Shin Megami Tensei Revisions / Updates

[Yobo_Blue]

Actually, the justification is okay, I just don't see why Yhvh's head scales

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Anyway, anyone else?

 

[Clockwork_Cookies]

Ehhhh...i think this need it's own Content Revision Thread

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Ehhhh...i think this need it's own Content Revision Thread

Oof

 

[Extreme123dz]

So, we would use the DLC Messiahs in the Diamond Realm?

 

[The_Everlasting]

We don't use that.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

We kinda do. We wouldn't have Stephen as a profile anyway. It's probably canon.

 

[Jaakuace44]

The Diamond Realm DLC's validity has always been a bit shaky. If we consider it canon, that would make all the Messiahs 1-C, which doesn't perfectly line up with all their other feats. I suppose you could argue each Messiah was empowered by 'observing' Nanashi's fights, but that would be a stretch in trying to explain how Kazuya - who died to ICBMs, mind you - can suddenly withstand attacks by Stephen (also doesn't explain how he's such a ludicrously high level, but then again, stats don't count anyway lol).

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I mean, we have him down as 2-A, so it's likely a outlier, or wis

 

[CursedGentleman]

Technically they are all at least 2-A, therefore is not that much of a stretch, tbh, I always thought that Megatron was High 2-A

 

[Jaakuace44]

End-game Kazuya is 2-A. Early game Kazuya (the one who died when the nukes hit) would be 2-C, having beaten Thor. A 2-C up against a 1-C... doesn't sound promising.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

WIS? Could just be R E T C O N S

 

[Jaakuace44]

Technically they are all at least 2-A, therefore is not that much of a stretch, tbh, I always thought that Megatron was High 2-A

Well, if Matt's right, Kagutsuchi would be infinitely above Baseline 2-A. Anything significantly more powerful than him in that case would steer more closely to High 2-A (assuming I don't have this completely wrong, anyway)

 

[Jaakuace44]

Anyway, I can't really make a sound judgement on the DLC. Better to leave that discussion for another thread entirely.

 

[Extreme123dz]

Considering in some point in plot they can realy Die in his Game/history, remember that SMT have a lot of endings/Time Lines that are canon (and only shows a fews because limitaions and its hard).

Another that is a Retcon or change.

If not, a special Key for them because this DLC y Canon to the Story and relate some important points in the plot.

 

[Ultima_Reality]

Pretty sure that it said that YHVH has as many heads as their are stars.

This sort of wording is often used to connote "endlessness" in fiction, though. And it is fitting and not a extrapolated assumption, since the context behind the statement is that YHVH has Infinite Heads because he controls all Universes

 

[Asuka_the_Demonic_Empress]

I just want the persona upgrades to be done already do i can use P4 characcters on vs battles.

 

[CursedGentleman]

Complaining here won't make this faster, you know?

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

I just want the persona upgrades to be done already do i can use P4 characcters on vs battles.

Be patience,i also want Persona get updated but it will take a time.

 

[Clockwork_Cookies]

well, i planing to make a revision thread for Persona verse once i finished Persona 2. But...P4 characters are gonna stay bottom tier (above trinity soul tho) even the changes are made. Lol

 

[The_Everlasting]

@Clockwork Cookies

Matthew, Ultima and I are attempting to organize Persona revisions. We'd really like your help.

 

[Clockwork_Cookies]

Not sure i will able to help much due to how lazy i am and havent finished Persona 2. But i will try my best to give my input about the verse.

 

[CursedGentleman]

@Ever

I can help too, I did finish Persona 1,2,3,FES, 4 and Golden, I didnt play the answer or Trinity Soul

And what are our view on Shin Megami Tensei Imagine?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Maybe I should message Matthew if this discussion keeps getting larger?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Better yet, I'll just make a new thread.

 

[Elizhaa]

bump

 

[Elizhaa]

Contination Thread link added since it was hard to found and still has not be concluded:

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1870013