Shadow of the Rabbit Goddess

[Samlex1234]

Well Code's AP justification is this currently: At least Small Planet level (Code's strength had greatly surpassed Jigen), higher with White Kāma (Shikamaru reiterates the sentiment that Code is far beyond Jigen and posits that while Code should be weaker than Isshiki, it's not certain, implying Code is somewhat in the same ballpark)

I would say we should chill on Code and other characters for now as it derails the CRT. That is not what the OP is proposing and if anyone wants to create a CRT for them they should feel free to. Isshiki is stated to be the Strongest Foe the have ever faced, Code was stated to be stronger than Jigen, not Isshiki.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

I don't it to be in a scaling vacuum, I'm deadass fine with base momoshiki scaling here, it's just a matter of whether or not it is enough to convince the staff, I dont think uncertain claims from a character who never clashed with Isshiki is gonna convince people

What I mean is that if you just propose what's in the OP, Code's AP justification will say he's in the same ballpark as Isshiki while being rated hundreds of millions of times weaker

I would say we should chill on Code and other characters for now as it derails the CRT. That is not what the OP is proposing and if anyone wants to create a CRT for them they should feel free to. Isshiki is stated to be the Strongest Foe the have ever faced, Code was stated to be stronger than Jigen, not Isshiki.

It's important for a CRT to address potential ramifications it has on the verse as a whole, especially with other scaling chains that are accepted already (in this case, Code<~Isshiki)

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

What I mean is that if you just propose what's in the OP, Code's AP justification will say he's in the same ballpark as Isshiki while being rated hundreds of millions of times weaker

It's important for a CRT to address potential ramifications it has on the verse as a whole, especially with other scaling chains that are accepted already (in this case, Code<~Isshiki)

we can remove the "implying same ballpark" rubbish as its purely speculated headcanon


EDIT :

(Shikamaru reiterates the sentiment that Code is far beyond Jigen and posits that while Code should be weaker than Isshiki, it's not certain, implying Code is somewhat in the same ballpark)

the bolded part is straight up headcanon, none of this was ever remotely implied in the scan, I'm gonna propose add a proposal for removal

 

[Iabihs]

I would say we should chill on Code and other characters for now as it derails the CRT. That is not what the OP is proposing and if anyone wants to create a CRT for them they should feel free to. Isshiki is stated to be the Strongest Foe the have ever faced, Code was stated to be stronger than Jigen, not Isshiki.

Yeah i agree with this i just think its being references for consistencies sake, cuz this means theres a 800 Million (800,000,000) times gap between isshiki and the other god tiers that he seemingly doesnt finger flick despite attempting to kill at certain points lol ( and also the same gap between him and Current cast)

 

[Iabihs]

I agree with ghost on codes statement being removed, esp given the scan he posted

 

[Samlex1234]

What I mean is that if you just propose what's in the OP, Code's AP justification will say he's in the same ballpark as Isshiki while being rated hundreds of millions of times weaker

It's important for a CRT to address potential ramifications it has on the verse as a whole, especially with other scaling chains that are accepted already (in this case, Code<~Isshiki)

Nothing here states Code is in the same ballpark as Isshiki. In fact, they feel confident that they might be able to take him because they believe his power should be less than Isshiki. Trust me I wanted the scaling chain to at least start from fused Momo, but knowing how strict the wiki is and I witnessed the Shibai thread, I had to concede to Ghost’s logic. There are no potential ramifications.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Then you can propose removing it. I'm just saying it's officially accepted on Code's profile as of now

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

Updated Sandbox

Lmk if I need stuff to fix in here

 

[DavidTPPM]

Side note, I think it's good to point out just how downplayed the ETSO calc not because those values are necessarily correct but to avoid breaking calc stacking rules.

And I don't mean just the timeframe which assumes an insane 15 year gap despite Kakashi implying it would be done before his DMS timer runs out.
It also assumes the lowest possible baseline forest level value for basic TSOs despite direct on screen feats clearly putting them above stuff like Juubi TBBs and BSM Narutos super massive rasengans. That's a difference of 1.645988e24 Joules vs 4.946e10 Joules. Or in other words about 33 TRILLION times lower AP/cm³.

Again not saying this necessarily means anything, I'm just pointing out how ridiculous the gap between ETSOs potential true power and Isshiki there is currently despite all the stuff in the OP implying otherwise

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

the bigger downplay is etso not being low-2c but this really is not relevant to my crt, I request you to stay on track David

 

[KingogKings777]

not bad formatting

 

[Tom4t0GG789]

I completely agree with this thread

 

[JohnHendrix212]

Side note, I think it's good to point out just how downplayed the ETSO calc not because those values are necessarily correct but to avoid breaking calc stacking rules.

And I don't mean just the timeframe which assumes an insane 15 year gap despite Kakashi implying it would be done before his DMS timer runs out.
It also assumes the lowest possible baseline forest level value for basic TSOs despite direct on screen feats clearly putting them above stuff like Juubi TBBs and BSM Narutos super massive rasengans. That's a difference of 1.645988e24 Joules vs 4.946e10 Joules. Or in other words about 33 TRILLION times lower AP/cm³.

Again not saying this necessarily means anything, I'm just pointing out how ridiculous the gap between ETSOs potential true power and Isshiki there is currently despite all the stuff in the OP implying otherwise

Yep. 15 years is horrendous downplay.

Someone should fix that, tbh. What with the whole "accuracy before consistency" attitude we've got on here when it comes to calcs.

OT: I'd agree this to be the case for Boruto God tiers, but BM Naruto and Isshiki will have to do for now.

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

Yes yes the lower ends can be upgraded in a separate crt for those believing in momo and co deserving scaling if the staff approves of their arguments

But for now let’s focus on the two that I’ve mentioned