Several Tekken upgrades

[Dark649]

Azazel was said to be threat to the entire human race Jin had to start a war to awake and kill him he's the most hyped up character
Prima Heihachi could more or less fight Devil kazuya and knocked him unconscious when he got him off guard if you go by your logic not even 1000 heihachi should be threat to kazuya

Kazuya masterd Devil power since T4 , he was trying to rule the world and needed an army to face Jin , same goes for jin , Jin never fought kazuya face to face since T4

This is a recap of the events from Tekken 1 to presumably Tekken 7.

Tekken 1: Kazuya defeats Heihachi.

Tekken 2: Enraged Heihachi defeats Kazuya and Devil.

Tekken 3: Paul defeats Base Ogre, then Base Jin kills True Ogre.

Tekken 4: Base Jin defeats Heihachi and Kazuya.

Tekken 5. Base Jin kills Jimpachi.

Tekken 6: Half Devil Jin kills Golden Azazel, so Devil Jin > Golden Azazel.

Tekken 7: I don't know how they will defeat Akuma and Kazumi, but it's likely that Heihachi will finally end Kazuya.

 

[Man_from_Shadow]

Do note that Devil and Angel fought for control of Kazuxa during Tekken 2, that's why Heihachi won.

ZERO, if you want to drop, no problem, but even Jinpachi was threat to entire human race and Jin defeated him without transforming.

Also, Kazuya without transforming is equal to Base Jin who is stronger than Heihachi.

 

[Man_from_Shadow]

we're moving away from the main point like this we need to prove at the least the jack feats to scale it to top tiers characters , i am gonna drop the jin-azazel thing for now

Jack 6 was made to alone solos Jack 5s+Jack 4s.

Jack 5 was made to do what Jack 4s couldn't.

Jack 4 is upgraded version of Gun Jack.


And any high tier (no Gene)>>Jack 6.

It easily scales.

 

[ZERO7772]

Talking about that howrang is so underrated he doesn't even have Profile lol

 

[Dark649]

we're moving away from the main point like this we need to prove at the least the jack feats to scale it to top tiers characters , i am gonna drop the jin-azazel thing for now

Jack 6 was made to alone solos Jack 5s+Jack 4s.

That's true Jack Tekken 2 and Tekken 3 canon endings confirms that the new Jack is stronger than the previous one, so Jack 7 > All the previous Jack's.

 

[Man_from_Shadow]

But featless chick from T7 has...logic.

 

[ZERO7772]

So Gun jack is large town level + MHS "via reacting to Blast From satellite " , jack 4 > Gun jack , weakened kazuya and heihachi can blitz and one shout jack 4 , jack 6 > army of jack 4 , jack 6 still weaker than High tiers of the verse

are we getting to the point here ?

 

[Man_from_Shadow]

So Gun jack is large town level + MHS "via reacting to Blast From satellite " , jack 4 > Gun jack , weakened kazuya and heihachi can blitz and one shout jack 4 , jack 6 > army of jack 4 , jack 6 still weaker than High tiers of the verse
are we getting to the point here ?

Almost, but Jack 5>squad of Jack 4s and Jack 6>army of Jack 5s+Jack 4s

 

[Dark649]

Talking about that howrang is so underrated he doesn't even have Profile lol

King, Armour King, Yoshimitsu, Bryan, Law, Paul and Lei should have profiles.

 

[Man_from_Shadow]

I have no idea what to make of King and Armour King, nor Lei for that matter.

Paul scales to Ogre and somewhat to Kazuya, Bryan to Paul, Yoshimitsu to Bryan and Law to Paul I guess.

 

[ZERO7772]

So Gun jack is large town level + MHS "via reacting to Blast From satellite " , jack 4 > Gun jack , weakened kazuya and heihachi can blitz and one shout jack 4 , jack 6 > army of jack 4 , jack 6 still weaker than High tiers of the verse
are we getting to the point here ?

Almost, but Jack 5>squad of Jack 4s and Jack 6>army of Jack 5s+Jack 4s

I think High tiers of the verse should be At least City level

 

[Dark649]

I have no idea what to make of King and Armour King, nor Lei for that matter.
Paul scales to Ogre and somewhat to Kazuya, Bryan to Paul, Yoshimitsu to Bryan and Law to Paul I guess.

Lei Wulong fought with these people in the canon: Bruce, Wang, Fang.

Possibly non canon-Tekken 3 Tekken Force opponents: Nina, Hwoarang, Bryan, and Heihachi. Tekken 6 Arena: Kazuya

King and Armour King fought these people in the canon: Marduk and Julia. (Base Ogre, but King 1 was killed by him)

Possibly non canon-Tekken 3 Tekken Force opponents: Lei, Paul, Nina and Heihachi. Tekken 6 Arena: Bob, Bryan and Kazuya.

 

[Man_from_Shadow]

Wang? Wang Jinrei? How well did he do?

Anyway, he can scale to Wang and Feng.

Neither could be scaled to Mishimas

 

[Man_from_Shadow]

Zero0

Atleast city level is for Jack 4 tiers.

Anyone on Mishimas level should have "Atleast mountain+" just scaling from Heihachi's Honmaru feat, let alone Jinpachi's.

 

[Man_from_Shadow]

DARK649


You are right, Lei is Wang's sparring partner.

 

[ZERO7772]

Agree

 

[Man_from_Shadow]

So, we agreed on upgrades?

Now we just need more mods permissions for this.

 

[Dark649]

I agree, we should highlight this thread.

 

[Austrian-Man-Meat]

I'm fine with accepting the following

Gun Jack reacting to satelite beam

Feng destroying the volcanic rock

Jin flying to space (where is the exact gif?)

And that's all I can think of atm

 

[Man_from_Shadow]

I agree, we should highlight this thread.

It already is

 

[Man_from_Shadow]

I'm fine with accepting the following
Gun Jack reacting to satelite beam

Feng destroying the volcanic rock

Jin flying to space (where is the exact gif?)

And that's all I can think of atm

What about surviving Honmaru's explosion?

 

[Dark649]

Jin flying to space (where is the exact gif?)

 

[Austrian-Man-Meat]

This is from Tekken Tag Tournament 2, not a canon source.

 

[Dark649]

This is from Tekken Tag Tournament 2, not a canon source.

Then from what canon Tekken he was able to fly from space, aside from Tag 2?.

 

[ZERO7772]

Jin flying to the space is in tag 2 "non-canon" ,

 

[Man_from_Shadow]

Well, my bad, lol.


I was led to believe it was in fight against Azazel.

 

[Dark649]

Well, my bad, lol.
I was led to believe it was in fight against Azazel.

Then there are none because Jin was transported in the desert (not in space) when he killed Golden Azazel.

 

[ZERO7772]

Hmm if the upgraders were accepted this should scale to "Paul , hwoarang ,Kuma , Law"

Paul held his own againts kazuya in tekken 1 and beated Ogre who killed Jun

Howrang is on par with base Jin

Kuma beated Paul in T4

Law is Paul Training partner

 

[Dark649]

Hmm if the upgraders were accepted this should scale to "Paul , hwoarang ,Kuma , Law"
Paul held his own againts kazuya in tekken 1 and beated Ogre who killed Jun.

Jun is not dead, at least this is what i heard from Harada.

 

[ZERO7772]

Yeah just playing along the story from jin point of view which been proven wrong again and again lol

 

[Man_from_Shadow]

Hmm if the upgraders were accepted this should scale to "Paul , hwoarang ,Kuma , Law"
Paul held his own againts kazuya in tekken 1 and beated Ogre who killed Jun

Howrang is on par with base Jin

Kuma beated Paul in T4

Law is Paul Training partner

Yes, all of those can be scaled.


Though I wouldn't make Paul=Kazuya since it was long ago

 

[ZERO7772]

We can't scale the other two at this rate xD yeah it was long ago but Paul is should still be mashima level overall

 

[Man_from_Shadow]

Paul scales to Ogre and rest to him.


Anyway, how much more people we need to put important feats on profiles?

 

[ZERO7772]

Don't tell you plan to make the entire cast on one tier like now.

Well bet me we have 3 people agree on this but you still need an admin to agree on it i think

 

[Man_from_Shadow]

No, lol.


Devil Jin, Devil Kazuya and Azazel>1 tier

Jin, Kazuya, Heihachi, Jinpachi, Hworang, Steve and Lars>2. Tier

Paul, Ogre, Wang and everyone who scales to Paul>3. Tier


Should we ask some admin?

 

[ZERO7772]

You may add Kazumi as she is Devil gene user herself though she is featless for now , You forget lars who beated Jin and why steve is tier 2 again ?

Yeah you should ask admin to chick on these if no one answers if few days you should just add it

 

[Man_from_Shadow]

I would rather wait to see what can she do. It is debatable did Jin even try, but you do have a point. Can tag and hurt Hworang who>=Jin. He would be weakest in the tier, but still in it.


I will ask Antvasima, you think he would respond?

 

[ZERO7772]

Heihachi was impressed by lars power , He draw with kazuya , defeated Jin when he put everything he have into it and just the simple fact he have mashima blood make him mashima level as everyone from this family are literally top tier

about steve make sense i guess

 

[Promestein]

Before you do anything, just list the intended changes to tiering and speed and such, and for which characters, listing it in such a convoluted way doesn't help anyone.

 

[Man_from_Shadow]

Before you do anything, just list the intended changes to tiering and speed and such, and for which characters, listing it in such a convoluted way doesn't help anyone.

Sure.