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Samurai 8 General Discussion Thread 3: Kishimoto hates moons

so samurai according to this translation get multiplied by 10 when boosted by a princess. So base Hachi is way stronger than we think.
 
could be, but I bet the multiplier would be a huge low ball, cause princess boosted Ata would do some crazy shit.
 
they are usually low balls, since authors dont know the difference between say planet level and star level, they might say someone gets a 10 times boost and give them star level from their planet level base. Yet it is actually a 300000 times difference.
 
10× multiplier seems very low when you consider the fact that Hachimaru who was just city block went up to being able to perform a large planet level feat which by Ap is octillions to around nonillions of times of multiplier increase? Statements and feats completely contradict this.
 
Rocker1189 said:
well finally decided to calc this in the way I wanted to for a while: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Rocker1189/moon_rekt

It wont scale to anyone yet but it is possible it would scale to the guy that Amped Hachi is fighting. Which means it likely scales to people like real body Ata and prime Daruma.
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After this chapter would you still say that the swan samurai who faced off against Amped hachi would also be scaled to large planet level cause I don't think so
 
Battler356ushiromiya said:
10× multiplier seems very low when you consider the fact that Hachimaru who was just city block went up to being able to perform a large planet level feat which by Ap is octillions to around nonillions of times of multiplier increase? Statements and feats completely contradict this.
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Thing is tho, that can be chalked up to the fact Ann's prayer seems to bring out Hachimaru's hidden latent power. Even the swan Samurai commented how he was strong only for a moment with his shining bright Soul.
 
I think the Prayer should count as "At Least" a 10x boost as the boosts have thus far been displayed as much higher. Backwards scaling shouldn't be done from it imo.
 
either way people are saying that Hachimaru is only city block level with 0 evidence, he has shown no feats ever since he cut the holder's arm. He is unquantifiably stronger right now in his base.

I honestly wont be surprised if he is 5-C.
 
Him being 5C in base makes no sense since it's barely just 2 days when he became a samurai and I don't think he became that much stronger in such a short span of time. Tho jaminibox's translation say that a princess prayer makes a samurai dozens of times stronger which can be anything from 24-96× multiplier.
 
I really like the hachimaru vs the other samurai with trident sword,they way they thought about each other's tactics reminded me of RDJ'S Sherlock Holmes,it was absolutely awesome
 
Battler356ushiromiya said:
Him being 5C in base makes no sense since it's barely just 2 days when he became a samurai and I don't think he became that much stronger in such a short span of time.
Tho jaminibox's translation say that a princess prayer makes a samurai dozens of times stronger which can be anything from 24-96× multiplier.
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The number of days really does not matter, he is a key which automatically makes him stronger than most samurai and went from not being able to scratch a giant holder to completely cutting a massive piece of it in less than a day.
 
The number of days really does not matter, he is a key which automatically makes him stronger than most samurai and went from not being able to scratch a giant holder to completely cutting a massive piece of it in less than a day.

And thats with his soul sword which he didn't knew of properly using and thenge trains and becomes able to cut a hand .something still seems off
 
He uses his soul sword most of the time anyway. Only high tier samurai like Daruma uses his regular sword against other samurai
 
Battler356ushiromiya said:
And thats with his soul sword which he didn't knew of properly using and thenge trains and becomes able to cut a hand .something still seems off
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Mate his soul sword is much much stronger than a normal sword. So you basically proved my point, he could literally only cut a small gash into the holder with his soul sword earlier.
 
Mate his soul sword is much much stronger than a normal sword. So you basically proved my point, he could literally only cut a small gash into the holder with his soul sword earlier.

Every samirai's soup sword is much more stronger than normal sword but that doesn't makes them all 5C.
 
Battler356ushiromiya said:
Every samirai's soup sword is much more stronger than normal sword but that doesn't makes them all 5C.
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I did not say it made them 5-C I said that we do not know how strong he is but him climbing from whatever level he was (every feat he did was casual) to 5-C is not unfounded. That is my point.

What is unfounded, is believeing that his casual feats are his max level.
 
Okay so how much powerful must be prime daruma with his princess and holder using his star breaker attack with his soul sword where would that place his tier any speculations???
 
We can't just assume that daruma would be above that. He could just cap at large planet lvl in his prime. That's why I say it's too early to assume he's higher than where he's at rn
 
Official makes way more sense. It says a Princess can make a Samurai dozens of times stronger. So, the Amp basically depends on the Princess and her bond with the Samurai.
 
I really want Master daruma to fight the sponsor samurai with his huge turtle holder and take a perfect susanoo type form as garuda mujin used against incarnate ata.
 
So with this new chapter we saw that Ryuu fighting on par and even overwhelming "Trinity" Hachimaru who easily Oliberated the muun so is Ryuu in 5C or moon level now.
 
Favourite part of the chapter was the salty dude Hachi beat in the game- objectively the most realistic thing in the whole series lol
 
Battler356ushiromiya said:
So with this new chapter we saw that Ryuu fighting on par and even overwhelming "Trinity" Hachimaru who easily Oliberated the muun so is Ryuu in 5C or moon level now.
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Yes no other way around it. Daruma even considers him overwhelming to Hachi
 
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