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he is indeed a shovel knight dev, since both are the same verse.
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Shovel Knight 2-C
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but seriously if it's literally 100% confirmed that it's canon, then it's canon. Inconsistencies in stuff like that that just exist to spice up the boss fight are what's going to be ignored, not the canonicity.
You're not really making a good case for why throwing out the entire crossover is more valid than just throwing out the impossible parts.
What's confirmed by statement is that canon Kratos fought canon shovel knight, the exact details of what we see in the game are not as important.
You're not really making a good case for why throwing out the entire crossover is more valid than just throwing out the impossible parts.
What's confirmed by statement is that canon Kratos fought canon shovel knight, the exact details of what we see in the game are not as important.
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Alright would you say you're knowledgeable on SK or GoW?
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If SK gets no upgrade in ap, would he get the resistances at least?
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never touched anything god of war related in my entire life
I am however somewhat knowledgeable on shovel knight and have played it many times....minus king of cards.
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oh **** shovel knight dig and pocket dungeon exist ****
uhhhh
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Neutral, leaning on agree with C. Else, B would be a good option.
Honestly though, the PlayStation AllStars stuff for Kratos is clearer than this, since it's both said to be canon by devs at some point and actually referenced in-game.
But since devs insist this is canon then I dunno what to say.
Honestly though, the PlayStation AllStars stuff for Kratos is clearer than this, since it's both said to be canon by devs at some point and actually referenced in-game.
But since devs insist this is canon then I dunno what to say.
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I agree with flat-out 2-C
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So, Neutral, leaning towards agree on C and agree with B?
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Shhhhhh, we ain't ready for that yet.
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Yeah, for know. At least until someone clarifies the rules here cause I'm very skeptical myself.
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That's dumb. You're implying that evidence doesn’t matter and basically WOG can just overpower any kind of proof. In order for the canon to work in the first place, then the story beats need to make sense.
You guys are pushing an upgrade despite ignoring the context of important story elements. Y'all don't seem to care on how little sense these wog statements make, instead you’re quick to be like "Oh pog! An upgrade!"
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Would't we need to fuse bothe verse pages if this pass?
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Nah, at the end of the day they're separate series, they're just canon to eachother
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But, huh, i still want a mention of both in both verse pages then!!!!
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Probably not in GoW's verse page, but there will be a major mention in SK's verse page
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vs wiki user when author says "it's canon it's canon it's canon it's canon it's canon it's canon it's canon it's canon it's canon" and then gets the response of "but you used the wrong weapons by accident, NOT CANON!
but again, you still haven't proved that what is very obviously just a regular old plot hole would be more valid to accept as what was intended than the multiple word of god statements that is contradicts.
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It's the literal definition of death of the author dude. If twitter statements were that important, then why isn’t it shown in the story?
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Well the author isn’t dead, so we don’t have to worry about confirmed something that’s been confirmed already.
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You don't know what death of the author means. I'm not debating with someone of your level of intelligence. Staff that accept this are wankers. Not sorry.
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Bruh
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Worst case scenario, it's an outlier, but it's still canon to the storyline.
Either way, SK Kratos goes. Poof. Bye-Bye. He either gets an SK key where he is essentially his Norse self or he gets merged with his Norse key with a pretty-looking SK artwork render in the tabbers.
Either way, SK Kratos goes. Poof. Bye-Bye. He either gets an SK key where he is essentially his Norse self or he gets merged with his Norse key with a pretty-looking SK artwork render in the tabbers.
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what is sk's most consistent depiction of scale
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Tier 8 lmfao
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Wasn't he like 7-C for a little while?
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That was an earthquake that doesn't exactly scale. I could probably get Plague Knight's bombs and shit vaping solid Bedrock calced to be higher
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There used to be a 7-B calc from the Enchantress, but got removed from scaling to physicals via ED standards. Then I think it later got removed outright and no one knows why. Think no proof she actually caused the storm or something.
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Anyway I agree with 2-C due to being confirmed a canonical crossover, and also cuz I just love the idea of a guy with a shovel being unironically put in 2-C matches
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So uh, DDM, what's you're take on this?
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I am going to remain neutral, I'm just worried what kind of reaction from other higher up staff is going to be.
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Well why don't you call them here, get the bloodbath started early, I'll add you to Neutral for everything
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@KingTempest @LordTracer @CrimsonStarFallen @DarkGrath @Moritzva @LordGriffin1000 @Qawsedf234 @Celestial_Pegasus @SamanPatou @Abstractions @Colonel_Krukov @Starter_Pack @GyroNutz Your opinion on this would be appreciated as well
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Option A (considering the connection between both verses as canon but defining the feats as outliers) makes the most sense in my opinion.
A verse who consistently only has Tier 8 feats shouldn't be upgraded to 2-C because of one in-game fight, our explanation for what outliers are explicitly mention the idea of situations where feats that completely contradict the narrative of the verse's scaling and (or) story, or provide an increase in tier that's exponentially greater than everything else that's shown or stated, aren't considered to be viable for scaling because of the inconsistent and contradictory nature of them.
If there were more statements or feats that imply a Tier 2 level of power then I'd be fine with the scaling, but since this seemingly doesn't exist and is instead only supported by this one fight, I don't agree with considering these feats as usable.
A verse who consistently only has Tier 8 feats shouldn't be upgraded to 2-C because of one in-game fight, our explanation for what outliers are explicitly mention the idea of situations where feats that completely contradict the narrative of the verse's scaling and (or) story, or provide an increase in tier that's exponentially greater than everything else that's shown or stated, aren't considered to be viable for scaling because of the inconsistent and contradictory nature of them.
If there were more statements or feats that imply a Tier 2 level of power then I'd be fine with the scaling, but since this seemingly doesn't exist and is instead only supported by this one fight, I don't agree with considering these feats as usable.
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And what is your opinion on axing the SK profile for Kratos and merging it with canon since the new information makes it impossible for it to be separate from the canon profile? Which would effectively make SK Kratos effectively a budget Norse Kratos? Or would you rather it be merged with Norse Kratos' key since they're effectively the same at this point?
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Axing the profile and merging it with the canon one seems fine, I currently don't have any problems with that.
I can't really comment on at what point you would merge the profiles since I'm not knowledgeable on either verse. So I'll let more knowledgeable people handle that end, I just wanted to comment my disagreement with the 2-C scaling.
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SK Kratos would be merged with canon Kratos and here is what it'll be like:
An SK key where Kratos is basically Norse Kratos, Innate powers (Demigod and Norse), Resistances (Demigod, GoW and Norse) and All, but none of his Norse equipment (That includes the Leviathan Axe, Draupnir Spear, the Shields, Weapon Handles, Runes, Enchantments, Talismans, Amulets, Berserker Hilts and then some).
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