Saint Seiya Verse-Wide Revision pt. 1

[TheUnshakableOne]

Okay Classic Gold Saints are done. im going to take a break now

 

[Veronica]

Bump

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Bump

This is already being applied, all that remains is to close the crt, there is no need to bump it.

 

[Veronica]

This is already being applied, all that remains is to close the crt, there is no need to bump it.

How accurate is this?


Hades > God Cloths = literally infinitely stronger ==> what Shaka and Shijima generated. There is not a single feat in DB that speedwise matches Shura's in GA, much less his current ones. Or Thanatos attacking across billions and billions of light years, even all the way through the Underworld, directly into the world of the living(he is fodder to Hades)

Pontos' mere existence expands the universe up to infinite sized, and Hades should be superior till further notice. Till someone post speed feats, as far as I am concerned, Hades statues and sends his soul into the void with his sword.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

But what are you talking about? What does this have to do with Dragon Ball '-'

 

[Huesito88]

How accurate is this?


Hades > God Cloths = literally infinitely stronger ==> what Shaka and Shijima generated. There is not a single feat in DB that speedwise matches Shura's in GA, much less his current ones. Or Thanatos attacking across billions and billions of light years, even all the way through the Underworld, directly into the world of the living(he is fodder to Hades)

Pontos' mere existence expands the universe up to infinite sized, and Hades should be superior till further notice. Till someone post speed feats, as far as I am concerned, Hades statues and sends his soul into the void with his sword.

Take it to the discussion board

 

[Veronica]

But what are you talking about? What does this have to do with Dragon Ball '-'

I got this from a SS fan but don't know if it is accurate

 

[Veronica]

Bb

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

I need these 2 profiles unlocked so that i can finish the edits accepted in this CRT

Lyra Orphée

Lyra Orphée (琴座（ライラ）のオルフェ, Raira no Orufe) is a character from the Saint Seiya Franchise. It is stated that his Cosmo is above that of the Gold Saints. In the Official Encyclopedia, Orphée is cited as a mighty warrior whose power may also equal all of Hades' 3 Judges. Tier: At least 3-C, Low 2-C...

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Hades (Saint Seiya)

Hades, Underworld Emperor (冥王ハーデス; meiö hadesu; Κόλαση Αυτοκράτορας Άδης) is the Greek God of the Dead and Lord of the Underworld, as seen in the Saint Seiya Franchise. Alongside his brothers Zeus and Poseidon, he is one of the Three Sacred Emperors. They stand above the other Olympians and are...

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thank you!

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I unlocked them, let me know when you're done.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

I unlocked them, let me know when you're done.

Thank you

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

I unlocked them, let me know when you're done.

They can be re-locked again if needed

this CRT can be closed now all edits related to this CRT hve been done

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

They can be re-locked again if needed

this CRT can be closed now all edits related to this CRT hve been done

Relocked, thank you very much for helping out. Will lock this thread then.

 

[Antvasima]

The revision in question was very badly applied, so I had to revert all of the edits.

Are any others here, who know how to edit properly according to our standard conventions, willing to help out with applying the changes?

 

[Hasty12345]

Hey Ant, sorry for being absent from this thread, I have been helping behind the scenes to get these revisions applied.

Given some recent events, I’ll be taking over editing the profiles.

This is will be my first attempt at applying such a large revision so I do ask for some patience.

It’s my understanding that the previous application of this revision wasn’t great.

Could I get a list of things that need to happen for this to be applied and maybe a content mod to apply them to 1 profile that I’ll use as a model for the rest of them?

I’m unsure if the user blog has been made into a wiki page yet, is there a process I need to undergo to make that happen?

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you very much for helping out.

I do not remember well anymore, but think that the formatting in the edits was bad, and possibly used incoherent statistics, that the edits linked to a personal blog post instead or a regular verse-specific powers and abilities page, and that almost the entireties of the powers and abilities sections were removed.

 

[Hasty12345]

the statistics shouldn't have been changed at all.

I'm not sure how to make a proper wiki page, is it just like making a character page? If so, I can just take the code from the blog and put it into a Wiki page as though I'm going to make a character profile.

most if not all Saint's abilities aside from unique techniques are in the blog, it makes sense the abilities were removed, the blog contains just about all of them.

I recognize this doesn't look great, but aside from the hax granted by cosmo, Saints don't have too many abilities

Leo Aiolia

Leo Aiolia is the Gold Saint of the Leo Constellation from the 20th Century, and the younger brother of Sagittarius Aiolos. He is a secondary character of great importance during the original manga, and the primary protagonist of the prequel Saint Seiya: Episode G. Tier: 4-C, at most 4-A Name...

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this is what the profiles should look like outside of formatting issues.

 

[Antvasima]

the statistics shouldn't have been changed at all.

Okay. I likely misremember that part then.

I'm not sure how to make a proper wiki page, is it just like making a character page? If so, I can just take the code from the blog and put it into a Wiki page as though I'm going to make a character profile.

See here for examples please:

Verse-specific Powers and Abilities

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most if not all Saint's abilities aside from unique techniques are in the blog, it makes sense the abilities were removed, the blog contains just about all of them.

I recognize this doesn't look great, but aside from the hax granted by cosmo, Saints don't have too many abilities

Okay. Understood. I suppose that part is fine then.

Leo Aiolia

Leo Aiolia is the Gold Saint of the Leo Constellation from the 20th Century, and the younger brother of Sagittarius Aiolos. He is a secondary character of great importance during the original manga, and the primary protagonist of the prequel Saint Seiya: Episode G. Tier: 4-C, at most 4-A Name...

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this is what the profiles should look like outside of formatting issues.

Okay. That is probably fine.

 

[Hasty12345]

Ok when I get time I will make the proper verse-specific power page.

Then I'll edit 1 profile and I will check back here and when I get the okay from a content mod that the page is up to the standard I will apply the CRT.

I won't be able to do it until early next week, but I will get it done.

Thanks for your help Ant, I'll get this sorted as soon as I'm able to.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. That seems good to me. Thank you for helping out.

It may be better to ask administrators for help with inspecting your test page though.

 

[Hasty12345]

alright, will do.

 

[Veronica]

Bump

 

[Hasty12345]

does anyone know if we use American or British standard English for pages or is either one fine?

 

[Hasty12345]

I've created the wiki page:

Cosmo (Saint Seiya)

"Cosmo (小宇宙 （コスモ）)" is the fundamental energy used by the warriors of the Saint Seiya franchise for combat. The Cosmo power system is loosely based on the Buddhist idea of "senses", with each sense allowing characters to perform increasingly incredible feats and abilities. All living beings...

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If someone could make sure it's of the standard that would be amazing

Edit: I'm not too good with images if they need to be removed then that's fine

Edit 2: I did change some poor wording and grammar issues as well as improved the formatting where I could compared to the original sandbox, however, none of the abilities and such were changed from what was accepted.

 

[StekFence]

I think every category should have its resistances expanded to include their passives. It should be pretty obvious considering they fight each other all the time as the basic point of the series. And certain other hax, like 9th sense users resisting deconstruction for example.

 

[Hasty12345]

I think every category should have its resistances expanded to include their passives. It should be pretty obvious considering they fight each other all the time as the basic point of the series. And certain other hax, like 9th sense users resisting deconstruction for example.

I'm focusing solely on what was accepted in this CRT.

Feel free to make one after this thread has concluded to add that.

 

[StekFence]

Sure

 

[Hasty12345]

Sure

this thread has been accepted for a month, I don't want it to come to a halt trying to add abilities. I want to get it sorted and move on.

 

[Hasty12345]

Sorry for the spam everyone, upon going over some profiles, I've noticed that for the keys and P&A section to make sense, there's going to have to be some key revisions which will likely need their own CRT.

Here is an example of how Seiya's page will look when implementing this CRT (EDIT: I've also included an example of a Gold Saint (Leo Aiolia) in the sandbox)

Saint Seiya: Cosmo Abilities Page

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(don't mind the name of the page, it's just an old blog of mine)

For comparison here is Seiya's current profile:

Pegasus Seiya

Seiya (星矢, Seiya), also known as Pegasus Seiya (天馬星座の星矢, Pegasasu no Seiya), is the titular Main Character of the Saint Seiya Manga and Anime series written and illustrated by Masami Kurumada. He is one of the Goddess Athena's eighty-eight mythical warriors known as Saints, who have served their...

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As you can see, the keys on his current profile aren't conducive to this revision at all, so in the sandbox I've changed them in the sandbox.

This will likely need to be done to every profile, as such, I want to do that in its own CRT.

That being said, the only thing left for this CRT is the verse power page (below) to be given the "OK" as being up to site standards. As I said above, I did make some minor format changes compared to the initial sandbox in the CRT, however, none of the abilities have been changed at all.

If a mod with enough knowledge wants to have a quick glimpse at the Cosmo page that would be great, and once this is done, this thread can be closed and I'll make a CRT proposing new keys with example profiles etc for its application to profiles.

Cosmo (Saint Seiya)

"Cosmo (小宇宙 （コスモ）)" is the fundamental energy used by the warriors of the Saint Seiya franchise for combat. The Cosmo power system is loosely based on the Buddhist idea of "senses", with each sense allowing characters to perform increasingly incredible feats and abilities. All living beings...

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[Kaiou1991]

I'd be happy to help apply this CRT when it comes to it.

 

[Antvasima]

I've created the wiki page:

Cosmo (Saint Seiya)

"Cosmo (小宇宙 （コスモ）)" is the fundamental energy used by the warriors of the Saint Seiya franchise for combat. The Cosmo power system is loosely based on the Buddhist idea of "senses", with each sense allowing characters to perform increasingly incredible feats and abilities. All living beings...

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If someone could make sure it's of the standard that would be amazing

Edit: I'm not too good with images if they need to be removed then that's fine

Edit 2: I did change some poor wording and grammar issues as well as improved the formatting where I could compared to the original sandbox, however, none of the abilities and such were changed from what was accepted.

It seems good to me.

I'd be happy to help apply this CRT when it comes to it.

Well, the edits have to be properly formatted and structured in our accepted standard manners.

Standard Format for Character Profiles

When there are multiple versions of a character that are distinct enough to be split into several profiles, whether it is due to the length and complexity of the page or versions from different mediums, then the multiple pages that are created as a result of this have to be linked by a tabber...

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Common Editing Mistakes

This is a page to help our members avoid common mistakes when writing source code, so other members do not need to spend considerable time cleaning up the mess. It is highly recommended that new users familiarize themselves with the contents of this page before making any edits on the wiki...

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[Hasty12345]

It seems good to me.

Well, the edits have to be properly formatted and structured in our accepted standard manners.

Standard Format for Character Profiles

When there are multiple versions of a character that are distinct enough to be split into several profiles, whether it is due to the length and complexity of the page or versions from different mediums, then the multiple pages that are created as a result of this have to be linked by a tabber...

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Common Editing Mistakes

This is a page to help our members avoid common mistakes when writing source code, so other members do not need to spend considerable time cleaning up the mess. It is highly recommended that new users familiarize themselves with the contents of this page before making any edits on the wiki...

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Amazing.

I have since ran into issues with how I was going to apply the CRT, but I've made a new CRT outlining some key changes and a proposal to label the Saint Seiya pages as "outdated" until I can apply this CRT and my next planned CRT which will result in the pages being completely up to date with the current canon here:

Saint Seiya Verse-Wide Revision pt. 1.5: Key Restructuring

Continuation of this CRT https://vsbattles.com/threads/saint-seiya-verse-wide-revision-pt-1.165276/ Please read through the above CRT (only the OP) to see what was accepted. I'm sure by now everyone is sick of Saint Seiya CRTs by now and to be honest, so am I. However, this CRT is imperative...

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We're getting to the home stretch now.

This CRT can be closed.

Thank you everyone for participating.

 

[Antvasima]

No problem, but isn't it better to properly apply the accepted revisions here before we close this thread, so nothing goes wrong again, and it turns easier for members to collaborate in properly applying the changes?

 

[Hasty12345]

No problem, but isn't it better to properly apply the accepted revisions here before we close this thread, so nothing goes wrong again, and it turns easier for members to collaborate in properly applying the changes?

I can apply these revisions now, however, the P&A sections won't line up too well with the keys and changing the keys will mess up the statistic sections of the profiles.


If you're ok with that, I can and will apply this revision, but in the coming weeks I'll be dropping my AP/statistics revisions which will line up better with my proposed keys for better flowing profiles.

My current mindset is "If I'm going to leave the profile more confusing than I found it, I should wait."

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, I agree about that it is better to wait until your preparations have been completed.

 

[Hasty12345]

Thank you for your input Ant, I appreciate it.

With that, I think this CRT can be closed.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. No problem.