Might Guy vs Ram (Re:Zero) [8-6-0]

[karo_senpaii]

Ram does not require the target to possess mana or a mana wavelength.
she adapts her own wavelength to the opponent’s state and synchronizes directly with body, synapses, and soul.

"What ram links with is full body mana wavelength". Literally your own words.

Chakra is not a passive, universal immunity to mental, soul, or informational interaction. In Naruto, chakra users are routinely affected unless they actively disrupt the interaction. Claiming chakra “already protects him” requires proof of a passive resistance to soul-level synchronization, which hasn’t been shown. In fact the reason Guy even learnt to read his opponents from the movement of their feet is precisely because of this.

Who said it is passive? The moment she tries to link with guy he would use his chakra to resist it.

Also please drop scans for the soul part. Can't see it anywhere

Genjutsu is illusion based and works by altering perception via chakra injection. Ram’s Clairvoyance is direct synchronization, not illusion or perception manipulation. Which is why genjutsu resistances do not automatically apply.

This isn't genjutsu.
I have no idea what you're saying.

Ram does not recreate chakra pathways or specific biologies, she synchronizes with the opponent and reproduces the resulting phenomenon using her own system, which is consistent with how she has copied abilities she had no prior framework for such as authorities

Exactly why she can't do it. Coz for this ability to work is dependant on your biology itself which since she can't recreate, she can't do

The Eight Gates are simply one method of achieving extreme physical output by forcibly removing chakra limiters, not the output itself, so Ram does not need to open Gates to replicate Guy’s skill, timing, and power routing through mana reinforcement.

Yeah which means she would simply replicate putting limiters on herself, dropping her power level, then forcefully removing it. Thus gaining nothing and messing up her body.

Claiming that she would kill herself faster is speculative, as Clairvoyance optimizes movement and execution rather than causing reckless strain, and no feat is shown where copying a technique inherently results in greater self-damage than the original user.

Not to mention, Ram has regeneration as well so she just heals.

It's not speculative. It would kill her.
It's not the copying the technique that results in self damage. The technique itself kills her because without training it just completely ***** up her body.

 

[Thunderman101]

guy fra

 

[VortechsTG]

Ram fra

 

[Lilybitdun]

Alright grace is cancelled now as point difference is now only 2

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Alright grace is cancelled now as point difference is now only 2

Can we even count all the “Ram FRA” when she doesn’t even have a solid wincon to be voted for? Or was given to be voted for,

 

[DavidTPPM]

Grace also ended solid 10 hours before the 6th Ram vote lmao

 

[Lilybitdun]

Grace also ended solid 10 hours before the 6th Ram vote lmao

Wait it did? I wasn't keeping count lol

 

[Lilybitdun]

Can we even count all the “Ram FRA” when she doesn’t even have a solid wincon to be voted for? Or was given to be voted for,

I'm not gonna null people's votes since that seems unfair, if they wanna change their votes based on newer arguments they can

 

[DavidTPPM]

Wait it did? I wasn't keeping count lol

Yeah Thundermans vote was the last for Guy which was on Friday. Vortech voted on Sunday.

Meaning even without counting the exact hours it's impossible for less than 24 hours to have passed.

 

[Lilybitdun]

So does that mean the thread is over? I've already added Vortech's vote

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

So does that mean the thread is over? I've already added Vortech's vote

Just put a bracket saying (after grace) after his name

 

[Lilybitdun]

Checked it to be sure, the match is over so this can be added to profiles then