saul goodman vs goku (breaking bad vs dragon ball super)

[Lukewoesal007]

And is there any proof that his ability affects beings with 3-A tier?

Why would we need any evidence of such a feat? Social Influencing is considered hax. It'll work regardless of the opponent's tier.

 

[Comiphorous]

And is there any proof that his ability affects beings with 3-A tier?

Now, dont quote me on this.

but im pretty sure goku has been spoken to by someone below 3-A

 

[AceOfSpaces3709]

What's stopping Goku from simply poking Saul? Spite

 

[ImmortalDread]

Why would we need any evidence of such a feat? Social Influencing is considered hax. It'll work regardless of the opponent's tier.

And why are you sure that Saul with starts with conflict and not rather Goku with one finger destroying the planet?

What's stopping Goku from simply poking Saul? Spite

I asked myself as well lol.

 

[BigSmoke4269]

This guy doesn't have a valid win condition.

In character, but will attempt to win the battle. Characters will not give up of their own accord. That means a character that is uninterested or sees no chance of winning won't simply leave and characters wouldn't simply become friends with each other. This doesn't prevent a character being made to give up, because the other character manipulates them via things like, for example, mind control, fear inducement, psychological tricks or superhuman charisma.

 

[BigSmoke4269]

And why are you sure that Saul with starts with conflict and not rather Goku with one finger destroying the planet?

goku would not do that in character lol

 

[BigSmoke4269]

What's stopping Goku from simply poking Saul? Spite

saul can use social influencing to convince him not to

 

[ImmortalDread]

goku would not do that in character lol

Why that? And what about Saul, does he do it in character as well + instant?

 

[BigSmoke4269]

Why that? And what about Saul, does he do it in character as well + instant?

saul is a silly prankster whose first move will pretty much always be negotiation

 

[BigSmoke4269]

i feel like you haven’t watched either series lol

 

[ImmortalDread]

i feel like you haven’t watched either series lol

I have watched DBS. But not that character series, hence why I am asking.

saul is a silly prankster whose first move will pretty much always be negotiation

And why do you think Goku won't predict his moves?

 

[BigSmoke4269]

I have watched DBS. But not that character series, hence why I am asking.

why do you think goku is going to willingly destroy the planet if you’ve watched dragon ball

And why do you think Goku won't predict his moves?

what vs debating does to a mf

 

[ImmortalDread]

Dang. I am incon as far now; I will wait till DBS knowledgeable members comment on it.

 

[BigSmoke4269]

ok

 

[BigSmoke4269]

counted

 

[ImmortalDread]

Think about it Saul has a gun

Goku does not

Saul wins

Dang, if you think a pistol can harm him
Alright, let's see how the match goes. Dang would be so disrespectful losing to 9-C

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

I don't that counts as Goku "giving up". He is just being pursuaded to not kill his opponent or to not fight which isn't allowed. His state of mind is still willing to fight and nothing beats Goku's desire to fight.

 

[BigSmoke4269]

I don't that counts as Goku "giving up".

yeah it does

He is just being pursuaded to not kill his opponent or to not fight which isn't allowed.

yes it is

 

[Lukewoesal007]

He is just being pursuaded to not kill his opponent or to not fight

This is, quite literally, the definition of "giving up" in this context.

 

[ImmortalDread]

yeah it does

yes it is

Why tho? You need to give arguments and reasoning. I am interested to know

 

[ImmortalDread]

This is, quite literally, the definition of "giving up" in this context.

Mhm! Understandable then. Did Saul ever do it, actually? Did he use the hax to the enemy and tell him not to attack him or kill him?

 

[BigSmoke4269]

yeah

many times

 

[Lukewoesal007]

Mhm! Understandable then. Did Saul ever do it, actually? Did he use the hax to the enemy and tell him not to attack him or kill him?

Absolutely, it's his job to persuade people. He also convinced a crazed meth-addict to not execute two people.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Absolutely, it's his job to persuade people. He also convinced a crazed meth-addict to not execute two people.

Thanks for clarification

yeah

many times

Oh, alright. Reasonable.

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

It mentions charisma as a win condition so I guess it's fine.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

First of all, Goku wouldn't be interested in fighting him in the first place.

 

[Armorchompy]

yeah can't goku just tank the social influencing

jokes aside convincing goku not to kill him would be incon, not a win

 

[ImmortalDread]

yeah can't goku just tank the social influencing

jokes aside convincing goku not to kill him would be incon, not a win

Hence, why I said, it is incon xD. Saul can't even harm him.

 

[AceOfSpaces3709]

Goku barely resorts to killing his opponents. Considering he can clearly sense Saul is not being a major threat to him and that he still has the mindset to fight, what's stopping him from simply doing something like this, this, or even this?

 

[Comiphorous]

this, this, or even this?

i often forget there was a time people tried to mug goku.

 

[BigSmoke4269]

jokes aside convincing goku not to kill him would be incon, not a win

if goku leaves the battlefield, isn’t that battlefield removal

 

[InfiniteDay]

This may be the single worst thread I have ever seen.

Saul somehow ******* wins fra

 

[Armorchompy]

if goku leaves the battlefield, isn’t that battlefield removal

Why wouldn't Saul leave too

 

[CuteAnimeNekoGirl99]

Why wouldn't Saul leave too

He’s a guy he needs time to call a taxi

 

[ImmortalDread]

He’s a guy he needs time to call a taxi

 

[Moritzva]

What the ****