noah to restore the memories of Miyabi and co by overwriting the precepts set by Z with Lucky Seven as a shard of Origin getting it's abilities due to being based on Ontos' core) Lucky seven is outside of the flow it does not follow Z's precepts but it does not overwrite them. Override not overwrite. Also A does not have all of the abilities of the Ontos Core.
158. Reality Warping (The Monado is capable of controlling Ether and by controlling Ether it can make it's wielder's will reality) A should not have this. They do not have all of Ontos's abilities.
159. A Pocket Reality Manipulation (Ontos created and has control over Memory Space) Ontos does but A does not.
There Are plenty of other things that I think are wrong but I am going to take a break for now.
Also if I want to create a new page how should I go about it? Do I need to make a post about it first or can I just go and make it?
If anybody asks I will provide more evidence for any of the points I made.
Xeno (Series)
-2. the page should be renamed to Xenoblade. The only reference to Xenosaga or Xenogears is saying that "Xenoblade (Otherwise known as Xenoblade Chronicles) is the spiritual successor to Xenosaga and Xenogears" separate pages can be made for Xenogears and Xenosaga.-1. Xenoblade X should be removed from the page and moved to its own page. It is an entirely separate universe that is not connected to the numbered games and plenty of things about the universe are significantly different.
0. There are 2 speed feats that I disagree with.
a. Shulk and Alvis drift from Saturn to the Moon in about a minute (80.505658c, FTL+) This is in memory space, not in our real solar system. It is Alvis showing Shulk a representation of what the solar system looked like. His physical body is not moving at all.
b. Ganglion Skells cross the Samaar Federation (214434.43c, Massively FTL+) just because they can get from one place to another in a certain amount of time does not necessarily mean they can move that fast. GIven Xenoblade X's inspiration from Xenosaga I would say that it is more likely that they have something similar to the gates from Xenosaga.
Shulk
Powers and AbilitiesMonado I
1. Immortality (Limited Type 4 plus Type 6 though The Monado): These are zanza's abilities not Shulk's. Zanza can possess other people but that is not true of Shulk he is just one of Zanza's Vessels and will not survive if Zanza chooses a new one.
2. Perception Manipulation Should be Passive perception Manipulation (Only on self)
3. Shulk's life is protected by Alvis who wishes for him to replace Zanza as the new God which has allowed for Shulk to survive fatal wounds. I'm not exactly sure what him surviving fatal wounds is referring to, but at this point it is Zanza who is protecting him and wants him to survive, not Alvis.
4. I understand Precognition but why is it passive? If it's the times when he knows what will happen in the future without a vision that does not happen with the Monado I. If it is him getting the visions without actively choosing to have them that is still not true. Shulk is not choosing to have the visions but Zanza is choosing to show them to him.
5.this (visions) can affect even Acausality (Type 2 and 4) users as shown by Shulk being capable of seeing his own future even when other users such as Hom's Alvis couldn't do the same) Shulk can't see his own future either. The visions he see's are visions of what will happen if he does not do anything. He does not always do the same things that he is shown doing in visions.
6.Acausality (Type 1, 2 and 4; Shulk's existence is described as a fluctuation, existing outside the results of predictions of the future. This would later be fully explained as him existing outside of the Passage of Fate which explains how how was able to save people who were destined to die and change the Passage of Fate, which acts as the Multiverse's Causality System existing beyond it's space-time axis. Was unable to be seen through the precognition of Alvis while in his Homs form Shulk existing outside the passage of fate just means that his future is not predetermined not that he is somehow acausal.
7. and was capable of retaining his memories of Zanza after the universal reset which wiped the memories of his existence. What is this talking about?
8. Blessed (Protection; Is protected by Alvis and his use of the Passage of Fate so that he can become the new God. Zanza who is currently the one "Blessing" him not Alvis. This is not true yet.
9. Limited Heat Manipulation (The Monado emits large amounts of heat which has shown to be capable of melting the armour of characters such as Metal Face, this would make the heat produced by The Monado superior to the heat that an ether river produces as other faced Mechon such as Xord were able to survive prolonged contact in one) The way the Monado harmed metal face was not heat. Also Shulk can hold the Monado fine.
10. Regeneration (At least Low-Mid, likely far higher For The Monado; The Monado that Zanza used was shown to be in perfect condition even after being cut in half) Regeneration is the ability to heal from wounds at an accelerated rate. How is that Regeneration?
11. Deconstruction (Blade weapons such as The Monado are shown to be capable of disintegrating foes though basic attackI s this even includes those who can swim in the cloud sea which breaks down matter it comes into contact with) This happens because monsters disintegrate when they die, Not because of the abilities of any specific weapon.
12. Biological Absorption and Power Absorption (Monado Eater consumes its target along with any buffs they had) Can't get Monado eater with Monado I
13.Passive Fate Manipulation (Shulk is the new god that Alvis uses the Passage of Fate for as so a new universe can be created, this would mean that nothing can befall Shulk that would make him unable to replace Zanza and create a new universe which is shown by Metal Face not killing Shulk in Colony 9 for The Monado despite the fact that Metal Face desperately wanted The Monado and events can happens to benefit Shulk such as when Xord's body suddenly was unable to pump enough blood which forced him to retreat, this binds even Acausality (Type 2 and 4) users as shown by Zanza's use of the Passage of Fate preventing Shulk from saving The Emperor as explained by Alvis) I don't know precisely how to explain it but the Idea the Shulk just magically can't be harmed at all just because Alvis wants that is just not the case.
14. Probability Manipulation (Can increase his chances of setting off statuses, performing a critical hit, landing a hit on his opponent, etc) This is not Probability Manipulation. If I get a sharper sword I increase the chance that someone I hit will die. That's not manipulating probability.
15. Durability Negation (Via Bleed Attack, which can make others bleed through attacks even when said attacks are unable to do so prior and can make others bleed when they couldn't normally can't conventionally) Bleed does 20% of the damage of the art that caused the status https://xenoblade.fandom.com/wiki/Bleed_(XC1). If the opponent is stronger the bleed will do less damage it is not negating durability.
15. Supernatural Luck (Via Unbeatable Gem, which can allow Shulk to survive a normally fatal blow with 1 HP) This is not at all related to luck.
16. Social Influencing, Limited Empathic Manipulation (Via Shadow Eye and ether gems allowing for Shulk to increase or decrease how aggro opponents are to Shulk) Shadow eye makes Shulk harder to see and therefore he is attacked less. He is not manipulating the enemy.
17. Passive Damage Transferal (Via Spike Gems allow the user to send back the exact same damage they took to the attacker, allowing both parties to be equally damaged) This is not Passive Damage Transferal. Spike is exactly what it sounds like. It's making it so making contact with you harms whoever did like having spikes on yourself.
18. Possesion, Body Puppetry, Pain Manipulation and Enhanced Electricity Manipulation (Via The Monado which has shown to possess those who attempt to wield it such as Arglas or control people such as Dunban, Dunban's exposure to The Monado also caused him to be wrapped in electricity that caused him to lose the use of his right arm permanently and Shulk's exposure caused him to be enveloped with an indescribable pain) This is Zanza's ability not Shulks.
Monado II
All previous apply except 12
19. Sealing (The Monado was used by A to damage and seal Fog Rifts which are rifts in space-time Shulk does not necessarily have abilities A does and it's not clear A was the one who did the sealing.
20. Immortality Negation (Type 3 - Up to Low Godly; Upscales from The Bionis as Shulk uses the same Monado that The Bionis used) Shulk does not necessarily have abilities that Zanza/The Bions have and i don't think it's clear that the mechonis regenerates.
Replica Monado
All previous apply except 3, 8, 12
21. minus Regeneration Negation never stated to have Regeneration Negation
22. Fear Manipulation (His presence caused Dickson; who is a person who has been in many wars and has seen comparable/superior characters and has never felt fear before in his life, to shake in fear) Dickson is afraid because Shulk is the first person who Is able to harm him not because Shulk manipulated him to be afraid.
23. Immortality Negation (Type 3 - Up to Low Mid; Is able to effortlessly kill Telethia who previously was stated by Shulk himself to have too potent of a regeneration) He doesn't stop them from regenerating to beat them though.
24. Awakened Power (Gained a sudden burst in power when motivated by his friends which allowed him to surpass and defeat Dickson who previously was getting bored from their fight) The awakened power is the Monado III..
25. Self-Sustenance (Type 1; Can breathe in Memory Space which is stated to resemble the vacuum of space) It resembles the vacuum of space but it is actually a memory.
26. Cosmic Awareness (His precognition was able to rival Zanza's even after Zanza became absent from his body) This is just Precognition not Cosmic Awareness.
Monado III
27. minus Immortality (Type 4) Should have lost this for Replica Monado.
28. minus Multiple Selves Already lost this for Replica Monado.
29. Enhanced Precognition is true but Able to see "All Possible Futures" on a Higher-Dimensional Omnipresent scale doesn't even make sense.
35. Memory Space itself exists beyond space and time and being capable of surviving universal resets) I don't know where the Idea of how resets work came from but it is definitely wrong.
36. Perception Manipulation (People in the new universe were unable to perceive other worlds, Shulk using The Monado 3 undid this) This is not the case in future connected you can't see any other worlds.
37. Memory Manipulation and Existence Erasure (Erased Zanza from History and with it, the memory of his existence vanished from everyone in the new world) This is just not true. In this cutscene Melia and Fiora quite obviously remember Zanza and I believe Shulk mentions him in Future Redeemed.
38.Possibly Body Puppetry, Power Mimicry and Absorption (Of Memories, Data, Soul and likely Information; Shulk as the possibly driver of Ontos should be capable of performing similar feats to the Master Drives as shown by Rex being stated to be able to do anything Amalthus can do as both are Master Drivers which would mean that Shulk can absorb Core Crystals and their contents like Amalthus, control any Blade and Titan by force and copy attacks such as when Amalthus copied Mythra's Sacred Arrow)
a. Anyone can become a blade eater, It's not a special ability of Amalthus.
b. Amalthus's ability to control blades and titans comes from haze's core crystal, not from his own power.
c. I don't think Amalthus copied Mythra's sacred arrow, I think he is just able to control Artifices.
39. Elemental Manipulation (Of previous elements plus, Water, Earth and Dark; Upscaled from Blades who can manipulate these elements through their use of Ether, The Monado is able to control all things through the use of ether which gives advanced users access to every form of Ether and can replicate all forms of it, this extends to even an individual basis as the bodies of the inhabitants of Shulk's world are composed of ether), Mind Manipulation (Upscaled from numerous foes who are able cause foes to mindlessly run around in circles or even take control of someone through the use of Control), Sleep Manipulation (Upscaled from Melia's use of ether), Death Manipulation (Upscaled from the numerous enemies and even allies who's use of ether can do this), Gravity Manipulation (Upscaled from Fiora's use of the Zero Gravity ether art), Limited Invulnerability (Upscaled from Sharla's ether art Shield Bullet which allows for the target to gain Damage Immunity), BFR (Upscaled from Melia's teleportation being shown to be able to teleport others), Purification (Type 3; Upscaled from Sharla's ether art Cure Bullet which cures the target of debuffs and grants them a temporary Immunity to them), Attack Reflection (Upscaled from Melia's use of the Reflection ether art), Corrosion Inducement (Upscaled from the Mechon's Ether based weapons that are corrosive and can deconstruct other beings), Body Puppetry (Ether can be used to force entities to move to the whims of the user), Corruption (Type 2), Animal Manipulation, Madness Manipulation (Type 2) and Transmutation (Upscaled from the rift which caused wild life to go mad and transform into fog beasts), Smoke Manipulation (Upscaled from Melia who is capable of generating smoke), Immortality Negation (Of Types 2, 3 - High-Godly; Concept and Information, 4, 6 and 8; Upscaled from N who as an ether based being was able to permanently kill Z, himself and M), Forcefield Creation (Upscaled from Melia's use of ether which can create barriers to protect herself and others), Teleportation (Upscaled from Zenobia's use of the wind element allows her to teleport), Absolute Zero (Upscaled from Jin who's use of the Ice element can reach Absolute Zero), Plant Manipulation (Upscaled from the Ponspecters whose use of ether causes plants to grow), Technology Manipulation (Ether can be used to control and power technology, this is shown by the ether in the High Entia Tomb), Resistance Negation (via Chain Attack; a team based attack which allows for Shulk to ignore enemy resistances and inflict status effects anyway), Explosion Manipulation (Upscaled from Sharla's ether shots which cause an explosion on hit), Holy Manipulation (The Monado III is described as a Holy Weapon which provides a massive boost in power, can control light, and produce Miracles), Resurrection (Upscaled from Nia's use of the water element which is capable of reviving the dead) "The Monado is able to control all things through the use of ether which gives advanced users access to every form of Ether and can replicate all forms of it" is not true The Control all things part is only true in xenoblade 1's universe because the universe is made out of ether. Shulk is never shown to be able to use any of these abilities and controlling ether does not necessarily mean he can do any specific thing with it.
Attack Potency
40. Monado II Low Complex Multiversal level (It's the same Monado that the Bionis used) The Monado's Strength is determined by the wielder and Shulk is not as good at using it as Zanza
41. Replica Monado Low Complex Multiversal level (Defeated Dickson, who previously killed him in his Monado 2 state) The logic here is circular. For Dickson it says Durability: Low Complex Multiverse level (Took the combined efforts of the entire party to defeat him) He has Low Complex Multiversal level durability because It hard for Shulk to defeat him and Shulk has Low Complex Multiversal level Attack Potency because he can beat dickson.
42. Future Connected Low Complex Multiversal level (Despite giving up his Godhood, he should still be comparable if not superior to his Replica Monado self) Shulk already had his own Monado when he was using the replica. That's why he was able to have Visions. He does not have a Monado in Future Connected.
43. Future Redeemed Low Complex Multiversal level (Should be superior to his Future Connected self due to being decades older, fought against Alpha) Same As Previous
Speed
44. Monado II Sub-Relativistic (Comparable to the Bionis, who can move at this speed) Why would shulk be able to move at the same speed as the Bionis? It's speed isn't really because of the monado's powers.
45. Replica Monado Massively FTL+ (Capable of fighting against Zanza who is superior to his creations of the Telethia which are capable of fighting against foes who are this fast), Higher with Monado Speed (The 40% speed boost from Monado Speed lets Shulk reach 300208.2c), likely Infinite (Able to keep up with the likes of Zanza who can keep up with the likes of Monado III Shulk). I'll address this in reverse order. First the speed of Ganglion Skells. Just because they got from one place to another quickly doesn't mean they are that fast especially because you never actually see them move even close to that fast in game. Given XCX's inspiration from Xenosaga I think it is far more likely that they have something akin to gate jumps. Secondly Xenoblade 1 and X are in different Universes. The Telethia in X is not necessarily the same as the Telethia in XC1. Thirdly Zanza might be able to create something that can move faster than him. Humans can make cars, but can't run as fast as them. Fourthly even if Zanza can move that fast he does not appear to during his fight with Shulk so he would not have to move that fast either. And Finally the Fight takes place in memory space So Shulk isn't even really moving at all.
46. Monado III At least Massively FTL+ (Matched Zanza's speed and is faster than before) see prior response ... likely Infinite (Comparable to the likes of Alvis who is comparable to Alpha, should be faster than his older self) will address this when I get to Alpha
47. Future Connected Massively FTL+, Higher with Monado Speed, likely Infinite (Should be just as fast as before) not just as fast as before because he lost his Monado. see 42
48. Future Redeemed Massively FTL+, Higher with Monado Speed, likely Infinite (Kept up with the likes of Alpha) Will address this when I get to Alpha
Lifting Strength
49. Monado II At least Class E (Wields the same sword as the Bionis did) Bionis is much bigger than Shulk see 20 and 40
59. All future Lifting strengths don't even have a reason the only one that might be right is Monado III
60. Striking Strength same explanations as attack potency
Durability
61. Monado II Low Complex Multiverse level (Comparable to Bionis) Shulk is not the Bionis see 20 40 and 49
62. Replica Monado Low Complex Multiverse level (Tanked blows from Dickson), for Dickson Low Complex Multiverse level (Was granted a powerful body by Zanza which granted his wish of wanting the power of a god, overpowered Shulk) for the first part That is just his body because he is a giant it was not granted by Zanza. The way he speaks about the power of a god, It is unclear whether he already has it or if he will be given it in the future. As for overpowering Shulk see 61
Stamina
63. Superhuman (Can run for entire days without tiring) When does this happen? If you are talking about gameplay that is just an abstraction he obviously actually has to stop. It's Just not shown in gameplay.
Range
64.Thousands of Kilometers (Can stretch the Monado II over 2000 kilometers long) If this is referencing the Bionis see 20 40 49 and 61
65. Thousands of Kilometers | Multiversal, likely Multiversal+, possibly Low Complex Multiversal | Thousands of Kilometers Not justified Don't see why this would be the case.
Intelligence
66. (Shulk is an intelligent tech savvy individual who was capable of mastering The Monado, something that skilled veterans such as Dunban (who is so skilled to the point where The Monado could not possess him like it did Arglas due his pure skill) Shulk is already possessed by Zanza so that is why he is able to wield the Monado and why He doesn't appear to be possessed because he already was.
Blades
This will talk about the page Blade Physiology as well as how I think pages about blade should be organizedFor pages about blades I will separate it into these categories
a. Blades that are only ever shown to be used by 1 driver ex. Pandoria Poppi
b. Rare blades that can be used by any driver ex. Crossette
c. Blades that are shown to be used by a few specific drivers ex. Aegaeon
d. Blades that act on their own without a driver ex. Malos, Akhos, Patroka
e. Blades that don't clearly fit into one category or change categories ex. Nia, Jin Pyra/Mythra/Pneuma, Minoth, Haze, Brighid
for a. I think there should not be a page for the blade only for the driver. The page for the driver should have a section for each blade that they have ex. for Tora Poppi α | Poppi QT | Poppi QTπ
for b there should be a page just for the blade excluding any driver and the with blades and optional equipment section should be removed from all drivers. If it is necessary the blades could be given a different section for different driver ex. either With Rex | WIth Nia | With Mòrag | With Zeke or something like With Zeke | With other Drivers if they can do something different with specifically Zeke and not with other drivers. I think this method is good because it avoids having to Write every possible ability all of the Drivers could gain from any blade.
for c. I am leaning toward the same as a but doing the same thing as b could also work
for d Just make a page for that blade. If they also have a blade a section can be made with the blade ex. for Akhos WIth Obrona | Flesh Eater
Now for other unique blades
Nia Should should have her own page that uses the key With Dromarch/As a Driver | As a flesh eater | Queen of Agnus
Jin should each be on the page for Lora but should also have his own page.
Haze should Just be on the page for Lora
Minoth should just be on a page for Addam because he doesn't do any fighting
Pyra/Mythra/Pneuma should have their own page and be on the page for rex and for addam\
Brighid should be on the page for Hugo and Mòrag but should also have her own page because she is shown fighting on her own.
Blade Physiology
67. Immortality Type 4 (Non-Combat Applicable): After reverting to a Core Crystal, a Blade will eventually be reborn when a new Driver resonates with it Should be noted that eventually the blade will transform into a titan
68. Deconstruction: Blades can break down enemies[6] through their elemental attacks.[7] This even affects those who can swim in the Cloud Sea, which disassembles all matter it comes into contact with see 11
69.Matter Manipulation and Deconstruction: Blades can swim in the Cloud Sea, which disassembles all matter it comes into contact with. The cloud sea does not do that. It can disassemble matter but does not at the time of the game. totally normal leftherian kids can go in it and be ok.
70. Should add Damage Boost (Blade specials do more damage when the blade and Driver have Greater Affinity
Aegis
71.Summoning: Aegis Blades can summon their Sirens to fight with them[6] It is not Summoning. Siren already exists in the sky Mythra can tell it what to do but she is not summoning it.
73. Limited Regeneration (At least Low-Godly, possibly High-Godly): Can regenerate, albeit not completely, from total deconstruction.[6] A Core Crystal contains a Blade's information,[5] meaning Aegis Blades can regenerate from their information being destroyed. The Aegis Core Crystals contain information about all other blades. This includes the other Aegis. For Malos to regenerate his core crystal he had to take the information from Pyra's core.
74. Limited Inorganic Physiology (Type 2) this is true of ontos but not of Pneuma or Logos. Pneuma and Logos are directly analogous to The living elements Anima and Animus in Deus while Ontos is analogous to the Fluorine Element. Perfect Works page 71
75. Nonexistent Physiology (Type 1; Aspects 1, 3, and 4) The reason Malos is able to speak to Pnuma after he dies is because his data is still present in the Pneuma crystal.
76. Conventional Mind Manipulation: The Aegis comprise the three AIs that were used to control the Trinity Processor see 74
77.Biological Manipulation: Aegis Blades - as shown with Malos - can resonate with Core Crystals, which cause significant blood injuries to those who are unqualified,[2] along with being able to shrug off Nia's ability to[5] alter the replication rate of her target's cells. Having the aptitude to use a core crystal does not mean that you are resistant to Biological manipulation. As for Nia's Ability It clearly did significantly harm him he was just able to heal because now that he has his core crystal back he has blade regeneration.
78. Greater Deconstruction: Aegis Blades can withstand Siren beams, which deconstruct the target.[13] Siren beams are capable of affecting those who can swim in the Cloud Sea. Where does it say the Siren beams deconstruct the target? also see 69
79.Absolute Zero: Aegis Blades can withstand being in Jin's Absolute Zero. I don't think that it is actually absolute zero, they are just using it to mean very cold. If it was absolute zero the air around them would be solid.
80.Probability Manipulation: Aegis Blades are able to stay around Kasandra, who passively causes those around her to be incredibly unlucky,[9] with Kasandra also being able to unknowingly cause impossible situations that benefit her to occur.[9] see b. in the blade section
Nia
I don't know precisely what Early/Mid-Game and Late/End-Game refer to but I will treat it as As a Driver | As a Blade | Queen of Agnus and I think it should be changed to this to be more clearPowers and Abilities
81. The powers and abilities section should be changed to use the same key. I will note which abilities should be for as a driver or for as a blade. The blade section should say all previous plus her blade abilities I will just right that it is for Driver and it is implied that it is for both I will specifically note if there's any ability that she losses
82. Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Blade Physiology (Flesh Eater) Driver
83. Weapon Mastery (Can wield a number of weapons masterfully) Driver
84. Energy Projection (Able to shoot blasts of ether energy at her foes) Dromarch can when she is a driver Driver and she can as a Blade
85. Status Effect Inducement Not sure exactly what this is referring to? maybe her ability to inflict break. if so Driver
86. Damage Boost (Many of Nia's arts can deal increased damage) for Driver Should say Damage Boost (Gemini Loop does 50% more damage when attacking from the side) For Blade it should say
87. Healing (Nia can heal herself through her own arts such as Healing Halo)
88. Statistics Amplification (Nia is able to boost her own stats) Driver Dromarch has the blade art Accuracy Up which Increases accuracy.
89. Statistics Reduction (Nia is able to reduce her enemy's stats) Neither I looked through all of Nia's arts specials and Domarchs specials and Rex's arts with Nia and none of them have stat reductions
90. Probability Manipulation (Can increase her chance perform a critical hit, dodge , hit an opponent or increasing the chance of statuses going off) Neither see 14
Damage Transferal (Spike deals damages the enemy equal to how much Nia has been damaged) Neither see 17
91.Death Manipulation (Has a chance to instantly kill her opponent through the use of slayer skills) Neither I have no idea what "slayer skills" are supposed to be and I can't find anything that has a chance to instantly kill on Nia.
92. Water Manipulation (Nia is a water Flesh Eater) correct for Blade for driver should read Water Manipulation (Dromarch is a water blade)
93. Empathic Manipulation (Can increase or decrease how aggro her opponent is) Neither see 16
94. Durability Negation (Can use Arts that inflicts Pierce which ignores the enemy's defense) Blade Catalyst Scimitar artWater Flower has Pierce
95. Supernatural Luck and Limited Invulnerability (Through her Sore Loser skill which allows Nia to withstand an attack that would kill her and gives her invincibility for a short period of time) Not Supernatural Luck see 15
96. Biological Manipulation (Nia has control over the cell production and thus can use this to give people regeneration or inflate them) Blade
97. Life-Force Absorption (Can drain her opponent's life) Driver with Dromarch Special Raging Tiger Blade with Nia's Specials Last Hope and Divine Sword,
98. Resurrection (Revived Niall after he died) blade
99. Non-Physical Interaction (Can hit Addam's Phantasms, beings that are described as ghosts and likely share the physiology with Xenoblade 1's Nebulas ) Neither Link does not work it links to the very end of the video and I looked through the phantasm cutscenes and did it was not mentioned that they were ghosts. Additionally, everyone in the party can fight them. They don't act non physical.
Xenoblade 3
100. I agree will now only mention abilities that I disagree with
101. Should have minus Statistics Amplification Only Has this because of Dromarch
102. Should restate Durability Negation because there is a new reason for it (Nia's art Last Hope and Talent Art Divine Sword have Pierce)
103. Creation (Is capable of generating Ouroboros Stones) She did not make the physical material that the stones are made out of, she just gave them the Ouroboros Power https://youtu.be/UnuRO8WfZWc?t=40676
104. Purification (Type 2; Freed her people from the influence of the Flame Clocks) I don't really think this counts as purification
105. Accelerated Development (Passive: Physical Stats and Abilities, As Nia is capable of generating Ouroboros Stones, she should be comparable to other Ouroboros which have shown to gain strength in reaction to both a strong opponent and to their own emotions as shown by Matthew responding to his emotions to save Na'el and Nikol and Glimmer responding to facing Shulk and Rex in battle), Mind Manipulation (Ouroboros energy has been shown capable of separating one's conscience from their body as shown by Ghondor doing so to Alpha), Invulnerability Negation (Ouroboros power is capable of breaking through Alpha's Future Sight as stated by A during their fight with Alpha with Alpha's Vision Mode granting him invulnerability) Because Nia describes the process of creating the stones as catalysis https://youtu.be/UnuRO8WfZWc?t=40676 that means that what she is doing is just making it easier for The ouroboros power to combine with the origin metal not actually generating the power herself.
106. Probability Manipulation (Can increase her chance to hit an opponent, guarantee herself to dodge an attack, raise her critical hit rate, etc through the use of Accessories or lower her opponent's chances of all the above) and Probability Manipulation Negation (The Chaotic Memory accessory allows for Nia to bypass opponent's use of shields and evasion even to the point of it being guaranteed) see 14
107. Empathic Manipulation (Numerous Accessories allow for Nia to change how aggro her opponent are towards her) see 16
108.Statistics Amplification (Of Strength, Speed, Durability and Vitality; Accessories allow for Nia to boost these aspects of her) "Statistics Amplification is when a character raises their parameters in the middle of a fight" Accessories Are not and can not be equipped in the middle of a fight.
109. Healing (Accessories allow Nia to heal herself for tasks as simple as moving) Why mention accessories instead of all of the arts and skills that she has should read Healing (Nia has many Arts and Skills that Heal herself and her allies)
110. Statistics Reduction (Of Strength/Ether, Speed, Durability and Vitality; Accessories allow for Nia to reduce these aspects of her foes) There are not Accessories that reduce enemy stats
111. Passive Damage Transferal (Through the use of equipment such as the Ultimate Counter Ether Gem which deals damage to those who damage Nia by up to 2.8x) see 17
112. Damage Reduction (Numerous accessories reduce the damage that Nia takes) should read Damage Reduction (Nia has the skill Abundant Oceans Which Reduces damage to allies by 11-15%)
113. Non-Physical Interaction (Capable of interacting with Z who is a concept) Z is the Physical manifestation of a concept.
Attack Potency
114. Driver At least Island Level, possibly Multi-Continent Level (Fought Brighid multiple times, comparable to Rex) In the first against Brighid by herself she is significantly weaker because Mòrag is far away and she still beat Rex and Nia Fairly easily . In the first fight against Mòrag and Brighid Even the entire party together was clearly significantly weaker than them in a straight fight and they needed to use the water tower. Additionally rex is doing more of the fighting than Nia is . The second time they fight Mòrag and Brighid Rex and Mythra/pyra are Clearly doing almost all of the fighting.
115. Blade Low Complex Multiverse level (Fought and damaged True Form Jin and Artifice Aion) Against Jin Rex is clearly the one doing most of the actual fighting before pneuma awakened Rex and Nia could barely fight Jin and he does not appear to be hurt barely at all. Against Artifice Aion Rex is the only one who is ever seen harming it at all Nia is just healing the other party members.
116. Queen of Agnus Low Complex Multiverse level (Fought against Z, stronger than before) For Z There were a ton of other characters fighting him and it is not clear that anything they were doing was significantly harming him given that N and M had to sacrifice themselves, for stronger than before see 115.
Speed
117, Driver At least Relativistic+, likely Speed of Light (Consistently able to keep up with Mythra and Malos) for Mythra At least Relativistic+, likely Speed of Light (Mythra uses natural light to attack, stated to move at light speed, and Pyra herself could keep up with Brighid, who was Mythra's rival) Mythra does not use natural light she used ether with the light element which is different from light. Jin directly states that it is too heavy to move at the speed of light. The description of Photon Edge is fairly obviously an exaggeration. If she could already move at the speed of light she would be able to beat jin without transforming into Pneuma
118. Blade Massively FTL+, likely Infinite (Kept up with True Form Jin and Artifice Aion) In the first fight with Jin they are clearly losing before Pneuma awakens and after that Rex and Pneuma do literally all of the fighting. Aion Is never shown to move very fast at all; it stays in place the entire battle.
119. Xc3 Massively FTL+, likely Infinite (Should be faster than before) see 118
120. Lifting Strength I think it is reasonable to say At least Average Human
121. Striking Strength see answers for attack potency
122. Durability see answers for attack potency also a lot of her perceived Durability can be attributed to Her Healing
125. Range: Extended Melee with weapons, Thousands of Kilometers with Elemental Manipulation and Ether Cannons (Ether energy has been shown to be capable of reaching these distances) Just because ether energy generally can reach that far does not mean that Nia specifically can. I don't think twin rings are long enough to be extended melee but the Catalyst Scimitar is. I would guess that the range of nia's ether should be Several Meters. The full thing should Read Range: Standard Melee with Twin Rings, Several Meters with Ether | Extended Melee with Catalyst Scimitar, Several Meters with Ether | Extended Melee with the Anima Sword, Several Meters with Ether
Alvis/Alpha/A
I am combining these characters because they have similar abilities. If a change I suggest is about only 1 or 2 of them I will say who it is about If I don't say it is about everyone.126. A "There is no single established future. You should know that better than anyone, Shulk" ~ A, to Shulk, regarding what she knows about Visions and Shulk's rejection of godhood Should change She to they or A because A is Implied to be Non-Binary and Is not referred to with she/her Pronouns
127. Alvis is later revealed that he is not only the creator of Shulk's world but also the administrative computer on Klaus's experiment which makes him one of the three Aegis Blades alongside Logos and Pneuma. It is not clear that Alvis is a blade or an Aegis. Logos and Pneuma were modified by Klaus and that is what allowed them to be awakened as blades.
128. Gender Should Change A from Inapplicable to Unknown Should Specify What Pronouns they use. For Alvis and Alpha should add (Uses He/Him Pronouns) For A should add (Is never referred to by 3rd Person Pronouns)
129. Alpha Age: Unknown (His Core existed in Klaus's Universe before the creation of a new one, and has lived through Zanza's countless cycle of destruction and recreation) should say Unknown (The ontos core was reawakened within Aionios)
130. A Age: Unknown (The Ontos core has existed since Klaus' universe) Should say Age: Unknown (Was separated from Alpha during the destruction of the city)
131. Alvis Classification: Homs (Seemingly), Computer Data Core, The True Monado should change The True Monado to Just Monado https://youtu.be/NACYKHV6pDg?t=35
132. Alpha Classification: Aegis Blade, Computer Data Core, The True Monado, God Should remove Aegis Blade see 127 and The True Monado Should add Heartless Machine
133. A Classification: "City Survivor", Aegis Blade, Conscience, Ouroboros should remove Aegis Blade see 127 and Ouroboros Their Iris Does not have the Ouroboros Ring. Should Change Conscience to Alpha's Conscience.
134. Blade Physiology (Aegis) see 127
135. Omniscience there isn't evidence for this
136. A Weapon Mastery Alvis and Alpha Should Also have this.
137. Alvis Immortality (Type 9; The Alvis we see is merely an avatar with his true self being apart of another dimension) and Immortality Alpha/A (Types 6, and 9; The Monado that Shulk uses is stated to be one and the same with Zanza by Egil which Zanza confirms by referring to himself as The Monado and Alpha's/A's form is merely an Avatar of the world) Should not have type 6 The Monado that Shulk uses is not relevant I suspect this was copy pasted from his Page Type 9 might be true for Alvis but is definitely not true for A and Alpha
138. A/Alpha Regeneration (High Godly - Concept and Information; As a fellow Aegis Blade, A/Alpha should have similar regeneration to Malos, should also upscale from the ether based being N who is both stated and shown to be capable of surviving a Homecoming which is noted by N himself to permanently kill someone by extinguishing their flame which is a person's soul, N and M's spiritual form has been noted by M to embody the same desire as Z who is a living concept) for Aegis Blade see 127 Unclear why It would Upscale from N. What homecoming does is just removing someone from the cycle. They are not killed permanently because they can still come back when the worlds separate again and someone's flame being snuffed out is just a metaphor for death. The only clear instance of one of them regeneration is Alpha's Core getting cracked by N's Sword of the end.
139. Alvis Acausality (Type 1, 2 and 4; Exists outside the Passage of Fate like Shulk) and A Acausality (Type 1, 2 and 4; A should scale to their previous self) see 6
140. A Alpha Perception Manipulation see 2
141. Alvis Supernatural Luck (Has an Unbeatable ether gem which allows for Alvis to survive normally fatal attacks) see 15
142. Alvis Omnipresence there isn't evidence for this
143. Non-Physical Interaction (The Monado was shown to be capable of interacting with ether based beings such as Nebulae and even souls as shown with Zanza's battle with Meyneth)/Non-Physical Interaction (Capable of interacting with Alpha, Z and Fog Beasts) Not clear that these things are nonphysical. Many different characters can fight them and they don't act like it is unusual that they can.
144.Alvis Summoning (Can Summon Telethia and can likely summon his own Artifices) see 71
145. Alpha Clairvoyance (Able to use Visions to see the future along with other possibilities, has access to Zanza's Monado which is stated by Zanza himself to grant those visions with these visions being capable of affecting those with Acausality (Types 2 and 4) as evident by Shulk using said visions on himself) and A Clairvoyance (Has access to Visions which allows for A to see the many futures with their own perception slowing down to where if time had stopped, this can affect even Acausality (Type 2 and 4) users as shown by Shulk being capable of seeing his own future even when other users such as Hom's Alvis couldn't do the same) Can't affect acausality this is another case of something being copy pasted when it shouldn't be. see 5
146. Elemental Manipulation (Of Fire, Water, Wind, Lightning, Ice, Earth, Light and Dark; Upscaled from Blades who can manipulate these elements through their use of Ether, The Monado is able to control all things through the use of ether which gives advanced users access to every form of Ether and can replicate all forms of it, this extends to even an individual basis as the bodies of the inhabitants of Shulk's world are composed of ether), Mind Manipulation (Upscaled from numerous foes who are able cause foes to mindlessly run around in circles or even take control of someone through the use of Control, his words to Na'el left her in a trance like state), BFR (Upscaled from Melia's teleportation being shown to be able to teleport others), Sleep Manipulation (Upscaled from Melia's use of ether), Smoke Manipulation (Upscaled from Melia who is capable of generating smoke), Death Manipulation (Upscaled from the numerous enemies and even allies who's use of ether can do this), Gravity Manipulation (Upscaled from Fiora's use of the Zero Gravity ether art), Memory Manipulation and Law Manipulation (Scales from Lucky Seven which was used by Noah to restore the memories of Miyabi and co by overwriting the precepts set by Z with Lucky Seven as a shard of Origin getting it's abilities due to being based on Ontos' core), Purification (Type 3; Upscaled from Sharla's ether art Cure Bullet which cures the target of debuffs and grants them a temporary Immunity to them), Attack Reflection (Upscaled from Melia's use of the Reflection ether art), Corrosion Inducement (Upscaled from the Mechon's Ether based weapons that are corrosive and can deconstruct other beings), Body Puppetry (Ether can be used to force entities to move to the whims of the user), Absolute Zero (Upscaled from Jin who's use of the Ice element can reach Absolute Zero), Plant Manipulation (Upscaled from the Ponspecters whose use of ether causes plants to grow), Explosion Manipulation (Upscaled from Sharla's ether shots which cause an explosion on hit), Resurrection (Upscaled from Nia's use of the water element which is capable of reviving the dead), see 39
147. Alvis Empathic Manipulation (Upscaled from the Aggro Ether Gems which allow for the user to manipulate how aggro their opponent is) Alpha Empathic Manipulation (Upscaled from the Aggro Ether Gems which allow for the user to manipulate how aggro their opponent is) A Empathic Manipulation (Numerous Accessories allow for A to change how aggro her opponent are towards them) see 16
148. Poison Manipulation (Via the Poison Attack ether gem allowing for the user to poison enemies on hit), Life Force Absorption (Via the HP Steal Ether gem which allows for the user to steal vitality when damaging an opponent) None of them can equip ether gems
149. Alvis Immortality Negation (Of Types 2, 3 - High-Godly; Concept and Information, 4, 5, 6 and 8; Alvis's later self Alpha's erasure of the world would have ended Moebius which would include the likes of N and Z) Alpha Immortality Negation (Of Types 2, 3 - High-Godly; Concept and Information, 4, 5, 6 and 8; Alpha's erasure of the world would have ended Moebius which would include the likes of N and Z) Z comes from the people in origin's fears of the future and Z's immortality is Reliant on the people in origin fearing the future. If Alpha were to succeed at his plan It would kill the people in origin and Z that would be removing the thing is Immortality is conditional on not bypassing it.
150. Immortality Negation (Of Types 2, 3 - High-Godly; Concept and Information, 4, 5, 6 and 8; Upscaled from N who as an ether based being was able to permanently kill himself, Z and M) Why would A have a power that N has. N is able to kill Z because he embodies the same desire as Z. A does not.
151. Damage Transferal (Alvis's use of The Conduit caused the creation of ether and thus he should have access to abilities related to Ether; Alpha should also be capable of replicating the effects of spike which should allow him to be able of inflicting Sleep, Bind, Stats Down, Paralysis and Instant Death through his use of Spike) Firstly see 39 secondly Spike can't inflict any of those it just makes the enemy take damage. see 17
152. Perception Manipulation (People in the new universe were unable to perceive other worlds, Shulk using the Monado III undid this) see 36
153. Can grant Acausality (Type 1, 2 and 4: Alvis is responsible for Shulk escaping the Passage of Fate) see 6
154. Alvis and Alpha Incorporeality (Ether beings such as Alpha, in order to hit ether beings you must match their ether concentration, this extends to even a conceptual level as Melia was unable to interact with the Fog King even with her own ether attacks despite the same attacks being capable of interacting and damaging Z who is a concept with the potency of which being capable of increasing over time as shown by the Fog King increasing it's ether concentration to surpass the Telethia's ether fields) This is just true of the Fog King not all "Ether Beings" what even is an ether being.
155. Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1: Shulk used the Monado III to severed the threads of fate so that everyone can choose their own future) not an abstract concept.
156. Memory Manipulation and Existence Erasure (Shulk used the Monado III to erase Zanza and the memory of his existence, would have erased the Xenoblade 3 universe if not stopped) see 37 and destroying Aionios only requires killing all the people in origin not actually erasing it see 149
157. A Memory Manipulation and Law Manipulation (Scales from Lucky Seven which was used by Noah to restore the memories of Miyabi and co by overwriting the precepts set by Z with Lucky Seven as a shard of Origin getting it's abilities due to being based on Ontos' core) Lucky seven is outside of the flow it does not follow Z's precepts but it does not overwrite them. Override not overwrite. Also A does not have all of the abilities of the Ontos Core.
158. Reality Warping (The Monado is capable of controlling Ether and by controlling Ether it can make it's wielder's will reality) A should not have this. They do not have all of Ontos's abilities.
159. A Pocket Reality Manipulation (Ontos created and has control over Memory Space) Ontos does but A does not.
There Are plenty of other things that I think are wrong but I am going to take a break for now.
Also if I want to create a new page how should I go about it? Do I need to make a post about it first or can I just go and make it?
If anybody asks I will provide more evidence for any of the points I made.
