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Everything is possible in fiction. A skeleton also cannot talk by your logic but here we are with sans so thats some real weird logicDisagree with the CRT (you can't soul hax somebody without a soul)
It is already accepted as such. So this is not a pointThe imgur link used to justify Flowey not having a soul is just him saying that he's "empty inside", which is meaningless
I'm not arguing for or against it, I'm only pointing out that it's a poor justificationIt is already accepted as such. So this is not a point
Thats not the point. Sans deals 1 damage and him killing flowey who is leagues above him (9-B vs Tier 8) makes no sense so it is more likely he used haxI'm not arguing for or against it, I'm only pointing out that it's a poor justification
It's more logical to assume that the projectiles don't just attack the soul than that they can soul hax soulless beings, especially since we literally see Toriel hit Flowey at the beginning of the game
Also about this,The imgur link used to justify Flowey not having a soul is just him saying that he's "empty inside", which is meaningless
We'll need a vessel to wield the monster SOULs when the time comes.
After all, a monster cannot absorb the SOULs of other monsters.
Just as a human cannot absorb a human SOUL...
So then...
What about something that's neither human nor monster?
I've chosen a candidate.
I haven't told ASGORE yet, because I want to surprise him with it...
In the center of his garden, there's something special.
The first golden flower, that grew before all the others.
The flower from the outside world.
It appeared just before the queen left.
I wonder...
What happens when something without a SOUL gains the will to live?
That would contradict his Check stats thoI would more agree with Sans being possibly 8-C than him having Resistance Negation. Soulhaxing soulless beings gives nothing
I just said it as an example. I think this is just inconsistency caused by combining two seperate things, flowey soulles claim and flowey dies to Sans implication to hype up Sans. We don't know how the actual interaction between the two went and there is nothing else to go by to give Sans can hax soulless stuff thingThat would contradict his Check stats tho
Stop clogging the thread.I would more agree with Sans being possibly 8-C than him having Resistance Negation. Soulhaxing soulless beings gives nothing. It only means his soulhax works in a way where it would affect soulless people as well. He still wouldn't bypass people with actual soulhax resistance.
This whole thing is based on implications and combination of two seperate things, I see it more of an inconsistency
9-B vs 8-C.
Stop making me repeat myself
Are you aware that Flowey can simply just go straight to Asgore since he can walk underground?Flowey also says he could never get past Asgore, implying he fought Asgore but could never beat him, he needs to get past Sans in order to fight Asgore as Sans will block Flowey.
Literally... nothing..?So what should I add to the profile?
I disagree with the CRT for the reasons above.
Undertale attacks harm the soul and the body. Nothing implies that Sans harmed his "soul" he just beat up Flowey through his physical attacks and his other haxes.
Also, none of this means Flowey NEVER killed Sans, it means that Sans killed him more times than other monsters.
There is not enough evidence to prove Sans can soul hax soulless beings, he never fought in camera with soulless beings and even then he has multiple ways to harm soulless being that don't require soul hax.
Tell me how Sans was able to defeat somehow leagues above him in terms of AP and durability when he should even be able to hurt him? I still couldnt get a single answer to thatRepeating the fact that Sans needs an upgrade isn’t an argument. There are still other problems with what you’re proposing.
Dunno man, Frisk got soul resistance and takes soul damage as physical damage and still get their ass screwed even by 9-B sansTell me how Sans was able to defeat somehow leagues above him in terms of AP and durability when he should even be able to hurt him? I still couldnt get a single answer to that
Isn't that with LS?Dunno man, Frisk got soul resistance and takes soul damage as physical damage and still get their ass screwed even by 9-B sans
Flowey can't really land a finger on sans cause of instinctive action and teleporting. Sans ironically having higher stamina cause it's adverage vs unknown so flowey's durability is kinda useless if his stamina isn't even comparable to adverage with no real shown invulnerability from taking 9-B damage.Tell me how Sans was able to defeat somehow leagues above him in terms of AP and durability when he should even be able to hurt him? I still couldnt get a single answer to that
Its a 8-C. A damn 8-C. How is Sans supposed to beat him without taking a single hit while not using his dura neg??Flowey can't really land a finger on sans cause of instinctive action and teleporting. Sans ironically having higher stamina cause it's adverage vs unknown so flowey's durability is kinda useless if his stamina isn't even comparable to adverage with no real shown invulnerability from taking 9-B damage.
DURA NEG DOESN'T MATTER HERE BROIts a 8-C. A damn 8-C. How is Sans supposed to beat him without taking a single hit while not using his dura neg??
What in the ****...? Dude I literally just dont understand your logic. Thats literally what dura neg isDURA NEG DOESN'T MATTER HERE BRO
It already was accepted that Frisk takes soul damage as physical one, and they're taking like, a lot of damage from Sans, even if they got more than 100 DEF
Tell me how Sans was able to defeat somehow leagues above him in terms of AP and durability when he should even be able to hurt him? I still couldnt get a single answer to that
Yes thats how his durability negation works + KARMA poisonBesides Karma, doesn't Sans have that damage frames thing?
From what I remember he really does 1 damage to Frisk with the Gaster Blasters but the damage frame is so small that several 1 damage is dealt in a short time of hit (besides Karma)
I could be wrong, but I remember seeing this somewhere.
Hell no! That breaks the entire point of his statsSo you don’t think Sans should upscale?
Turn off your powerscaling brain for a moment. The lore of the game does not imply that Flowey is immune to all of Sans' attacks with sheer durability.Tell me how Sans was able to defeat somehow leagues above him in terms of AP and durability when he should even be able to hurt him? I still couldnt get a single answer to that