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Sengoku trolled Akainu a little too much this time (3/3/0)
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DaMonkeMan
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Is this prime Sengoku? I think he wins either way but y'know..
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I noted it was second key, AKA the one that doesn't scale to Prime ****** Whitebeard of all people
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Sengoku does seem to have an edge in skill doesn't he?
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Sengoku easily clashed with and damaged Blackbeard who seems to scale above that version of Akainu.
So.. voting Sengoku.
So.. voting Sengoku.
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Well BB's main dura feat is taking attacks from WB in a very similar way Akainu did, so... yeh?
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He arguably took them better than Akainu though.
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True enough, but it's not like it's a major difference, plus Akainu has some decent AoE and dura neg
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So does Sengoku. Plus a size/durability advantage.
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Sengoku actually lacks dura neg, so Akainu could definitely donut him ala Whitebeard
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Does he not fight with shockwaves?
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Inherently Shockwaves aren't dura neg with no feats, it's only when you pull something like Whitebeard or Garou can do that they become dura neg.
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Yeah but he could clash with BB's shockwaves though.
Either way I'd vote Sengoku though.
Either way I'd vote Sengoku though.
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of course, they're both shockwaves, of course they'd all but cancel eachother out if comparable, but remember, Blackbeard had JUST gotten the Gura Gura no mi at the time, he only had the bare bitch basics, so chances are he couldn't pull any of the precision of Whitebeard to achieve that dura neg effect.
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Bump
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Voting Akainu, BB was afraid of taking on Akainu alone even with his entire crew yet was combating Sengoku & Garp during the war and damaged them. Akainu's buso potency can allow him to resist even haki users from damaging his true body as he did with Marco & Vista. Akainu's Magma dura neg would make any attack he lands fatal.
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-Assumes that BB running from Akainu means he was scared when he probably just couldn't afford all the casualties from fighting him
-Also assumes that Akainu can resist getting hurt by Sengoku even though Sickbeard was clapping his cheeks
Hm.
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Literally on his profile as a justification for his AP but I guess you couldn't be bothered reading that, also your headcanon on BB's reasons literally contradict his character.
I'm not assuming anything as Sengoku lacks any form of buso potency scaling that would let him do so, WB does.
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BTW, what Potency does Sengoku have with each haki? It's not listed on his profile
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Iirc, if a character is confirmed to have a specific form of Haki, but hasn't displayed it in the story, we just put it on there with no proficiency and assume they at least have a baseline application of it.
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That is a very blatant lie, because after that he says this.Literally on his profile as a justification for his AP but I guess you couldn't be bothered reading that, also your headcanon on BB's reasons literally contradict his character.
Fair, I can only assume he has good Armament due to fighting Shiki but nothing's confirmed so for now you're technically right.
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Personally I think it's probable that Sengoku has AP but Akainu does have a really good Devil Fruit, the matter is getting close enough to use it
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It's not a lie you just missed the point, that comment from BB is in response to him underestimating Magellan which is a consistent thing he does and is noted to be his weakness, this overconfident personality is why I'm saying your headcanon contradicts him. However, when he is cautious it's evident that he doesn't believe he can win as was the case with Shanks, Akainu, Rayleigh (Although this was based on reputation) & even Bullet in Stampede.
Akainu doesn't even need that BB point to justify his scaling though as "His Devil Fruit has been stated to have the Highest Offensive Power of all Devil Fruits" covers the Gura Gura no Mi thus putting him above the version of BB that was contending with both Sengoku & Garp.
For whatever tier they scale to like intermediate or Advanced what Cinos said covers this. For potency layers which is what allowed Akainu to still remain in logia form despite being hit by haki users it depends on there actual feats of scaling with buso.
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How is it headcanon when he literally begs someone not to kill him after that?
Anyway I suppose Akainu could win only because Sengoku weirdly hasn't shown any Haki feats despite being stated to have all 3 types of it.
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I'd put that statement more to Akainu having some potent dura neg rather then pure AP, since he and Ace are considered comparable and WB rekt'd them both
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You're wrong, it's literally accepted as an AP statement & this very reasoning was rejected before.
Ace could contend with a casual Whitebeard but was still one-shot by the Gura Gura no Mi. Akainu could contend with whitebeard's quakes.
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When?
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Literally twice on one page they're shown matching each other with their DFs but I guess you'd rather cope that WB was holding back his attacks intended to destroy Marine Headquarters.
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We don't see the end of that 2nd clash.
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The anime showed the clash was equal just like the previous one, which was obvious considering both are shown to be fine a few pages later.
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Akainu FRA
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BTW do ya'll think Prime Sengoku would be more fair?
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Definitely
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