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Well, there's also his in game profile, which describes his law as destroying all cravings, which made it special in some sense, so I do think it has to do with Metsujin Messo's nature.Wait what?
"Yes, you should know. This is the real me. This is who I am. I need no special abilities.
Stopping time? Leading the Shura? Manipulating all the universe and its stars, eternally repeating it over and over?
What is that? What are those? Why are you trying to be so crafty? Is it because you are weak, bored, or perhaps that you wanted to distort a setting to make yourself think you're smart? You'r so narrow-minded and sly.
So dumbfounded are these theoretical concepts, meanings, and phenomena that I can't even speak about them.
What, did you even raise an egg with that kind of stuff?
Compatibility of abilities? Absurd. The dangerous factor of using your powers? What a fool. You are caught up in such things that you can't reach the very depths of the Throne.
Compatability is meaningless when it comes to the order of mass, where magnitudes are so different from each other, and a power that is dangerous to use is simply a defective product that cannot be used.............
Hence, Hajun was born and came to possess Taikyoku.
The strongest and most invincible, through and through. No matter who it was, it was all Metsujin Messo--it was power, purely power!
I wanted the power to wipe away all traces of this unpleasant trash.
Hajun's Heaven was only for me!
This was reizen talking about Hajun btw.
His metsujin messo means total annihilation like literally that, and it just means kill everyone in his path, him suppressing everyone else and someone like yato was due to taikyoku number and craving, if he and yato had the same number of taikyoku he could not have suppressed anyone
Well, it is quite useful as shown here:Taikyoku having R>F difference is not really a thing and only relevant in emanation in a fight unless you are hajun with immense taikyoku gap, taikyoku is useless in a fight
Could you get scans of the parts before and after this to get the full context?Well, it is quite useful as shown here:
However, there's always a sense of an unknown outcome for Hadou Gods because of the fact that there's the soul count, which can turn the tide of the battle, and obviously the strength of the craving.
Gudou Gods are merely limited into physically hitting something for the law rewriting to happen, so even higher Taikyoku can still lose to lower Taikyoku characters as shown with Morei vs Shiori.
Well, I can't yet find them, but it was a statement by Habaki if I'm not mistaken, who was getting absolutely stomped by Yato.Could you get scans of the parts before and after this to get the full context?
True, but characters like Shiori also had special haxes that made their higher Taikyoku honestly useful, such as Shiori bullshitting her way to victory and weakening Morei with each hit, until finally she was able to launch an attack capable of severely harming her.Well the issues with the Tenma were more despite their Taikyoku giving them an advantage it was extremely fragile with Reinhard being dead, Yato being weakened and preoccupied, and the area of their Laws being threatened to crumble away under Hajun' Law at any second. Thus the Tenma's had specific situations that the Eastern Expedition exploited so as to make the advantage of higher Taikyoku disappear.
some shit with the singularity.just wondering, what are the arguments for countless 1-B??
Yes we will still keep this, I will add this scans to my revisions and post them sometimes this week, thanks a lot.Personally think we still should keep the Higher Dimensions in addition to this Singularity stuff (an Taikyoku) as we still have that quote that talks about Higher Dimensions being a thing above Lower Dimensions, plus not only does Kajiri Kamui Kagura have them but Paradise Lost has its whole Sefirot and Abyss as part of its Heaven.
Some Paradise Lost translations that keeps talking about Higher Dimensions.
At least Low Complex Multiverse level (Gods are higher dimensional beings that exists beyond the multiverse, with dimensions holding the same difference as the one between reality and fiction), likely Hyperverse level (Gods can pierce through the Singularity and its dimensional layers, including that of its center, where the Throne resides. While the amount of layers depends of the Throne God in place, Mercurius' stated that goingthrough the one under his heaven would be like "falling forever" while Hajun's was stated to be above the former, to the point of it only taking "the time a person would hold their breath" in comparison to the thousands of years Yato put drilling through it. Whether these dimensional layers works on a power is however left vague, since Soujirou and Shiori, two Gods below Yato, succeeded in breaching the last layer he didn't get through).So what exactly will their Rating be when we take all this stuff in?
i am at work currently, let us discuss properly after i finish with work, i will send a message here, so everyone knowledgeable can inputI don't agree with that. We have clear evidence that Heaven's have Higher Dimensions (Somewhere in Tier 1) we know that no matter what size or what dimensions it has the Multiverse is still just the bottom floor of the Singularity (1-A), we know that stronger Gods can create Singularities of greater depths then weaker Gods and even a God with finite Taikyoku value could make a Singularity of endless depth (1-A+). The Gods are above that and are only stopped by the Throne God's power and the Throne itself getting in the way. The Gods themselves have their own Hierarchy because of the whole lower God can't beat Higher Gods thing (High 1-A).
It is normally used to apply something above or over something else, so a Hyper Dimensional Space would be a Space over Dimensions.hyper-
a prefix appearing in loanwords from Greek, where it meant “over,” usually implying excess or exaggeration (hyperbole); on this model used, especially as opposed to hypo-, in the formation of compound words (hyperthyroid).
This looks like something beyond even 1-B maybe 1-A...I am waiting for @Tarang123 to postSo what exactly will their Rating be when we take all this stuff in?
Heaven's can have Higher Dimensions, these Higher Dimensions are above Lower ones. All of this is only the bottom floor of the Singukarity which depth depends on the Throne Gods strength, with a higher Gods have a much greater depth then a lower Gods, with even Mercurius' being described as endless.
Beyond this is the Throne, it is the Hyper Dimensional Space (just because it has Dimension in the term does not mean its part of Higher dimensions, hyper is a suffix used to denote being beyond something, aka Hyper Dimensional can mean something beyond dimensions) used to regulate the Throne Gods Law and give birth the Creation, yet even the God's can destroy its Outer Layer (we have no idea what's going on with the inner layers yet so let's not get into that). Then the whole lower Gods can't beat stronger Gods.
I disagree with almost everything here. Also where you getting this "dimensional layer" Singularity from ? The video you linked is without any time stamp so please tell it. This reminds of someone (in darksmash's thread iirc) who tried claiming Singularity has "Realms" by conflating Singularity with sefirot tree.likely Hyperverse level (Gods can pierce through the Singularity and its dimensional layers, including that of its center, where the Throne resides. While the amount of layers depends of the Throne God in place, Mercurius' stated that goingthrough the one under his heaven would be like "falling forever" while Hajun's was stated to be above the former, to the point of it only taking "the time a person would hold their breath" in comparison to the thousands of years Yato put drilling through it. Whether these dimensional layers works on a power is however left vague
Don't think so1-A Shinza might be coming back???
Wow It's almost as if two huge threads debunking that never happenedI don't agree with that. We have clear evidence that Heaven's have Higher Dimensions (Somewhere in Tier 1) we know that no matter what size or what dimensions it has the Multiverse is still just the bottom floor of the Singularity (1-A), we know that stronger Gods can create Singularities of greater depths then weaker Gods and even a God with finite Taikyoku value could make a Singularity of endless depth (1-A+). The Gods are above that and are only stopped by the Throne God's power and the Throne itself getting in the way. The Gods themselves have their own Hierarchy because of the whole lower God can't beat Higher Gods thing (High 1-A).
Where is singularity depth having transcendent differences coming from?Gods can pierce through the Singularity and its dimensional layers
Where is singularity depth having transcendent differences coming from
Implying half of the arguments used for the verse aren't comparable to fantheoriesOkay, that came out of literally nowhere.
You equated endless depth to 1-A+, meaning you are implicitly assuming each step in the singularity is not only transcendent, but transcendent on the same scale as the difference between a 1-A entity and a human.Wel, the word Transcendent is never used, nor do I state that in my explanation.
That was only appearing relatively endless because of being backed by Mercurius, and wouldn't scale to gods weaker than him.Mercurius who has a strength valued at 90 is able to create one of Endless depth,
Yeah shit like "Singularity has Realms","There are dimensional layers in it", and "Singularity has two types : backed up by gods and not backed up by gods" are indeed fantheories.Implying half of the arguments used for the verse aren't comparable to fantheories
Well all that is stuff that this website has used in the past, or is using right now. That's what happens when you use an untranslated verse for scaling. Should have advocated for deletionYeah shit like "Singularity has Realms","There are dimensional layers in it", and "Singularity has two types : backed up by gods and not backed up by gods" are indeed fantheories.
you were the part of the people who said the verse should not be deleted, now you will have to live with it.Personally I don't really see the point of keeping KKK stuff now that Yuri is gone as well