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You are? The fact that you still have no solid evidence and yet act like your points still have meaning when they don't is the perfect example of misleading people. I truly cannot understand why this is so shocking for you and your fellow supporting members to grasp and understand. I thought that the wiki prizes accuracy over misinformation and yet here we are with your behaviour.Rocker1189 said:Sorry but if you thought that was meant to be an arguement then I don't know what to think. Especially when the first thing you did was accuse me if misleading people.
Do u not know what "times" mean?Xulrev said:Mmhmm, he shifted up by what multiplier, precisely? Where did you get the numbers? I see none in any scans, regrettably.
The OP doesn't state anything concrete about the increase in speed being based off a multiplier, so no, you truly don't have anything worth discussing. And as far as behaviour goes, you haven't exactly been that great here with this attitude.Rocker1189 said:The fact that you act like I have no evidence when it is in the OP is the truly misleading part. You really can not fathom people have different interpretations to you that bad that you have to say they are deliberately misleading people. Not that I have not noticed your behaviour in LoL based threads.
Because he derailed first and attacked me personally.Xulrev said:@Rocker
This makes the second personal attack you have gone out of your way to commit in your own threads, derailing them for the sake of ad hominem
Disagreeing is one thing saying that it is a stretch when it is a very valid interpretation is another.StrongClick said:The OP is a strech to say the least, Damage and Xulrev make the most sense here
Xulrev said:@Rocker
This makes the second personal attack you have gone out of your way to commit in your own threads, derailing them for the sake of ad hominem
I have pointed out that the supporting reasoning being proposed is not suitable at all and that I am surprised that people seem to accept such reasoning. Should you not try to revamp your argument or reconsider it with the amount of discussion generated? The point is clear; this upgrade seems very unlikely due to a lack of clarification and acting otherwise simply exposes biases.Rocker1189 said:I have not been great but at least I start with engaging in the argument not the people themselves. Look man based on your track history in threads I have participated in with you if you are putting anything in your replies that is just based on insulting me or other Naruto people here I am just ignoring you. You can argue the point or you can go away.
its u who is derails the thread by talking about db over mangaXulrev said:If you wish to agree to disagree you can simply not respond to me. You come off disingenous if you continue to do so, realistically, and it derails the thread further.
Its not tho thats the thingRocker1189 said:Disagreeing is one thing saying that it is a stretch when it is a very valid interpretation is another.
To accept this means you'd have to accept the x100 multiplier the 8th gate grants.DarkDragonMedeus said:"Can be shifted up to speed from 1 to 5" Actually does sound like was 1x faster is now 5x faster. That being said, multipliers aren't always consistent so I'm neutral on using it for an upgrade. But the context does sound more like it multiplies his speed by 5.
why both are not sameSigurd Snake in The Eye said:To accept this means you'd have to accept the x100 multiplier the 8th gate grants.
He needs the 8th gate to use that technique which means his base speed is multiplied by whatever multiplier gate of death gives and once again by Sekizo if you believe it's a multiplier as well.DarkDragonMedeus said:@Sigurd, that's completely different. The problem with that one was it being a mistranslation, not that it says a hundred times. It only says Dozens of times in the Japanese version for 8th gate.
Can be shifted up to speed from 1 to 5RegisNex1232 said:But it doesn't specify anywhere. The whole statement does not make it out to be a multiplier, and yet people are acting like it does.
^Elizhaa said:I will be honest the context of shift up sounds confusing for a Multipliers so I will think @Damage3245's and @Xulrev's points are more likely to be true.
Assuming, there are raw scans that better indicate Multipliers; I would agree with the OP.