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Shinza banshou discussion thread~Revival~

Masada is working on Avesta game, which I think is a visual novel (but I hope it's a mobile game)

Masada: アヴェスターのゲーム作業があるため、アーディティヤ本編の更新は３週置きになることが今後もあります。申し訳ありませんがお許しください。

Machine Translation: Due to the work on the Avesta game, updates to the main Aditya will continue to be every 3 weeks or so. We apologize and hope you will forgive us.

 
I really wish for this visual novel to be translated into english, I even prefer its translation to the translation of the light novel
 
Infera28 said:
I really wish for this visual novel to be translated into english, I even prefer its translation to the translation of the light novel
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it is a visual novel and not mobile game, and of course it will not be translated anytime soon
I really do not understand what other work he needs to do to avesta, he has all the scenarios already, its the CGI guys that should do the rest, unless he wants to add stuffs to it
 
One of the main reasons I want the visual novel to be released is that we will have more official images of the top tier waifus in Avesta
 
PrinceofPein said:
it is a visual novel and not mobile game, and of course it will not be translated anytime soon
I really do not understand what other work he needs to do to avesta, he has all the scenarios already, its the CGI guys that should do the rest, unless he wants to add stuffs to it
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He's making alternate storylines as well. He isn't just creating a 1:1 copy of the Light Novel
 
He should also give a different organization to the story, especially the dialogues, and prepare the story to become a visual novel. Even movies have screenwriters who change the story of the book. Masada must also oversee the designs
 
Infera28 said:
He should also give a different organization to the story, especially the dialogues, and prepare the story to become a visual novel. Even movies have screenwriters who change the story of the book. Masada must also oversee the designs
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Yeah, things are definitely going to be different in the VN than in the LN.
 
Can't believe I have to bring this up again, but here it is:

瞬間、だらりと腕を下げた悪路の首に、宗次郎の斬気が真っ芯で命中した。
At that moment, Sojirou's zanki hit Akuro's neck with a straight center hit.

「効かんよ。(穢土)われらの(太極)ことわりを舐めるな」
"A useless move. Do not look down on our (Edo) law (Taikyoku)."

「―――――ッ」
"-----."

　なのに無傷。まったく無傷。薄皮一枚切り裂けない。それは紫織の拳を受け止めたときと同様で、頑強さと言うより別位相の物理を目にしたかのようだった。
And yet unharmed. Completely unharmed. Not even a thin layer of skin was torn off. It was the same as when he received Shiori's fist, and it was as if I had witnessed another phase of physics rather than robustness.

　喩えるなら、絵の中でどれだけ猛火を描写しようと、それが現実の人間を燃やせるわけがないのと同じ。
To use a metaphor, no matter how fierce a fire is depicted in a painting, it cannot burn a real person.

　立っている場所がそもそも違うという断絶感。
A sense of disconnection, of being in a different place to begin with.

　そして、絵に現実は害せなくても、現実が絵を破壊することは容易に出来る。
And even if the picture cannot harm reality, reality can easily destroy the picture.

　高次元から低次元への攻撃は、赤子の手を捻るよりも通しやすい。
An attack from a higher dimension to a lower dimension is easier to carry through than twisting a baby's hand.
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First thing is that it's metaphorical. It's saying that the feeling of hitting Akuro was almost as if he was in another phase in physics. It's clearly not being literal because Akuro is not some higher dimensional being without taikyoku. It even uses phrases of "as if" or "to use a metaphor" (the kanji even mentions metaphor iirc).

The time armor guards Akuro so effectively that it's almost as if Akuro is a higher dimensional being.
 
Tarang123 said:
Can't believe I have to bring this up again, but here it is:


First thing is that it's metaphorical. It's saying that the feeling of hitting Akuro was almost as if he was in another phase in physics. It's clearly not being literal because Akuro is not some higher dimensional being without taikyoku. It even uses phrases of "as if" or "to use a metaphor" (the kanji even mentions metaphor iirc).

The time armor guards Akuro so effectively that it's almost as if Akuro is a higher dimensional being.
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I do not think anyone is arguing for this again, at least no one said it was literal or argued against the blog about it
Rakih_Elyan said:
Bruh, what happened to the CRT thread?
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agreed for it to be closed since shinza is already agreed to be back on the wiki, making a staff thread next, no more derailings or people joining the bandwagons for the CRT for their tiers
 
Rakih_Elyan said:
Shinza 1-A is legit bruh, the entire series even have scan for this shit.
I even wonder, how the hell Shinza even have High 1-A tier?
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Well Ultima said he sees the possiblity for 1-A, DT also the same but the derailing did not allow us get anywhere, so maybe in the next thread
 
Deum colit su novio."

This is a melee. A three-way battle. It is inevitable, then, that the one who is outnumbered will be immediately targeted by the other two.

"Aurea Mediocritas"

"9th SS Armored Division."

Considering the nature of their relationship, it is only natural that they should be able to work in unison and infallibly. The two divine powers, released at the same time, overtook the universe of the moment with equal and terrible power.

The stars of the known worlds were destroyed.

The stars of the known worlds are all aligned in a vast cross. A grand cross of extreme scale was formed by interfering even in multidimensional parallel universes.
It was a tidal wave caused by a drastic change in tidal force, in other words, bodily fluids were instantly agitated, resulting in a deadly boil.
 
I don't understand how the discussion in that thread happened to be derailing. Proper tiering was one of the most important reasons to accept Shinza's return or not. A large part of the blog was about tiering. Both DT and Ultima agreed to discuss tiering in the same thread. All posts in the thread were about tiering

Anyway, contrary to what it seems, I'm not looking for lowballing Shinza, I was one of the people in Yuri's threads who tried the hardest to prove that Shinza is 1-A or even high 1-A. I myself believe that Shinza is 1-A, if this were Discord or Instagram, I would agree that Shinza is 1-A. The thing is, no matter what argument or evidence we use to prove 1-A Shinza in vsbattles, it's not enough for vsbattles standards. We really tried all the possible things, but in the end, people like mods opposed them. In this community, creating and transcending all laws, concepts and dualities does not mean transcending all their expansions and it is 5D or 6D at best (In my opinion transcending concept of space is always 1-A tho). Even a statement like "transcending anything and everything" and "disconnected from all things in creation" and "creating dualities" is not enough. You can somehow prove that there are infinite phases in the universe and phase was used once for the difference between dimensions, but even that is not enough for vsbattles and you need something clearer and more consistent, something consistently and directly stating dimensions not phases or layers that can be used for multiple different things

The reason why I said in that thread that Shinza is Low 1-C is because I know that the possibility of 1-A Shinza being accepted in vsbattles is almost zero. I myself can prepare dozens arguments and proofs to prove that Shinza is 1-A, similar to what I did in Yuri's thread, but I know it won't be accepted. If you want, just tell me and I will prepare as many evidence as possible for 1-A Shinza again, but I promise it won't be accepted. Know when to give up

In the same thread, it was said that the dimensions in Paradise Lost are not spatial, and evidence was not given that the difference between each dimension is infinite. So why do you think that 1-B Shinza will be accepted or it will stay in vsbattles for a long time? What I see is that we have to choose between Low 1-C Shinza and no Shinza, and my choice is the former. I retired from fictional debating months ago, but I still want Shinza's presence in vsbattles
 
Infera28 said:
I don't understand how the discussion in that thread happened to be derailing. Proper tiering was one of the most important reasons to accept Shinza's return or not. A large part of the blog was about tiering. Both DT and Ultima agreed to discuss tiering in the same thread. All posts in the thread were about tiering

Anyway, contrary to what it seems, I'm not looking for lowballing Shinza, I was one of the people in Yuri's threads who tried the hardest to prove that Shinza is 1-A or even high 1-A. I myself believe that Shinza is 1-A, if this were Discord or Instagram, I would agree that Shinza is 1-A. The thing is, no matter what argument or evidence we use to prove 1-A Shinza in vsbattles, it's not enough for vsbattles standards. We really tried all the possible things, but in the end, people like mods opposed them. In this community, creating and transcending all laws, concepts and dualities does not mean transcending all their expansions and it is 5D or 6D at best (In my opinion transcending concept of space is always 1-A tho). Even a statement like "transcending anything and everything" and "disconnected from all things in creation" and "creating dualities" is not enough. You can somehow prove that there are infinite phases in the universe and phase was used once for the difference between dimensions, but even that is not enough for vsbattles and you need something clearer and more consistent, something consistently and directly stating dimensions not phases or layers that can be used for multiple different things

The reason why I said in that thread that Shinza is Low 1-C is because I know that the possibility of 1-A Shinza being accepted in vsbattles is almost zero. I myself can prepare dozens arguments and proofs to prove that Shinza is 1-A, similar to what I did in Yuri's thread, but I know it won't be accepted. If you want, just tell me and I will prepare as many evidence as possible for 1-A Shinza again, but I promise it won't be accepted. Know when to give up

In the same thread, it was said that the dimensions in Paradise Lost are not spatial, and evidence was not given that the difference between each dimension is infinite. So why do you think that 1-B Shinza will be accepted or it will stay in vsbattles for a long time? What I see is that we have to choose between Low 1-C Shinza and no Shinza, and my choice is the former. I retired from fictional debating months ago, but I still want Shinza's presence in vsbattles
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I think you misunderstand this, it is not choosing between low 1-C shinza or no shinza.
We argue the tiers, any tier that the mod agrees it should be, we go with it. but either way we try what we believe it is true, not trying on the other hand is messed up.
Also like I said DT and Ultima both see possible 1-A, we just need to clarify more on it, and that is what I will do in the next CRT, although all your arguments of above the concept of space and all was not really my arguments, but rather changes to the creation does not affect the gods, and the singularity is a canvas in which the gods can do what they want, which is 2 out of the three requirements for 1-A, the other one being Higher D
 
Actually, let me post all the Shinza cosmology or 1-A stuff I have, if you want to use it in a new thread

Creation:

Number of universes in each world or Heaven is different, but in the Fourth Heaven there are infinite universes. Each universe is boundless in size

All concepts, no matter how complex they are, are governed by laws

Big Bang / Atziluth / Taikyoku:

Those who reach Atziluth degree become gods. Transcendence/Gadou Gods are those who want to change themselves, they paint themselves with their craving/law and become a moving world. Hegemony/Hadou Gods are those who want to change the surrounding environment, they emanate their craving/law in the entire of world and paint world, its laws and underlying principles. Worlds that Hegemony Gods create are part of them and they become avatars of those worlds. It was stated that the whole world in the Fourth Heaven is a flow of Mercury (Mercurius's law)

To destroy or paint/overwrite a law, it must be transcended

この領域に達した存在が森羅万象そのものとなり、彼・彼女の思想や性質が当代における普遍的宇宙法則になる――というのが作中世界の根源的な仕組みである。
The fundamental mechanism of the world in this work is that a being who has reached this realm becomes all things in the universe itself, and his or her thoughts and characteristics become the universal laws of the universe in his or her generation.

This is basically the idea of Panentheism, the world is part of God and yet God transcends the world

Taikyoku users are beyond human comprehension

Taikyoku is the source and origin of all things, be they dualities, phenomena, laws, reality, thought and emotion. Concept of darkness is also phenomenon. A Taikyoku user is called allfather and master of all existence

Even colorless/incomplete Taikyoku can control all things and phenomena in the world

Taikyoku transcends anything and everything, including space

Taikyoku allows you to become disconnected from all things in creation and control them

Beri'ah is basically mini Atziluth. The laws of the world against Beri'ah hold no water and Beri'ah ignores them. Even the laws of physics and logic are meaningless in Beri'ah degree. Beri'ah users create their own world with new laws that match their ideals and common sense. Beri'ah tears reality. Worlds created by Beri'ah are dislodged from reality. Reinhard's incomplete world/castle existed out of reality, and beyond the reaches of eternal reccrrence (Mercurius's law)

All laws in the world are mere physics compared to Taikyoku. If the aforementioned Law that exists underwater were to change into Taikyoku, all of Creation's underwater areas would also be changed to comply

Those who reach Atziluth degree see the creation as paper/canvas/picture/mandala

The difference between Taikyoku armor and a non Taikyoku user is like the difference between reality and picture

All conceptual dualities were a mandala before Mitra, a Taikyoku user:

“Black and White, Blue and Red, Light and Darkness, Obverse and Reverse. Every single conceiveable, Dualistic, conflicting, rivalring phenomena, concepts, that exist within this world, all without exception existed here. Flowing, in continous change, a Great Mandala in the shape of a designed pattern, changing in a kaleidoscope like form while continuing to revolve. Infinite colours overflowed, and nevertheless, there was not a single independent thing here. They all have an enemy (furigana: couple), that always certain, under the auspices of the absolute Law. Quite like a microcosm of their universe. An embodiment of the world of Dualism, woven in textile of trascendent scope.”

この世にある全ての二元的な現象、概念が流転し万華鏡の如く形を変える綾模様の大曼荼羅。絶対的な法のもと敵対するものが定められたその空間は宇宙の縮図、超級規模の織物。
そのような異色な空間に坐す、相反する感情を両立しながら存在する宇宙規模の総体を持つ何か。
The large Weave patterened Mandala where all the dualistic phenomenon and concept in this world shifts and changes like a Kaleidoscope. The extent of super fabric is the microcosm of the universe, in which the opposition is to be determined by the absolute law.
There is something that possesses the whole extent of the universe while it coexists with the conflicting emotions that sits in such an unusual space.

Singularity:

When two people reach Atziluth degree and emanate, their cravings clash and they create a Singularity/hole in the creation/canvas

Singularity is a colorless place that has an unknown size, and compared to creation/canvas, it is called a blank slate

Singularity exists nowhere and it is governed by no laws

Only those who have reached Atziluth degree can enter the Singularity and paint it

In Singularity, there is no concept of past, present and future, and from there it seems that all timelines are compressed into an oscillating almagram

Singularity and creation are absolutely separate from each other. Creation changes have no effect on the Singularity or vice versa, even if the god who is one with the creation dies in the Singularity, the creation is not destroyed. For this reason, the best place to create and manipulate creation is inside the Singularity

世界に穿たれた孔の中、事象へ影響を及ぼさない無色の空間。
A pore drilled into the world, a colorless space that has no effect on events.

特異点で起きた事象は原則として、世界に影響を及ぼさないので当代の神が座で殺害されても世界の魂が道連れにならない
As a general rule, events that occur in the Singularity do not affect the world, so even if the god of the day is killed in the Throne, the souls of the world will not go with him.

The depth of the Singularity depends on the power of the Throne Master. It is possible to pass through the Singularity of a Throne Master in one breath, but passing through the Singularity of a stronger Throne Master may not succeed after thousands of years. To pass the Singularity, you have to manipulate and deepen your own existence, which shows that the depth of the Singularity is related to existence and power, and cannot be passed by speed alone

Throne:

Throne is at the deepest point of the Singularity

Throne is the centre of the creation in the past, present and future

Throne is Taikyoku Throne, the center where all phenomena emanates from the existing Law

The concept of time does not exist in Throne

All things in creation, be they cravings or phenomena, are in domain of Throne Master

For Yakou to reach the Throne that governs everything in existence isn't necessarily a miracle per se

Throne transcends anything and everything

Throne is referred to as a hyperdimension that cannot be described by any language

Miscellaneous:

Gladsheim destroyed the concepts of distance and coordinates

Rindou destroyed the concept of distance by using Longinuslanze Tastement

Frederica transcended space-time concepts

The tool created by Khvarenah could reproduce all things, be they matter, phenomena or concepts
 
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Infera28 said:
Actually, let me post all the Shinza cosmology or 1-A stuff I have, if you want to use it in a new thread

Creation:

There is an infinite multiverse in Shinza. Each universe is boundless in size

All concepts, no matter how complex they are, are governed by laws

Big Bang / Atziluth / Taikyoku:

Those who reach the level of Atziluth become gods. Transcendence/Gadou Gods are those who want to change themselves, they paint themselves with their craving / law and become a moving world. Hegemony/Hadou Gods are those who want to change the surrounding environment, they emanate their craving / law in all creation and paint and overwrite all creation and underlying principles of it. Worlds that Hegemony Gods create are part of them and they become avatars of those worlds. It was stated that all creation in the fourth heaven is a flow of Mercury (Mercurius's law)

To destroy or overwrite something, it must be transcended

この領域に達した存在が森羅万象そのものとなり、彼・彼女の思想や性質が当代における普遍的宇宙法則になる――というのが作中世界の根源的な仕組みである。
The fundamental mechanism of the world in this work is that a being who has reached this realm becomes all things in the universe itself, and his or her thoughts and characteristics become the universal laws of the universe in his or her generation.

This is basically the idea of Panentheism, the world is part of God and yet God transcends the world

Taikyoku users are beyond human comprehension

Taikyoku is the source and origin of all things, be they dualities, phenomena, laws, reality, thought and emotion. Concept of darkness is also phenomenon. A Taikyoku user is called allfather and master of all existence

Even colorless/incomplete Taikyoku can control all things and phenomena in the world

Taikyoku transcends anything and everything, including space

Taikyoku disconnects you from everything in creation and lets you connect to them

Bri'ah is basically a mini Atziluth. The laws of the world against Bri'ah hold no water and Bri'ah ignores them. Even the laws of physics and logic are meaningless in Bri'ah. Bri'ah users create their own realm with new laws that are controlled by the user's common sense. Bri'ah is dislodged from reality and tears reality. Reinhard's incomplete castle/Bri'ah existed out of reality. Reinhard Bri'ah existed beyond the reaches of eternal reccrrence (Mercurius's law)

All laws in the world are mere physics compared to Taikyoku. If the aforementioned Law that exists underwater were to change into Taikyoku, all of Creation's underwater areas would also be changed to comply.

Those who reach Atziluth see the world as a paper/canvas/paint/mandala

The difference between Taikyoku armor and a non Taikyoku user is like the difference between reality and picture

All conceptual dualities were a mandala before Mitra:

“Black and White, Blue and Red, Light and Darkness, Obverse and Reverse. Every single conceiveable, Dualistic, conflicting, rivalring phenomena, concepts, that exist within this world, all without exception existed here. Flowing, in continous change, a Great Mandala in the shape of a designed pattern, changing in a kaleidoscope like form while continuing to revolve. Infinite colours overflowed, and nevertheless, there was not a single independent thing here. They all have an enemy (furigana: couple), that always certain, under the auspices of the absolute Law. Quite like a microcosm of their universe. An embodiment of the world of Dualism, woven in textile of trascendent scope.”

この世にある全ての二元的な現象、概念が流転し万華鏡の如く形を変える綾模様の大曼荼羅。絶対的な法のもと敵対するものが定められたその空間は宇宙の縮図、超級規模の織物。
そのような異色な空間に坐す、相反する感情を両立しながら存在する宇宙規模の総体を持つ何か。
The large Weave patterened Mandala where all the dualistic phenomenon and concept in this world shifts and changes like a Kaleidoscope. The extent of super fabric is the microcosm of the universe, in which the opposition is to be determined by the absolute law.
There is something that possesses the whole extent of the universe while it coexists with the conflicting emotions that sits in such an unusual space.

Singularity:

When two people reach the level of Atziluth, their cravings clash and they create a singularity in the creation/canvas

Singularity is a colorless place that has an unknown size, and compared to creation/canvas/painting, it is called a blank slate

Singularity exists nowhere and it is governed by no laws

Only those who have reached the level of Atziluth can enter the Singularity and paint it

In singularity, there is no concept of past, present and future, and from there it seems that all timelines are compressed into an oscillating almagram

Singularity and creation are absolutely separate from each other. Creation changes have no effect on the Singularity or vice versa, even if the god who is one with the creation dies in the Singularity, the creation is not destroyed. For this reason, the best place to create and manipulate creation is inside the Singularity

世界に穿たれた孔の中、事象へ影響を及ぼさない無色の空間。
A pore drilled into the world, a colorless space that has no effect on events.

特異点で起きた事象は原則として、世界に影響を及ぼさないので当代の神が座で殺害されても世界の魂が道連れにならない
As a general rule, events that occur in the Singularity do not affect the world, so even if the god of the day is killed in the Throne, the souls of the world will not go with him.

The depth of the Singularity depends on the power of the Throne Master. It is possible to pass through the Singularity of a Throne Master in one breath, but passing through the Singularity of a stronger Throne Master may not succeed after thousands of years. To pass the singularity, you have to manipulate and deepen your own existence, which shows that the singularity is related to power and existence and cannot be passed by speed alone

Throne:

Throne is at the deepest point of the Singularity

Throne is the centre of the creation in the past, present and future

Throne is Taikyoku Throne, the center where all phenomena emanated from the existing Law

The concept of time does not exist in Throne

All creation (including all cravings and phenomena) is in domain of Throne Master

For Yakou to reach the Throne that governs everything in existence isn't necessarily a miracle per se.

Throne transcends anything and everything

Throne is referred to as a hyperdimension that cannot be described by any language

Miscellaneous:

Gladsheim destroyed the concepts of distance and coordinates

Rindou destroyed the concept of distance by using Longinuslanze Tastement

Frederica transcended space-time concepts

The tool created by Khvarenah could reproduce all things, be they matter, phenomena or concepts
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Bruh, nice that you got this.
 
To be honest, all we really need is to show that the N-th dimension have qualitative superior over the normal universe or multiverse. The series has clearly changed the cosmology several times, so we have plenty of evidence to support the idea that the N-th dimension is not just some fancy terminology.
 
Infera28 said:
Anyway, contrary to what it seems, I'm not looking for lowballing Shinza, I was one of the people in Yuri's threads who tried the hardest to prove that Shinza is 1-A or even high 1-A. I myself believe that Shinza is 1-A, if this were Discord or Instagram, I would agree that Shinza is 1-A. The thing is, no matter what argument or evidence we use to prove 1-A Shinza in vsbattles, it's not enough for vsbattles standards. We really tried all the possible things, but in the end, people like mods opposed them. In this community, creating and transcending all laws, concepts and dualities does not mean transcending all their expansions and it is 5D or 6D at best (In my opinion transcending concept of space is always 1-A tho). Even a statement like "transcending anything and everything" and "disconnected from all things in creation" and "creating dualities" is not enough. You can somehow prove that there are infinite phases in the universe and phase was used once for the difference between dimensions, but even that is not enough for vsbattles and you need something clearer and more consistent, something consistently and directly stating dimensions not phases or layers that can be used for multiple different things
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Yet we already know this isn't true. That's why Shinza was 1A at one point in time. Things like transcending everything, being above dualities, etc. aren't enough for 1A on their own, but with enough consistency and context, a good argument for 1A can be made.

On a side note, I don't particularly care what Shinza's tier is. I myself don't even know if it should even be back on the wiki if I must say so myself
 
Infera28 said:
The difference between Taikyoku armor and a non Taikyoku user is like the difference between reality and picture
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That's not what that is saying. It's metaphorical, saying that it feels like Akuro isn't even there at that moment due to how little damage it did, as if he were a higher dimensional being looking down on Soujirou. This is due to the phenomena of the time armor. Armor does not view things as fiction. It's simply saying that it felt as if Akuro was higher dimensional due to the time armor, and then explains what that means.
 
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i think shinza nicely qualifies for the old version of tiering system
 
Normal anime fans debating the tier of their verse

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Shinza fans debating the tier of their verse
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Sparteh said:
Watching this reminded me of a discussion I have seen in one of the videos comment section. People there said that Masada in one of the interviews have mentioned that Yato could have somehow beaten Hajun. Can anyone confirm it? Considering what we know about Hajun, it seems impossible.
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He said that in the VFB that the possibility of defeating Hajun was there if and only if he used the EE as a diversion to weaken Hajun so that he could finish him off. He can't win any other way.

Q: 新生した夜刀はわずかでも波旬に勝つ可能性はあったのですか?

A: 直接戦って勝つ可能性はゼロ。だけど、形振り構わず手段を選らばずいけば波旬を殺せる可能性はありました。

蝦夷決戦であのまま全員巻き込んで波旬のもとに殴りこみ、覇吐を盾や武器に使いながら漁夫の利を狙うように立ち回ればいい。

実際、最終手段として彼はそれも考えていましたよ。覇吐らがほんくらでどうしようもないと判断すればやっていたでしょう。

「おまえたちが第六天の支配を超えられないなら、俺がすべてを地獄に変えても波旬を倒す」一一と、自ら言っている通りです。
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To summarize the above thing, it's just saying that if he used Habaki as a weapon and shield, he has a chance of defeating Hajun. He can't win in a direct fight
 
Noticed how taikyoku is based off of taiji aka Chinese philosophy stuff.

I find it interesting that the game uses Chinese philosophy type stuff in it.

they must have known that daoism is OP
 
It seems that the Avesta visual novel, or at least Masada's work with it, is finished

アーディティヤ更新。 お待たせしました。 ゲームの作業が一段落したので、今後は徐々に更新ペースを戻していきたいと思います。 ただ、それはそうと八章が予想を超えて長い… まさかこの段階で前中後編に収まらなくなるとは思わなかった。

Machine Translation:

Aaditya update.
Thank you for your patience.
Now that the work on the game has been completed, I will gradually pick up the pace of updates from now on.

However, that being said, chapter 8 is longer than expected...
I didn't think it would not fit in the first two chapters at this stage.

 
PrinceofPein said:
Honestly, if masada translated his previous work aside PL, he would sell more, I do not see the point in a game where he only changed a few things
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He didn't just change a few things, he added entire stories to it. But I get your point. The only main work he hasn't translated is K3, and I doubt that's ever getting a translation. Avesta only finished recently so a translation now is pretty unlikely, especially a translation that can accurately match his prose and dialogue
 
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