Seven Deadly Sin Revisions(Speed)

[ByAsura]

Here's the scaling for the sub relativistic calc

Meliodas: at least Sub-Relativistic+, (Saved Elizabeth and moved this fast), Relativistic with Demon Mark(Kept up with Full Power Demon King and blitzed him at one point), higher with Assault Mode, Even Higher with True Magic.

Ban: Relativistic( Kept up with Full Power Demon King)

King: Relativistic( Kept up with Full Power Demon King)

Escanor: Relativistic( Kept up with Full Power Demon King), higher in The One, even higher in The One Ultimate.

Merlin: Possibly Relativistic (fast enough to fake out Full Power Demon King)

Arthur Pendragon: At Least Relativistic( with the power of chaos he should be above Full Power Demon King)

I disagree somewhat. They did keep up with him together, but they were outclassed individually, and even The One was only on par with him.

Can the changes be applied?

When the thread is over.

 

[Majinere566]

I disagree somewhat. They did keep up with him together, but they were outclassed individually, and even The One was only on par with him.

They can get a possibly rating then? And I'm not sure on this but wasn't Escanor actually landing attacks on the full power demon king?

 

[ByAsura]

I'd just go with at most/at least sub-rel+ since DK is only a little bit above baseline Rel.

Because he's close enough to. Doesn't mean he's equal (I'm assuming you mean near-noon, The One definitely is equal).

 

[Majinere566]

I'd just go with at most/at least sub-rel+ since DK is only a little bit above baseline Rel.

Because he's close enough to. Doesn't mean he's equal (I'm assuming you mean near-noon, The One definitely is equal).

Understood so Ban and King can get an at most rating while escanor can get a Rel rating in the one

 

[Majinere566]

Here's the scaling for the sub relativistic calc

Meliodas: at least Sub-Relativistic+, (Saved Elizabeth and moved this fast), Relativistic with Demon Mark(Kept up with Full Power Demon King and blitzed him at one point), higher with Assault Mode, Even Higher with True Magic.

Ban: Possibly Relativistic( Kept up with Full Power Demon King)

King: Possibly Relativistic( Kept up with Full Power Demon King)

Escanor: Relativistic( Kept up with Full Power Demon King and somewhat blitzs him ), higher in The One, even higher in The One Ultimate.

Merlin: Possibly Relativistic (fast enough to fake out Full Power Demon King)

Arthur Pendragon: At Least Relativistic( with the power of chaos he should be above Full Power Demon King)

Cath Palug: Relativistic(Kept up with Merlin )

Zeldris: Possibly Relativistic (Kept up with Demon Mark Meliodas),Higher with Ominous Nebula(doubles it's speed)

updated

 

[speedster352]

bump

 

[Majinere566]

Here's the scaling for the sub relativistic calc

Meliodas: at least Sub-Relativistic+, (Saved Elizabeth and moved this fast), Relativistic with Demon Mark(Kept up with Full Power Demon King and blitzed him at one point), higher with Assault Mode, Even Higher with True Magic.

Ban: Possibly Relativistic( Kept up with Full Power Demon King)

King: Possibly Relativistic( Kept up with Full Power Demon King)

Escanor: Relativistic( Kept up with Full Power Demon King and somewhat blitzs him ), higher in The One, even higher in The One Ultimate.

Merlin: Possibly Relativistic (fast enough to fake out Full Power Demon King)

Arthur Pendragon: At Least Relativistic( with the power of chaos he should be above Full Power Demon King)

Cath Palug: Relativistic(Kept up with Merlin )

Zeldris: Possibly Relativistic (Kept up with Demon Mark Meliodas),Higher with Ominous Nebula(doubles it's speed)

Byasura do you agree with this?

 

[speedster352]

So sol lodo is still not accepted?

 

[Majinere566]

So sol lodo is still not accepted?

I honestly don't know, the statement is pretty straightforward

 

[ByAsura]

I think Escanor should be something like

Escanor: Relativistic (Managed to somewhat blitz the Demon King), higher in The One (Equal to the Demon King), even higher in The One Ultimate.

That way, it makes it clear why some characters are downscaled.

 

[Majinere566]

I think Escanor should be something like

Escanor: Relativistic (Managed to somewhat blitz the Demon King), higher in The One (Equal to the Demon King), even higher in The One Ultimate.

That way, it makes it clear why some characters are downscaled.

Done

 

[Majinere566]

Since we're in agreement with the sub rel part of the thread.

The thread is 1/2 done

What about SOL Ludociel?

 

[speedster352]

Since we're in agreement with the sub rel part of the thread.

The thread is 1/2 done

What about SOL Ludociel?

I agree with it

 

[Majinere566]

I agree with it

I also agree with it but we still need more input. I've also addressed some of the rebuttals and there's no response

 

[speedster352]

I also agree with it but we still need more input. I've also addressed some of the rebuttals and there's no response

Ask byashura if he agrees and for him to show the mods the crt

 

[Zezu1995]

I think Escanor should be something like

Escanor: Relativistic (Managed to somewhat blitz the Demon King), higher in The One (Equal to the Demon King), even higher in The One Ultimate.

That way, it makes it clear why some characters are downscaled.

escanor also outpaced ON 2X speed to save merlin

 

[Majinere566]

escanor also outpaced ON 2X speed to save merlin

I thought he more like let himself get sucked in so he could save her, Gilthunder did the same

 

[Zezu1995]

I thought he more like let himself get sucked in so he could save her, Gilthunder did the same

not possibly unless u were closer... merlin was right next to him .. escanor would have to use HIS own speed to save her.. as for gilthunder thats outliner

 

[ByAsura]

Unless ON's attacks aren't fast, just unavoidable.

 

[Rabbit2002]

Unless ON's attacks aren't fast, just unavoidable.

Actually, it spin the darkness with FTL speed to make it hard to attack the user

 

[ByAsura]

That's what makes the vacuum. I think the slashing attack is something else.

 

[Zezu1995]

That's what makes the vacuum. I think the slashing attack is something else.

it does both , his darkness is still an attacker.. its just moving at speeds to suck people in and then it also attacks them at the same time

 

[ByAsura]

Seems like an outlier for both of them, then.

Even The One could barely break through it.

It's worth noting that Hendrickson also does something similar when he stops Chandler's attack.

 

[speedster352]

bump

 

[Majinere566]

What about SOL Ludociel?

 

[ByAsura]

Pretty much everyone except a few people seem to agree.

 

[speedster352]

Pretty much everyone except a few people seem to agree.

So what's the plan? Who scales to or above ludo?

 

[ByAsura]

Chaos and the characters with Flash.

 

[Majinere566]

Chaos and the characters with Flash.

And Zeldris gets a possibly rating FTL

Actually shouldn't chaos be faster?

 

[ByAsura]

Yes.

Definitely, sorry for not being clear.

 

[speedster352]

Chaos and the characters with Flash.

With flash? Or has reacted to flash?

 

[ByAsura]

With Flash. Ludo was weakened against Cusack.

Oh, and likely Zeldris' sword skills, but he was portrayed as a little slower.

 

[Majinere566]

Oh, and likely Zeldris' sword skills, but he was portrayed as a little slower.

If with sword skills some people would then scale to him

 

[ByAsura]

Like who? He's explicitly the fastest Demon swordsman.

 

[Majinere566]

Like who? He's explicitly the fastest Demon swordsman.

I can't double check right now but from my recollection

1. Mael
2. That Hermitt thing Demon King meliodas released
3. Dahila

 

[ByAsura]

That should be fine, then.

Although I think it's weird Mael scales considering that Flash is Grace designed for speed amps, especially since he fought 2nd Mark Zel.

 

[Majinere566]

That should be fine, then.

Although I think it's weird Mael scales considering that Flash is Grace designed for speed amps, especially since he fought 2nd Mark Zel.

Wasn't there a statement of mael that mael surpasses ludociel like around high noon?

But as you said earlier Zeldris was a bit slower than ludociel sword skill wise so mael keeping up wouldn't be that much weird. And then other people scale to Mael and Dahila.


If someone can call Zeldris Sword Movements then we can a definite rating for them

 

[ByAsura]

In strength.

Ludoshel was a little faster than his first mark, Mael was outclassing his 2nd mark.

 

[GroundX1]

because "possibly FTL"?, zeldris with ON had not surpassed Ludociel?

 

[Majinere566]

Wasn't 2nd Demon Mark Zeldris faster with Ominous Nebula? So without it, it would make sense that mael kept up with him