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Seven Deadly Sin Revisions(Speed)

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ByAsura said:
At most Sub-Relativistic: DK Zeldris (weakest state)

Sub-Relativistic: Base Meliodas, <Elizabeth with Ark?>

At least Sub-Relativistic: 50% Deities, Ban, King, Demon Meliodas, 2nd Form Demon King, Meliodas Demon King

At most Relativistic: (Very) Near-Noon Escanor

Relativistic: 100% Deities, Youth Demon King, Assault Mode, The One/Ultimate One Escanor, True Magic, Chaos/Arthur
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agree the scale for the sub rel
 
Majinere566 said:
He's Equal to the Supreme Deity narratively...
I thought we established when and how we know he's using flash?
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Equal power-wise. Flash itself is an amp. Plus, Ban and base Meliodas, while outclassed, kept up with his half power state (who'd just be at half speed in your scaling).

I don't remember that.
 
ByAsura said:
while outclassed, kept up with his half power state (who'd just be at half speed in your scaling).
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Half? They only encounter Demon King Meliodas(albeit King was fatigued)

And they both fight full power demon king and keep up with him.
ByAsura said:
I don't remember that.
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Iirc you said it works in short burst so the ludociel that got tagged by drole wouldn't be moving SOL
 
We agreed earlier on possibly FTL because Ludoshel didn't actually say it surpassed him, he just questioned whether it did.
 
ByAsura said:
We agreed earlier on possibly FTL because Ludoshel didn't actually say it surpassed him, he just questioned whether it did.
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That's fine although none of the assault force could even handle the amped ON even Merlins teleport couldn't keep up anymore. I know ludo was questioning it but it is still a possibility to be FTL. I am talking about amped ON not the previous one.
 
I'd say another key should suffice.
Majinere566 said:
Oh yeah, wasn't there a statement that says he'd be a monster when he returns to the mortal plane? But he would still keep up with a full powered demon king
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I think that refers to True Magic (at least if you're referring to what I think you're referring to).
 
I don't mean kill by one-shot, more just floor them.

Either way, Zeldris was weaker than Mael before, and but he's way closer to Ban here.
 
ByAsura said:
I don't mean kill by one-shot, more just floor them.

Either way, Zeldris was weaker than Mael before, and but he's way closer to Ban here.
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Does the new key for Zeldris still have his abilities? Should Meliodas also get a new key same for SD?
 
Not sure about a Meliodas key (although I'd argue he's stronger than Ban and King), but I think all that Zeldris lost were his maybe God abilities/resistance to magic (he might still have them) and Commandment.
 
ByAsura said:
Not sure about a Meliodas key (although I'd argue he's stronger than Ban and King), but I think all that Zeldris lost were his maybe God abilities/resistance to magic (he might still have them) and Commandment.
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Why might Zeldris have resitance to magic I thought the demon king removed it?
Edit I think he could still have resistance to magic.
 
I just don't remember if DK took back the magic he stole, which is entirely possible after he left Zel. All I remember is him bypassing magic resistance to attack Zeldris.
 
ByAsura said:
I just don't remember if DK took back the magic he stole, which is entirely possible after he left Zel. All I remember is him bypassing magic resistance to attack Zeldris.
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I agree it is still a possibilty that he has it. I reread the chapter and it's a little vague so he could still have it.
Edit Would Zeldris' ap change?
 
ByAsura said:
Movie Key.

Even Ban was outclassed by SD, yet Zeldris kept up with her.
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ban was fine tho, he did better than everyone even absorbed her power which btw needs to be added to his profile
ByAsura said:
I just don't remember if DK took back the magic he stole, which is entirely possible after he left Zel. All I remember is him bypassing magic resistance to attack Zeldris.
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and yes DK took back god the question would be did zeldris get it back? and why didnt he use it against sins but that could be another juha situation
 
He did better than everyone except Zeldris and Mel. Plus, King was destroyed as well, so the scaling isn't that much different.

Can you rephrase that second part if possible?
 
im saying DK had GOD return to him or possibly SHUT DOWN the ability thats how he hit zeldris. Tho GOD imo only works with blast type magic... cuz magic punches,swords blades etc still work
 
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https://gyazo.com/2d417975930c1bb5219977d23207b1c8 dont this help the flash situation? light burns right?
 
Here's the scaling for the sub relativistic calc

Meliodas: at least Sub-Relativistic+, (Saved Elizabeth and moved this fast), Relativistic with Demon Mark(Kept up with Full Power Demon King and blitzed him at one point), higher with Assault Mode, Even Higher with True Magic.

Ban: Possibly Relativistic( Kept up with Full Power Demon King)

King: Possibly Relativistic( Kept up with Full Power Demon King)

Escanor: Relativistic( Managed to somewhat blitzs The Demon King ), higher in The One(Equal to the Demon King), even higher in The One Ultimate.

Merlin: Possibly Relativistic (fast enough to fake out Full Power Demon King)

Arthur Pendragon: At Least Relativistic( with the power of chaos he should be above Full Power Demon King)

Cath Palug: Relativistic(Kept up with Merlin )

Zeldris: Possibly Relativistic (Kept up with Demon Mark Meliodas),Higher with Ominous Nebula(doubles it's speed)
 
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Majinere566 said:
Here's the scaling for the sub relativistic calc

Meliodas: at least Sub-Relativistic+, (Saved Elizabeth and moved this fast), Relativistic with Demon Mark(Kept up with Full Power Demon King and blitzed him at one point), higher with Assault Mode, Even Higher with True Magic.

Ban: Relativistic( Kept up with Full Power Demon King)

King: Relativistic( Kept up with Full Power Demon King)

Escanor: Relativistic( Kept up with Full Power Demon King), higher in The One, even higher in The One Ultimate.

Merlin: Possibly Relativistic (fast enough to fake out Full Power Demon King)

Arthur Pendragon: At Least Relativistic( with the power of chaos he should be above Full Power Demon King)
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I agree when can these changes be applied?
 
Majinere566 said:
Here's the scaling for the sub relativistic calc

Meliodas: at least Sub-Relativistic+, (Saved Elizabeth and moved this fast), Relativistic with Demon Mark(Kept up with Full Power Demon King and blitzed him at one point), higher with Assault Mode, Even Higher with True Magic.

Ban: Relativistic( Kept up with Full Power Demon King)

King: Relativistic( Kept up with Full Power Demon King)

Escanor: Relativistic( Kept up with Full Power Demon King), higher in The One, even higher in The One Ultimate.

Merlin: Possibly Relativistic (fast enough to fake out Full Power Demon King)

Arthur Pendragon: At Least Relativistic( with the power of chaos he should be above Full Power Demon King)
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Don't forget Cath
 
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