- 20,529
- 17,434
In that case the argument should be that Goketsu is 6-A not 6-B. Which makes negative amounts of sense.
-
This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here. -
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page. -
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
Several OPM character upgrades
- Thread starter TimmyTurnero
- Start date
- Status
- 3,116
- 3,545
if thats the case then saitama is boundless.
dude, the wiki doesn't even allow stuff like that. just because someone says someone is stronger than another character doesnt make them stronger.
- 4,940
- 1,841
- Thread starter
- #163
That would contradict you being arrogant and the fact that you haven’t acknowledged it literally supports you are, but ok
This would only work if we didnt know how much strength he was using then and there as it varies. But now we literally have something we can use, also it says “refrain” meaning try not to, but we can and now we can literally scale Gougetsu to the meteor as we have evidence that allows that.
Can you prove its an outlier? If not then stop claiming/making that argument. Prove the lore contradicts (I literally proved it supports it). Maybe you should consider that its possible for people to upscale. Its called being a shone series and getting stronger over time
.The meteor scales to country level, Saitama overpowered it making him scale to country level atleast. Genos watches and sees the strength of Saitama at the time, he compared this strength to Gougetsu. Not sure whats hard to comprehend here.
Ad homenin gg?
- 4,940
- 1,841
- Thread starter
- #164
Lord i do not believe you have paid attention to my arguments, lmao
the lore depicts Gougetsu scaling to suppressed saitama
- 435
- 266
Actually prove why that couldn't be
- 24,975
- 26,822
Yeah that also exists. Trying to use Genos' statement would result in 6-A Gouketsu which is dumb
- 3,116
- 3,545
im not tryna break any rules hereLord i do not believe you have paid attention to my arguments, lmao
but ill state this again.
- Refrain from trying to scale anyone else from Saitama’s attacks, as he is the verse’s god tier and the results of his attacks can be inconsistent.
- 435
- 266
Is it?
- 4,940
- 1,841
- Thread starter
- #169
scans?
The note on saitama is for them TAKING HIS PUNCHES, not going against scaling towards his lesser feats if we have statements. Major difference.
The lore does indeed support him scaling higher, it doesnt have to say he scales to a meteor when it depicts he scales to Saitama who scales above meteor vs z city
- 20,529
- 17,434
Because we scale people to to the feat and the OP directly stated that other people who scale to it. One of which... would be Metal Knight.
- 24,975
- 26,822
Yes, we are not scaling Gouketsu to feats on the level of dragon or above or even Boros.
- 4,940
- 1,841
- Thread starter
- #172
We have went over this several times already, cherry picking fallacy and argument from repetition be like :cringetroll:
- 20,529
- 17,434
The warning about temp banning people still applies to you. Stay on thread topic.
From this point on no more personal attacks.
- 42,622
- 36,897
If I was arrogant I would include that in the list of my faults, which includes but isn't limited to: Short temper, somewhat impatient, doesn't take things very seriously, easily distracted, bad social judge, ETC, ETC.That would contradict you being arrogant and the fact that you haven’t acknowledged it literally supports you are, but ok
This would only work if we didnt know how much strength he was using then and there as it varies. But now we literally have something we can use, also it says “refrain” meaning try not to, but we can and now we can literally scale Gougetsu to the meteor as we have evidence that allows that.
Can you prove its an outlier? If not then stop claiming/making that argument. Prove the lore contradicts (I literally proved it supports it). Maybe you should consider that its possible for people to upscale. Its called being a shone series and getting stronger over time
The meteor scales to country level, Saitama overpowered it making him scale to country level atleast. Genos watches and sees the strength of Saitama at the time, he compared this strength to Gougetsu. Not sure whats hard to comprehend here.
Ad homenin gg?
I'll cover 2 and 4 here: What Saitama overpowered was the GPE of the meteor. Which probably wouldn't break tier 7.
Why do I need to? The feats speak for themselves ad weren't casual.
Most likely.
- 435
- 266
Why boros could still scale above gouketsu he would just scale to that specific feat
- 4,940
- 1,841
- Thread starter
- #176
Ok sorry for that lol
- 4,940
- 1,841
- Thread starter
- #177
Ok ill use your logic here. If Saitama overpowered the GBE then he scales regardless as the GBE was capable of holding in that energy which literally explodes the moment the meteor takes any damaged that allows it to be broken apart. Not only this, but Saitama literally takes the explosion as well. This refutes nothing.
- 4,940
- 1,841
- Thread starter
- #178
Anyways finna start playing genshin, ill respond back later ill also get more people to give input here
- 42,622
- 36,897
The explosion was his punch. Not the meteor's power.
- 3,116
- 3,545
dude thinks gouketsu should be high 6-A bc genos said he is powerful like saitama
- 20,529
- 17,434
Actually, no. GBE and Kinetic Energy don't have much to do with each other really. Because the object moving at such speeds has the energy spread around it and its not taking the full recoil until it hits something.
In other words the meteor wouldn't be taking its full energy until impact, where it would be vaporized because the current assumption has it moving at like 1.5 million m/s
GPE doesn't work either, you'd need to find the left over energy from the meteor's slowdown and subtract it by the energy of the fragments. Though at that point Reaper would be right that it would be closer to 7-C or 7-B rather than Tier 6.
- 42,622
- 36,897
They want 6-B. Not High 6-A.
- 435
- 266
Dont strawman me i was just asking questions
- 24,975
- 26,822
People are trying to upgrade Gouketsu to 6-A. As well as scaling Genos and Metal Knight to a 6-B meteor. As well as scaling peak Psykorochi to a weakened one as well as scaling others to her
- 42,622
- 36,897
- 20,529
- 17,434
As a straight answer the OP is saying that since Genos considered that Saitama needed backup to take down Goketsu, he should scale to the meteor's KE since he's seen Saitama exert at least that much effort before.
The High 6-A was dropped. The most this would be is 6-A under the assumption that Genos knew the ship tilt was due to Saitama rather than Tornado. OP dropped it after he learned what we had the meteor at.
azontr
He/Him- 40,519
- 50,160
Thanks for the summary dude. And here's my response.
WHAT????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? HOW???????????? WHY???????
- 435
- 266
Isn't it fun to push the envelope
- 24,975
- 26,822
- 20,529
- 17,434
@DaReaperMan @Maharaj
I jumped a gun a bit, and for that I apologize. But as a final warning stay on topic in regards to the thread. One off comments and hot takes aren't contributing to this.
I jumped a gun a bit, and for that I apologize. But as a final warning stay on topic in regards to the thread. One off comments and hot takes aren't contributing to this.
- 435
- 266
There is a statment in The databook that implies that if they worked together they could have stopped it
- 42,622
- 36,897
Which one was it? My most recent comment was just clarifying things
- 435
- 266
Also that would be genos imagined saitama
- 20,529
- 17,434
You just sorta. quoted someone saying what a bunch. Which is why I said I jumped the gun, that was rash mistake on my part rather than a legitimate fault.
azontr
He/Him- 40,519
- 50,160
Why would you just trust Genos? Saitama has literally never actually tried to beat someone ever anytime ever. Why would a single statement from a Genos who hasn't even seen the depths of his master's strength matter?
- 42,622
- 36,897
Ah gotcha, no worries
- 435
- 266
Because he knows that saitama destroyed the meteor and thought that gouketsu was comparable, this after getting a read on his energy signatur, so he wouldn't scale to actuall saitama
- Status
