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Greetings my friends, today I have cooked up a special meal with Samlex that has been long overdue in the wiki, this is going to be about Isshiki scaling massively above Kaguya's ETSO Energy Per Second value. I know there will be some inevitable misconstruction but regardless I urge everyone to read everything carefully, the arguments here only affect 2 characters and only 2 character's changes are proposed, nothing else
Without further ado let’s proceed
ETSO = The jutsu that destroys and recreates a dimension over at least 15 years
V1 Kaguya = The Kaguya that came out of Madara in the war arc (this kaguya is involved with god tier scaling chains)
V2 Kaguya = Post IT Amp Kaguya that initiated ETSO (This Kaguya was stated exponentially superior from before)
EGVF = Eighty God's Vacuum Fists
V2 Kaguya that Nard and Sasuke don’t scale to has tier 4 ninjutsu (EPS NOT ETSO), Isshiki blatantly scales beyond it
It reflects Isshiki’s overwhelming physical superiority, this dominance isn’t due to hax or specialized abilities, but strength because Jigen's abilities were skillfully countered by their teamwork and strategies, it was the strength boost from Jigen’s horned transformation that decisively turned the tide, Isshiki amplified these physical traits more so to the point of any and all ninjutsu being rendered ineffective in scratching him reducing Naruto into contemplating certain death. Naruto later attains Baryon Mode which produces purely higher physical stats to combat Isshiki. He was the "strongest" foe solely due to his vastly superior statistics putting him irrefutably beyond EPS.
This jutsu is a defining aspect of her power as she's constantly making use of this jutsu several times within the series, it defines her power as a part of her combat capabilities
Her EGVFs are a counter to naruto and sasuke's avatars, them = her peak strength and power (Her combat capabilities)
It is to be noted she did not use physical punching attacks, especially characters like Sasuke only tasted her power when he got beat up by the EGVF. (he blocked some needles casually at the start once tho) As sasuke physically clashed with that and not her fists his statement regarding her formidable strength would refer to the EGVF. (I am not upgrading Momo and Kin to tier 4 im saying he can only attribute kaguya's power to her EGVF) Isshiki being the stronger foe would put him above the primary combat capabilities which means his peak power>her peak power and since his peak is just punches and kicks he scales physically
In the Wiki’s official rules, for all three power systems if two abilities draw energy from the same power source they are allowed to scale to each other
One Advantage of the EPS value is that it is massively lowballed to make it safe for scaling, since it's been calculated with the assumption that she'd be pouring this in for 15 years continuously without rest, breaks, sleep it indexes her ultra casual energy outputs as a result her normal offensive ninjutsu that are far beyond her physicals that consume immense amounts of chakra will scale far beyond the EPS value too, especially the Eighty Gods Vacuum Attack A jutsu that is only possible by the mastery of her chakra, likely the strongest attack of an entity who freely weaves chakra, her ash bones would also be included in this, in v2 stage she fired it against Kakashi and their piercing power was so high all three shards sharp penetrating power cracked his susano and kakashi’s susano lacked sufficient durability to tank it's attack potency, both of these scale to L4C.
I will not be expanding much here because it’s already accepted, I'm just putting it out there for the curious minds
-SO6P naruto being upgraded
-Sasuke being upgraded
-V1 Kaguya ninjutsu being this strong
Bunny Milf Solos (Disagree) :
They dont fw each other (Neutral) :
Without further ado let’s proceed
A few keywords before we begin
EPS = Energy Per Second Chakra needed for ETSO this is her combat applicable ninjutsuETSO = The jutsu that destroys and recreates a dimension over at least 15 years
V1 Kaguya = The Kaguya that came out of Madara in the war arc (this kaguya is involved with god tier scaling chains)
V2 Kaguya = Post IT Amp Kaguya that initiated ETSO (This Kaguya was stated exponentially superior from before)
EGVF = Eighty God's Vacuum Fists
Main Course
V2 Kaguya that Nard and Sasuke don’t scale to has tier 4 ninjutsu (EPS NOT ETSO), Isshiki blatantly scales beyond itIt reflects Isshiki’s overwhelming physical superiority, this dominance isn’t due to hax or specialized abilities, but strength because Jigen's abilities were skillfully countered by their teamwork and strategies, it was the strength boost from Jigen’s horned transformation that decisively turned the tide, Isshiki amplified these physical traits more so to the point of any and all ninjutsu being rendered ineffective in scratching him reducing Naruto into contemplating certain death. Naruto later attains Baryon Mode which produces purely higher physical stats to combat Isshiki. He was the "strongest" foe solely due to his vastly superior statistics putting him irrefutably beyond EPS.
EGVF is Kaguya’s Power
This jutsu is a defining aspect of her power as she's constantly making use of this jutsu several times within the series, it defines her power as a part of her combat capabilities
- Her EGVF clashed with Naruto’s Chakra Arms and knocked him away
- Kaguya’s EGVF shattered the Susano and sent him flying
- Sasuke states even his susano doesnt work against her in response to the EGVF
- Against Naruto she again throws it at him
- When Naruto ups the number of clones, she ups the number of fists she throws out
- Again Kaguya bodies Sasuke’s Susano with the EGVF
Her EGVFs are a counter to naruto and sasuke's avatars, them = her peak strength and power (Her combat capabilities)
It is to be noted she did not use physical punching attacks, especially characters like Sasuke only tasted her power when he got beat up by the EGVF. (he blocked some needles casually at the start once tho) As sasuke physically clashed with that and not her fists his statement regarding her formidable strength would refer to the EGVF. (I am not upgrading Momo and Kin to tier 4 im saying he can only attribute kaguya's power to her EGVF) Isshiki being the stronger foe would put him above the primary combat capabilities which means his peak power>her peak power and since his peak is just punches and kicks he scales physically
Energy System
In the Wiki’s official rules, for all three power systems if two abilities draw energy from the same power source they are allowed to scale to each other
One Advantage of the EPS value is that it is massively lowballed to make it safe for scaling, since it's been calculated with the assumption that she'd be pouring this in for 15 years continuously without rest, breaks, sleep it indexes her ultra casual energy outputs as a result her normal offensive ninjutsu that are far beyond her physicals that consume immense amounts of chakra will scale far beyond the EPS value too, especially the Eighty Gods Vacuum Attack A jutsu that is only possible by the mastery of her chakra, likely the strongest attack of an entity who freely weaves chakra, her ash bones would also be included in this, in v2 stage she fired it against Kakashi and their piercing power was so high all three shards sharp penetrating power cracked his susano and kakashi’s susano lacked sufficient durability to tank it's attack potency, both of these scale to L4C.
Consistency Statements
- Isshiki’s physical might reaches insurmountable power levels resulting in risking the destruction of the body he’s hosting [BNNG #48]
- Jigen fodderized Narusasu and Isshiki is even stronger and a complete monster [BNNG #48]
- Sasuke attributes Jigen’s superiority to his physical might by mentioning how they failed to make a dent on him [BNNG#49]
- Isshiki is yet again regarded superior due to strength [BNNG#50]
- Momoshiki who despite amps got fodderized by Naruto and Co could not believe they would ever stand a chance against the might of Isshiki, showing us that Isshiki is recognized as a being massively beyond everything that’s shown before in the verse [BNNG#53]
Canonicity
The Boruto NNG Anime was accepted as canon up till episode 216 as that was the duration till when Kodachi was working in the anime but now it is accepted as completely canon, the evidences used here are from episode 214 while the anime was still under Kodachi’s wing, who wrote the novels as well as the BNNG manga till the 50s and has connected them.I will not be expanding much here because it’s already accepted, I'm just putting it out there for the curious minds
What is being proposed?
Sand Box with ProposalsWhat is NOT being proposed?
-Kaguya scaling physically to anything-SO6P naruto being upgraded
-Sasuke being upgraded
-V1 Kaguya ninjutsu being this strong
Lastly
I would like to thank Samlex and the other people in and out of the wiki that helped review these things for me in advance, Credits for CRT thumbnail, Kindly do not argue against things I have not proposed, read everything carefully as it is a very short CRT, no argument from incredulity and no strawmaning please. That will be all thank you for your timeVotes :
Isshiki Tops (Agree) :Bunny Milf Solos (Disagree) :
They dont fw each other (Neutral) :
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