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so your saying genos is scaling gouketsu to his image of saitama or are you scaling gouketsu to the meteor after genos saw saitama smash it?
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Several OPM character upgrades
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azontr
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And a single statement from a single guy who we don't even know is completely accurate is enough for upgrades. At best, this will get a likely 6-B, at worst it gets outright rejected.
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Its not a random guy its genos who can sense energy levels and disaster levels
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correct you on 2 things
what genos thinks isn't important to gouketsus tier and scaling gouketsu so an attack he had no involvement with makes 0 sense
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Why isn't genos statment valid
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scaling ppl based on respect/opinions they have on others isnt valid here. what genos thinks of saitama IS. NOT IMPORTANT. to gouketsu, its the feats that we scale. not opinions others have.
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This.
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I've contacted a bunch of listed OPM supporters. They'll weigh in and we'll go from there.
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Why you are just repeating talking points a lot of one punch man scaling is based on statment like Gyoro-Gyoro thinking she can beat tatsumaki who she thinks can beat EC is a thing here
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Because Gyoro Gyoro is far more intelligent than Genos is
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Ok? Wrongs don't make a right, dude.
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You still haven't explained why statments from Characters who are known to be able to read strength leves are irrelevant
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statements are statements, not feats.
just because genos states gouketsu is comparable to saitama doesnt mean he is, its the feats that count, not statements unless proven otherwise
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It is one statement from one character. That isn't how you do upgrades, my friend. We need way more than that to scale Gouketsu to Saitama's feat.
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This is just dogmatic at this point like these Characters have been established to be able to sense strength levels and make judgments of that and your just ignoring it
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Why, one statment from genos was enough to make gouketsu considerd stronger than carnage kabuto
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Even if it was legit, it'd just be a massive outlier
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Wrongs don't make rights. If that needs to be addressed, a separate CRT will be made to do so.
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Because Gouketsu has other showings to show that he's stronger than CK. Gouketsu scaling to the meteor or Boros' ship only has one iffy statement
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oh god not the outlier, you need to prove its a contradiction or its just gonna be moon level roshi all over again
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It's a different case. That actually has more to back it up than this does
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Gouketsu's strongest showing is the thing that put him at 7-A+. 7-A+ to 6-B is a massive ******* jump. So yeah... It's probably an outlier either way.
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Dragonball has nothing to do with this and I don't care what dragonball treats as an outlier or not.
In this case, these characters are consistently in tier 7 and have performed zero tier 6 feats. And their only tier 6 scaling is based off one iffy statement
So it's either several consistent tier 7 calculations and scaling or one iffy tier 6 scaling statement
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Just because its a big jump doesn't mean that it isn't logicaly possible or consistent
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for gouketsu case, its impossible. what he scales from is not related in any way to something close to 6-B
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It is literally his strongest showing before his death. 7-A to 6-B is literally 5 entire ******* tiers. That is an insane jump.
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The meteor is 6-B and is a dragon, boros General scales to Island level and is a dragon. Also calcs with manga panels are highly subjective gouketsus cloud feat could easily be tier 6
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6-C at the very highest, not close to 6-B
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If you think it could be tier 6 calc it yourself and see if it comes out as that and gets accepted.
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No cringe, that would just mean everyone upscale
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Gouketsu's calc is nowhere near 6-B. Boros' generals scale to their own 6-C calcs. And no one other than Boros or Orochi scales to Geryuganshoop, and even then his 6-C is only a possibly.
The meteor is a different case entirely, it's a natural disaster and not a monster.
So the only tier 6 dragons is one solid 6-C dragon, a possibly 6-C dragon, and a 6-B dragon that scales to no one because it's a special case.
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Its literally in The calc as a high end it just wasn't accepted as a high end
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Because the timeframe is wrong.
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We usually use the low-end anyway. And the High-End wouldn't have been accepted due to some supposed problems with the calculation.
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Is it objectively wrong? Prove it
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Why are you questioning the calc here? High-End wasn't accepted by calc group. Unless you wanna re-calc it, shut up about it please.
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calm down a little, dont want you to get in trouble
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We use anime timeframes. Those are just wiki rules. The anime timeframe has the feat at 5 seconds
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Lol, I said please. But seriously, I'll calm down, I still get aggravated easily sometimes.
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