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Sans vs Combined Human

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Draw, when KR hits the composite human, the kill count will register so high that the multiverse will be busted along with Sans.

A-hem. Sans should take it with KR and some of his hax (namely teleporting CH or the attacks all around him).
 
If we take the CH at pure face value, it's very possible for CH to not have any soul.

Even then, it wouldn't mean more soul durability.
 
Saikou The Lewd King said:
If we take the CH at pure face value, it's very possible for CH to not have any soul.
Even then, it wouldn't mean more soul durability.
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absorbing a crapton of souls leads to more soul dura
 
Uuuuh... If we went that far as to give the human souls from CH the same treatment human souls receive in UT, Sans would probaly be the one to get fodderized, as the other six human souls had nowhere near the level of determination Frisk had and yet they turned Flowey into God Flowey.

A CH with every single human soul that ever was would probably be, at the very least, a being on Asriel's lvl, likely much higher.
 
No it doesn't. By that logic CH would be 2-A because of that.

Again Flowey got stronger because Souls in Undertale are strong. We can't assume "normal" ones gives boosts like that.
 
But it's everyone's beloved Undertale : p

In all seriousness even then, wouldn't the amount of sins still stack up? After all Sans could still kill Frisk. Arguably at least.
 
Ok someone make a separate form of him with 2-a tier and put under their using undertales cocepts of souls jk
 
@I s u-c l o n e If sins and the kill count are not counted, then I can see CH taking it as Sans without KR on his side is well... Even weaker than monster kid.
 
Assuming CH takes a single hit...


...he has 107 000 000 000 souls of which some X souls would die per second, X being the number of murders and kills to ever have been comitted by humans. I think he can survive.


Also, CH has all determination of all humans. Does that include Frisk when in battle with Undertale beings? Because if so, he should be Tier 0 on this battle.
 
@Mand21 Composite Human is the combination of every real human who ever existed. Not Frisk.

Also I don't think you're sure what Tier 0 means. Please check up on the Tiering System. No one in Undertale or in this hypothetical battle comes remotely close to that level in the slightest.
 
I know, it was an hyperbole.


But still, would Determination mechanics work on CH? If not, he should... eh, I don't know.
 
This is every human that has ever existed combined. Do you know how many murderers, theives, rapists, and other really horrible people exist? A LOT! Sans's Bad Karma would absolutely destroy Combined Human.
 
With every human combind you have literally every kill ever made. from the most simple to the most brutal tourturous deaths. KR will hit like a truck and as strong as combined human is. We simply can not apply determenation onto random characters. or feats of like Chara or frisk because those 2 are a special case.

Combined human has no healing options. Determenation will not be a factor. can't be really. that would just be adding a stat it doens't have.

So in the end sans takes it.
 
You also have to account for the multi-cellcular organic lifeforms that were killed by human means (I mean there were monsters and animate plants in Undertale that counted as kills). That would average like hundreds, if not many thousands (I don't remember how many burgers and fruits I've eaten since I was born) in a lifetime. Even eliminating inanimate lifeforms, that stacks pretty damn high. If CH gains durability with each human it represents, then the collective kills scale pretty well already, if not more way more than genocide Frisk.
 
I would still think that since Combined human is only a combination of all the positives and not negatives then the number of kills shouldn't matter.
 
Ryukama said:
Combined Human would be the combined knowledge and skills of everyone. Not combined actions.
CH would know perfectly how to kill someone, and what it would be like to kill someone, but that wouldn't necessarily mean CH has ever killed someone.
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That's a good argument indeed. They (CH) could even have MEMORIES of each kill, and remember them in full detail, yet not have killed anybody. They are, indeed, a separate individual, after all. They don't have to have killed anybody. They might as well be immune to Bad Karma.
 
Yeah a fight with CH means that they have all the knowledge of the human race but iirc means they were only just placed into the battlefield without CH existing before the battle, since CH doesn't actually come from any written work, and has no history of doing anything at all, meaning that KR isn't going to do a lot of good.
 
This character lacks consistency, I suggest that he should not be considered a real character until more cannon info is added to his profile, because right now, he is a walking contradiction
 
@Memori

What's the contradiction with CH? Also, CH has no canon, being a Versus Battles Wiki original.

EDIT: Realized you didn't mention a name, so you might be talking about Sans. Still, you really do need to use names, you can't get less helpful than only using pronouns.
 
I was talking about CH, as there is little to no information about him, as Sans comes from a videogame and has backstory etc.

My complains are that CH needs to be more specified with information about his abilities, because only "being the humanity at his peak" is vague AF. Whoever came up with that character, or someone with permission should work on his profile, because right now he should not be considered a complete character.

I said he's a complete contradiction because I initially thought that he also had human's weaknesses, which I still think he should have. I mean, is there a single character not being one of those ultra gods who doesn't posses a single weakness? For example, humans die if exposed to some kinds of radiation, then CH is too, or he has all humanity's radiation tolerance and thus is super resistant?

PD: You could have guessed who I was talking about because i posted after your comment, thay only talked about CH, and I was complaining about little information about the character. Who would you think of: a video game character which has a lot of interaction with the player, or a complete hypothetical, non cannon character?
 
Composite human has beaten Undertale so many times he will know Sans' attack pattern so precisely it won't even be funny.
 
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