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Thragg vs Might Guy [13-12-0]

the very first part of what you quoted is literally what I said
It doesn't. You said Thragg has MFTL+ travel speed.

Thragg uses his MFTL+ Travel speed to outrun guy and destroy the planet once he sees how much damage guy can actually do to him

seikizo can't really hold him down because of the LS advantage and guy only uses night guy at then end of the 8th gate while thragg usually just nukes the planet when pushed and he def would get pushed considering the AP advantage guy has here

edit: nvm thraggs travel speed would be ftl but thats still beyond guys so its the same outcome

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He doesn't in this match.


Yeah thats why I said the page should list that his speed works through acceleration
Viltrumites speed amp makes them mftl+ though. So he would just gain that increase when he decides to go faster
What you said here was not similar.
 
It doesn't. You said Thragg has MFTL+ travel speed.
and then I said nvm it would be equated to guys speed and drop to FTL
oh yeah technically his travel speed would be FTL since his combat and travel are both the same and thats being equated to guys combat-
The very post ur even quoting even has me acknowledging this
Thragg uses his MFTL+ Travel speed to outrun guy and destroy the planet once he sees how much damage guy can actually do to him

seikizo can't really hold him down because of the LS advantage and guy only uses night guy at then end of the 8th gate while thragg usually just nukes the planet when pushed and he def would get pushed considering the AP advantage guy has here

edit: nvm thraggs travel speed would be ftl but thats still beyond guys so its the same outcome

thragg fra
 
Also ****, if we're gonna keep harping on rules, then Guy's speed amps above Thragg would make this invalid. Guy in 8th gate is already rated as FTL, he then can amp himself 5x through Sekizo or Sekizo itself gains a 5x speed amp, then Night Guy is considered faster than that.

Any speed equalized match, in which a major reason a character loses is due to having a disadvantage against some speed value they usually wouldn't have a disadvantage against, may not be added to profiles.
  • As a result, winning a speed equalized match against a faster opponent due to a speed boost so large that it blitzes the opponent will not be added.
So either you all agree Night Guy is dodgeable and thus Thragg just flies away at ftl speeds or the match becomes invalid due to Guy having over a 5x speed amp.
 
Also ****, if we're gonna keep harping on rules, then Guy's speed amps above Thragg would make this invalid. Guy in 8th gate is already rated as FTL, he then can amp himself 5x through Sekizo or Sekizo itself gains a 5x speed amp, then Night Guy is considered faster than that.


So either you all agree Night Guy is dodgeable and thus Thragg just flies away at ftl speeds or the match becomes invalid due to Guy having over a 5x speed amp.
5x speed amp? Where are the scans? Genuinely if you could help us pull off this upgrade we'd Greatly appreciate in the Naruto discussion thread
 
5x speed amp? Where are the scans? Genuinely if you could help us pull off this upgrade we'd Greatly appreciate in the Naruto discussion thread
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I don't know much about Might Guy, but Thragg's starting move is toss into space

What does Guy do about that?
 
He can increase his speed 5 times ≠ he has a 5 times speed increase
I can see you guys have already debated the semantics on this, seems egregious to twist the meaning but alright.

Even if you guys don't accept it as a 5x, the point still stands Guy's amps would allow him to blitz Thragg making the match invalid. So like I said, either the Naruto supporters drop the idea Thragg can't dodge at ftl flight speed and figure out a different reason for why Thragg loses here cause right now Night Guy isn't touching him.
 
I can see you guys have already debated the semantics on this, seems egregious to twist the meaning but alright.

Even if you guys don't accept it as a 5x, the point still stands Guy's amps would allow him to blitz Thragg making the match invalid. So like I said, either the Naruto supporters drop the idea Thragg can't dodge at ftl flight speed and figure out a different reason for why Thragg loses here cause right now Night Guy isn't touching him.
At this thread, we are considering thragg's speed as madaras speed(atleast i do)
So thragg is able to react might guy but he cant avoid it like how madara unable to avoid it even tough he has enough reaction speed for it. But thragg just wouldnt be able take guys attacks because, someone who is stronger and more durable than him cant survive
 
So thragg is able to react might guy but he cant avoid it like how madara unable to avoid it even tough he has enough reaction speed for it. But thragg just wouldnt be able take guys attacks because, someone who is stronger and more durable than him cant survive
Madara let himself get hit by Night Guy. He expresses throughout the fight he wants to experience the eighth gate. So when he sees Guy enter a stance and increasing his aura he defends instead of just flying away. Thragg wouldn't do this, he naturally flies in combat. So Thragg will most likely just be in mid air the whole time. Unless there's some reason why Guy can and would do Night Guy in mid air I see no reason Thragg's getting hit.
 
Madara let himself get hit by Night Guy. He expresses throughout the fight he wants to experience the eighth gate. So when he sees Guy enter a stance and increasing his aura he defends instead of just flying away. Thragg wouldn't do this, he naturally flies in combat. So Thragg will most likely just be in mid air the whole time. Unless there's some reason why Guy can and would do Night Guy in mid air I see no reason Thragg's getting hit.
İ dont understand how do you think night guy cant fly via kicking air.
Why would he use night guy if he cant catch madara while flight? İts just stupid if he use it against someone who can fly.
You also need to consider that thragg get heavily damaged by sekizo and cant regenerate like madara so he cant really run from night guy.
 
İ dont understand how do you think night guy cant fly via kicking air.
Show it.

Why would he use night guy if he cant catch madara while flight? İts just stupid if he use it against someone who can fly.
Just explained this.

You also need to consider that thragg get heavily damaged by sekizo and cant regenerate like madara so he cant really run from night guy.
He fights with severe wounds for days. I think he's fine against barely a 2x ap diff.
 
Can he survive if half his body or even quarter his body gets erased. He'll get incacipated, no?
I've said this several times now. Even if I agree that Thragg gets hit, his physiology and endurance would let him survive longer than Guy would making it still his win.
 
I've said this several times now. Even if I agree that Thragg gets hit, his physiology and endurance would let him survive longer than Guy would making it still his win.
No he cant survive what madara survived
İm not gonna answer again, i already said the same thing 3 or 4 times
 
Reading this is kinda funny.

Thragg throws him into space as an opening move? Funny how he didn't do so against Battle Beast.
Thragg will stay out of range by flying? Funny how he didn't do so against battle beast either.
Thragg literally referenced how he no diffed BB in space and he doesn't try doing so while fighting him for DAYS. But sure apparently that's his opening move against someone who has actual mid-air mobility options.

People here are role-playing as Thragg instead of taking what he ACTUALLY does in character into account whatsoever. Soon people are going to say Thragg will just learn ssj3 on the spot to win
 
Thragg throws him into space as an opening move? Funny how he didn't do so against Battle Beast.
Who said he'd throw him in this thread? Also if you look at Thragg's page, the example is of him punching BB away.

Thragg will stay out of range by flying? Funny how he didn't do so against battle beast either.
He didn't need to, he was beating BB's ass and staying out of range is a couple meters for BB anyway, same as Eighth Gate guy not the others.
 
People here are role-playing as Thragg instead of taking what he ACTUALLY does in character into account whatsoever. Soon people are going to say Thragg will just learn ssj3 on the spot to win
Destroying the planets habitability when pushed is extremely in character for thragg and viltrumites in general wdym?
 
How does he detsroy it ?
Guy wouldnt let him do it
I have to agree with them on that. Guy cannot follow Thragg to space, which Viltrumites destroy planets by going for their core or moving at High speeds across the surface. I just think Guy pummels Thragg with attacks Madara almost died to and felt threatened by. Im not convinced or moved by Thragg's ability to survive without half his body as he cannot regenerate that fast or even to a detrimental degree. His whole head, or torso could be gone depending on where he gets striked by Guy's attacks. Its obvious Guy is going to be broken down in the end, imo Thragg just doesn't survive the damage. Guy upscales from his value by putting holes into Madara, I simply dont see why Thragg wouldnt get worse treatment being 2x weaker, can become 5x slower (because Guy amps himself) and his own abilities like attacking through air itself. Hence my vote
 
I have to agree with them on that. Guy cannot follow Thragg to space, which Viltrumites destroy planets by going for their core or moving at High speeds across the surface. I just think Guy pummels Thragg with attacks Madara almost died to and felt threatened by. Im not convinced or moved by Thragg's ability to survive without half his body as he cannot regenerate that fast or even to a detrimental degree. His whole head, or torso could be gone depending on where he gets striked by Guy's attacks. Its obvious Guy is going to be broken down in the end, imo Thragg just doesn't survive the damage. Guy upscales from his value by putting holes into Madara, I simply dont see why Thragg wouldnt get worse treatment being 2x weaker, can become 5x slower (because Guy amps himself) and his own abilities like attacking through air itself. Hence my vote
I wish I could find where to read Invincible, but the end of the BB fight shows Thragg severely damaged. Mark survived his organs falling out, Nolan survived his back being broken and also being pierced through by Thragg, Conquest survived his cracked skull and burned away skin. If yall acknowledge Thragg can react even just barely or begin to fly away since again, Guy needs to enter a stance for Night Guy, he'll avoid Guy's kick from hitting his torso. Or, Thragg thinks "these other attacks were ******* me up, let me avoid this giant dragon aura while he's entering his stance"
 
How does he detsroy it ?
The planets habitability? Shave the atmosphere, set the exosphere on fire (both of these he can do with his flight)

he could also just use his LS to throw the continent, thats an option as well
Guy wouldnt let him do it
Guy sorta has no choice but to let him do it since his travel speed is nowhere near thraggs meaning if thragg just leaves and starts breaking down the parts of the planet that guy needs to survive there isn't much he can do since he physically can't keep up with him
 
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Are y'all really saying that thragg sees guy and then immediately goes "this guy is twice as strong as me, lemme quickly destroy the planet atmosphere so he can't breath" ? What exactly is the logic here?
I'm of the opinion that threat would fight him and it would only be a last resort if he sees that nothing else is working, which won't happen coz realistically he'd see that guy body is breaking as he attacks so he'd think of tanking the guy out till he breaks apart , which would then backfire as guy locks him in space and wipes him out
 
Are y'all really saying that thragg sees guy and then immediately goes "this guy is twice as strong as me, lemme quickly destroy the planet atmosphere so he can't breath" ?
no we (or at least I anyway) am saying that Thagg would fight Guy for a bit, take some damage, and then decide "this fight isn't worth it, I'll just destroy the planets atmosphere so he can't breath"
What exactly is the logic here?
He fights guy -> gets pushed and maybe pissed off at how a human is pushing him this far -> he destroys the planets atmosphere
I'm of the opinion that threat would fight him and it would only be a last resort if he sees that nothing else is working
thragg has a very limited moveset so this wouldn't take long
, which won't happen coz realistically he'd see that guy body is breaking as he attacks so he'd think of tanking the guy out till he breaks apart , which would then backfire as guy locks him in space and wipes him

If Thragg is struggling to actually tank the hits then I don't see how he'd choose outlasting guy as a plausible wincon over just shearing the planet
 
no we (or at least I anyway) am saying that Thagg would fight Guy for a bit, take some damage, and then decide "this fight isn't worth it, I'll just destroy the planets atmosphere so he can't breath"
Exactly.

Are y'all really saying that thragg sees guy and then immediately goes "this guy is twice as strong as me, lemme quickly destroy the planet atmosphere so he can't breath" ? What exactly is the logic here?
I'm of the opinion that threat would fight him and it would only be a last resort if he sees that nothing else is working, which won't happen coz realistically he'd see that guy body is breaking as he attacks so he'd think of tanking the guy out till he breaks apart , which would then backfire as guy locks him in space and wipes him out
Read just like the 2 and third page cuz I've made it clear the fight would happen, but once Thragg understands Guy is stronger and sees him enter Night Guy stance and a giant red dragon he's not gonna stand there to take the attack head on.

So either Guy ends up dying Thragg sustaining severe damage but survives long enough same like what happened with BB or Thragg figures he can nuke the planet instead.
 
I have to agree with them on that. Guy cannot follow Thragg to space, which Viltrumites destroy planets by going for their core or moving at High speeds across the surface. I just think Guy pummels Thragg with attacks Madara almost died to and felt threatened by. Im not convinced or moved by Thragg's ability to survive without half his body as he cannot regenerate that fast or even to a detrimental degree. His whole head, or torso could be gone depending on where he gets striked by Guy's attacks. Its obvious Guy is going to be broken down in the end, imo Thragg just doesn't survive the damage. Guy upscales from his value by putting holes into Madara, I simply dont see why Thragg wouldnt get worse treatment being 2x weaker, can become 5x slower (because Guy amps himself) and his own abilities like attacking through air itself. Hence my vote
When does thragg destroyed any planet?
Why we assume it
Guy is faster than him why cant he stop thragg?
 
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