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Sans vs Bill (Closed)

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Yeah no, Weirdmageddon would passively **** Sans without the plot armor regardless of in-character Bill or not. 11-A Bill would have lost by virtue of him passively making people fall asleep, letting them see and interact with him, after which he'd get blasted because he is certain that no-one cans do anything to him in that form.

And no, Discord would not go for one-shot. His magic sense would make him laugh because Sans is weaker than literal babies as far as he cares.
 
All of these reasons would take a reasonable amount of time when the fight realistically ends in the first few seconds due to soul hacks or sans being one shot. for Bill to try and Weirdmaggedon would give sans plenty of time to soul attack, Bill eats the earth. Well he would need to grow that big which gives sans time and an even bigger target. So neither of those points work for Bill.

Also Ricsi. You are very much wrong. It's been went over several times including there that discord would open with a one shoter. And all of his attacks would be one shoters. Which he can activate just like Bill.
 
Is this what you are expecting:

"Bill laughs while Sans immediately does thought-based soul hax and destroys Bill extremely quickly and Sans' clairvoyance lets him know how strong Bill is but Bill snaps while his soul is being almost instantly destroyed and Sans is a tapestry so incon"
 
What i expected was just about what happened

Despite being basically the same fight as before, burn Bill suddenly stomps because it's Bill. But did it anyway cause someone brought it up and I thought why not. Since discord worked out: this one is basically the same fight.
 
No, that's not true at all. Bill passively breaks reality to the point that people casually go insane, things come to life, some are frozen in time, casualty becomes wonky, etc.

Discord does none of those things by virtue of having a body.
 
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mfw people say bill is wanked
 
I think he is.

No feats to prove it given the rift existed before Bill came and that was tbe primary reason Time Baby was afraid as well as his weirdness from bis dimension slowly seeping in and gradually going to destroy everything. Also no proof Bill has that durability since Time Baby warned him, too, while Bill just ignored the warning in his stubbornness. Yes, the rift closed when Bill was defeated, but that's becauae he was erased and so his actions were undone, such as entering the portal and having it intensify the reality-ripping process becauae of that. It's also likely it just closed becauae it was stabilized after Bill's effects on time and space were reverted. He has statements, but they're all "would" and "coulds" that speak of a gradual process and/or are vague like "taking control of the galaxy".

It's all really shaky IMO, and a lot of it is from interpretation rather than direct feats or truly definitive statements that aren't vague or interpretational
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
No, that's not true at all. Bill passively breaks reality to the point that people casually go insane, things come to life, some are frozen in time, casualty becomes wonky, etc.

Discord does none of those things by virtue of having a body.
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That isn't a passive thing he does. That's weirdmagedon which he still has to activate. I never said Weirdmagedon was already in play, so that means for that to happen. He needs to start it. So that isn't a valid reason. As that takes time to activate, and Bill doesn't really have much time. Certainly not enough. And the madness manipulation is wrong on it being passive. That's the bubbles of Madness. But Those are very easily avoidable should he even somehow activate it in time.
 
No. He activates weirdmageddon in his 11-A form. Because his physical form cannot function without weirdmageddon. His body was formed due to weirdmageddon, and all of his abilities rely on it... because him being in power means that laws of physics are not, as simple as that.

He can't have a body unless there is a rift to the nightmare realm, or is in a place that is just lawless.
 
Time freeze is out of character

And even if weirdmagedon is activated, still not right about attacks being passive. Nothing automatically attacks Sans in weirdmagedon. At most the bubbles floating around. But they are slow, easily avoidable, and still need to head in his path. Bill still needs to initiate an attack
 
Buttersamuri said:
Time freeze is out of character
And even if weirdmagedon is activated, still not right about attacks being passive. Nothing automatically attacks Sans in weirdmagedon. At most the bubbles floating around. But they are slow, easily avoidable, and still need to head in his path. Bill still needs to initiate an attack
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"Time Freeze is out of character"

>literally one of the first things Bill did

I have seen people argue that Bill's time stop is passive, but I digress since all we know is that his Time Stop has limitless duration
 
Literally one of the first things he did yet never did it ever again. And it didn't even effect the entire area. It only effects a small portion. It didn't even freeze mabel and the others. Only the animals. But no. That's not a valid argument. He literally never used it again
 
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

GAHAHAHAHAHAHA

No.

Just... just no.

Bill snaps. Sans dies.

Sans soul hax can't kill Bill fast enough before Bill does literally anything and wins.

"But you argued he could beat Rick"

Rick is physically 9-B. Sans would absolutely one-shot him. Bill is a Low 2-C. Nothing in Sans arsenal can kill Bill fast enough before Bill just kills him.

Not helping is that SBA means they start out of Sans range, because his range is ******* meters.
 
Did you read the OP? Like. Your comment seriously suggest it did at all. I didn't say SBA. Like at all anywhere in it. Read it.

For one. They are literally said to be 20 meters from each other.

Secondly. Sans attacks are just as fast as Bills attacks. They both can end with one movement

Thirdly. Sans is out at bloodlusted. If he traps Bill in a bone attack which is entirely possible, especially with bloodlusted, and Bill doesn't have any resistance. This means Sans can win.
 
Only Sans Soul Hax doesn't one-shot. Because you gave to have evidence that a certain verses soul manip can one-shot people without resistance.

And even then, both gesture at the same time. Sans gesture throws a projectile, Bill's just kills him. Leaving Bill to just fly away from said projectile. Or snap again and transmute the bones.

Plus, what does Sans strongest move start with? Him throwing you at the ground. Which Bill wouldn't be killed by.

Creating a bone trap requires more time than he'll have before Bill snaps.
 
Actually, retracting first argument. It doesn't really make sense now that I think about it.
 
Thinking about this more...

Yeah, probably not a stomp. Bill wins, but it's not a stomp.

Sans can win, his move is just slower.

I'm sorry for my first comment.
 
I mean, it's just a quick draw.

Both can win with their opening moves, Bill just wins first. Simply because Bill's win method has no travel time.
 
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