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I have come across more proof of Infinite, and Immeasurable speed ratings for the Saint Seiya verse.
Before we get started i'd like to address everyone of these 2 links.
1.) The page of Speed Tiering.
2.) the Timeless void page.
Click the spoiler bar button down below here. Assuming it will work. I may have to redo this several times until it does.I FOUND A LOT OF PROOF
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Click me for proof
(Virgo Shaka is trapped in a world without time, and space. He is with ikki, but ikki cannot escape alone. Shaka contacts Mu in order to get help to get Ikki out of there. (infinite Speed)
https://imgur.com/BrR9n9F
https://imgur.com/tckJuHf
https://imgur.com/qa8HUNM
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In Episode G Assassins. Athena traverses Time, History, and even worlds. All this just to answer shuras call. (immeasurable speed.)
https://imgur.com/mqFjwXy
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Here in Episode G Athena does this again. This time She comes from the future to the past to help Leo Aiolia. (immeasurable speed.)
https://imgur.com/mDt0zck
_______________________________________________
This is the "Super Dimensional Space" In which Hades created, and Built. Time and Space is in constant flux, and is distorted. Seiya, and Co had to move through this to reach Elysium. Of course Traveling through this would be impossible with Normal Speed if the Time Frame, and Distance kept changing on them. Seiya, and Hyoga had to undergo an evolution within their cloths to traverse this. Which a panel later we see them moving towards a light which led the way to Elysium. They still had to move towards the light within the "Super Dimensional Space." This should be Immeasurable speed for God Cloths. Also, Hades and Athena did traverse this realm themselves as well, and it is a place only "Gods" can enter. (God cloths, Hades, and Athena. Immeasurable speed.)
https://imgur.com/fUj6ktO
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These next several scans are essential for the "Infinite Speed rating" feats that come after.
Aries Kiki is explaining to us here that the power of Gold Saints does not come from their Cloths, but through the power of their mastery over their Cosmo.
https://imgur.com/I3vElDg
https://imgur.com/udOz2Bc
https://imgur.com/Aw6cZR8
Libra Genbu reaffirms this a few episodes later.
https://imgur.com/5NIPwSO
https://imgur.com/c0zgbB1
"Without a Cosmo to master it even a Gold cloth is scrap."
https://imgur.com/OVYArNA
"Is that victory is decided by the Cosmo"
https://imgur.com/Gt4y983
The next scene. The person Genbu is fighting he STOPS TIME
https://imgur.com/1iYWCYc
Genbu was unaffected by it! He was still able to keep fighting, and moving in stopped time! He also explains here he can still feel the Cosmo of everyone. (infinite speed.)
https://imgur.com/2Uc5U3B
"Its small, but...."
https://imgur.com/A6kOka
"everyone is still conscious."
https://imgur.com/4tJoyTP
"They can't move, but they are still conscious."
https://imgur.com/jcmM28Y
This could result in that a very experienced Saint one that has MASTERY OVER THEIR COSMO. Can move in stopped time. This would result in infinite speed rating. ___________________________________________________
Pheonix Ikki was moving in stopped time even after all time in the universe has been stopped. (Infinite speed)
https://imgur.com/Hi530Oi
https://imgur.com/SXUKDoo
True Omega, Super Omega Pegasus Divine Cloth, Kouga, was capable of moving and fighting Saturn in Stopped time. (infinite speed)
https://imgur.com/nIGjBzx
___________________________________________________
The 6th prison of the Underworld is located beyond spacetime. (For anyone that was moving in it. Infinite speed.)
https://imgur.com/K4YcTZV
__________________________________________________
Pontos literally had to walk through the 4th dimension of time to reach the Sealed Titans in the underworld to unseal them. This means that Tarturs is a timeless void that Hades created. (Hades, Pontos, and later the Titans that were existing in it and moving after being unsealed. Infinite speed.)
https://imgur.com/r2gT3bQ __________________________________________________________________________
Tokisada is shown to walk with time stopped.(Infinite speed.)
https://imgur.com/7tZakGq
https://imgur.com/xWs4ZR2
https://imgur.com/DKiZfSF
https://imgur.com/76OLgVO
_________________________________________________
Saturn is the being who masterd all of space-time that is in complete control, and resides at the "end of time." Which is a place where past, present, and future connect. A Space beyond time. That also allows anyone to go anywhere. This is straight up Immeasurable speed. (immeasurable speed.)
https://imgur.com/jV3vmE8
https://imgur.com/qHsjvvE
https://imgur.com/CB3M6cP
https://imgur.com/zS5eUpO
https://imgur.com/q2otqcQ
https://imgur.com/mqS2Aj4
https://imgur.com/ZaUoJw6
https://imgur.com/nIS2OzQ
These next 2 scans are to show it was Saturn.
https://imgur.com/d2dbspI
https://imgur.com/BXyps8u
______________________________________________________
Abzu the God of Darkness Overseer of all creation, and Destruction. Should have nigh-omnipresence. As he is darkness, and he has shown to become complete formless energy that resembles darkness. As in he has no real form, or an every changing form. He becomes one with his darkness so to speak? I don't know how to describe it honestly..... But his darkness was covering everything. (nigh Omnipresence.)
https://imgur.com/FHEWna5
https://imgur.com/zgsIFuT
https://imgur.com/BVTHlBM
https://imgur.com/XMfjKLB
https://imgur.com/QcwXRR1
https://imgur.com/HpcpR7T
https://imgur.com/F9TbFTU
https://imgur.com/esYdYZs
__________________________________________________________
oh i forgot this part, but "Super Omega Pegasus Divine Cloth" Kouga is equal to Saturn. So... Immeasurable speed too..? (Immeasurable speed.)
https://imgur.com/3JGyaxp
https://imgur.com/qOC75Lt
https://imgur.com/93yPHhF
___________________________________________________________________
The Pallasites are consistently shown to Stop Time.
https://imgur.com/bePhfmW
https://imgur.com/Nyyd417
using that one method above.
This screenshot may not show it very well, but Shun did manage to survive it and was seen moving in it, and fighting in it even after being hit by the intial blast of the attack. (Infinite speed.)
https://imgur.com/uW1dl6n
https://imgur.com/CCUxHUJ
The Gold Saint Harbinger was unaffected by it. (More infinite speed?)
https://imgur.com/5Fd5qb4
https://imgur.com/UHtTHDS
https://imgur.com/F4Xux1F more proof that pallsites are consistently shown to stop time.
__________________________________________________________
Everything in the franchise is canon. if someone says other wise. I will bring other scans showing that even the right hand column is canon material. Episode G and Episode G Assassins are over there, and even Kurumada has several interview statements that make it canon, and its also officialy recongized by serval Saint Seiya Officially recongized websites to be canon as they read as "Art is done by Okada, and Story by Kurumada."
https://imgur.com/fivVS16
____________________________________________________________________
Location: Unkown Time: Unkown Area: Unkown https://imgur.com/KllAvrW
They are in an area where the entire Multiverse, and the entire history of the multiverse connects. https://imgur.com/CPD8NiD
Take note of the girl boxed in blue here. https://imgur.com/xfSVE2u
Before that scene this is a statement she made. "I have crossed time, universes, and dimensions. All this just to find you." https://imgur.com/iYhof43
Immeasurable speed rating.
__________________________________________________________________
Eris, Ares (Saga), and Athena fighting in a transdimensional temple. (Infinite speed)
https://imgur.com/CMAiLYW
Other saints, and minions of Ares/Eris are capable of moving in this Extra Dimensional space. (infinite speed)
https://imgur.com/RRP7FER
__________________________________________________________________
The Original translations for the "Super Dimensional Space." This is the first edition english translations before Viz redid it. Which the Super Dimensional space not only Distorts time, and space, but it has the potential to send you to "another dimension." (aka another universe.) [Immeasurable speed]
https://imgur.com/vy1k20
https://imgur.com/OO0xlCX
They had to awaken an evolution in their cloths as i said before to traverse the Super Dimensional Space.
https://imgur.com/RaNtpGm
https://imgur.com/T82pHOU
https://imgur.com/9OtreiV
_______________________________________________________________
Seiya was sent to the 6th prison which by the official website is outside of spacetime. (Infinite speed)
https://imgur.com/bClpddW
https://imgur.com/C9vPTjh
Andromeda Shun with his cloths Chains were capable of brining him back. They were moving in a timeless void. (Infinite attack speed maybe?)
https://imgur.com/HvwN9rd
Seiya, and shun were at the 8th prison. (Infinite speed)
https://imgur.com/G3dvLqu
Which is the focal point of hell. (infinite speed)
https://imgur.com/uj6uevi
Ikki was teleportated from the 5th prison to the 8th prison. (Infinite speed.)
https://imgur.com/QnzvPjp
Virgo shaka, and Athena appear before Hades in the 8th prison. Shaka also states that Athena, and Him were in the Super Dimensional Space, and they got lost several times until they felt Hades cosmo. (Infinite Speed because all prisons past the 6th are beyond spacetime, and immeasurable for being in the Super Dimensional Space.)
https://imgur.com/scUKF2H
This is a map of the underworld's prisons.
https://imgur.com/1ovp1g3
)
In my personal opinion. I do think its all very clear cut, simple, and straight to the point infinite, and immeasurable speed ratings. These is a list of characters this could scale too... but we can discuss that after this is accepted maybe...?
The title may be subject to change...
Before we get started i'd like to address everyone of these 2 links.
1.) The page of Speed Tiering.
2.) the Timeless void page.
Click the spoiler bar button down below here. Assuming it will work. I may have to redo this several times until it does.I FOUND A LOT OF PROOF
ƒæç
Click me for proof
(Virgo Shaka is trapped in a world without time, and space. He is with ikki, but ikki cannot escape alone. Shaka contacts Mu in order to get help to get Ikki out of there. (infinite Speed)
https://imgur.com/BrR9n9F
https://imgur.com/tckJuHf
https://imgur.com/qa8HUNM
_______________________________________________
In Episode G Assassins. Athena traverses Time, History, and even worlds. All this just to answer shuras call. (immeasurable speed.)
https://imgur.com/mqFjwXy
_______________________________________________
Here in Episode G Athena does this again. This time She comes from the future to the past to help Leo Aiolia. (immeasurable speed.)
https://imgur.com/mDt0zck
_______________________________________________
This is the "Super Dimensional Space" In which Hades created, and Built. Time and Space is in constant flux, and is distorted. Seiya, and Co had to move through this to reach Elysium. Of course Traveling through this would be impossible with Normal Speed if the Time Frame, and Distance kept changing on them. Seiya, and Hyoga had to undergo an evolution within their cloths to traverse this. Which a panel later we see them moving towards a light which led the way to Elysium. They still had to move towards the light within the "Super Dimensional Space." This should be Immeasurable speed for God Cloths. Also, Hades and Athena did traverse this realm themselves as well, and it is a place only "Gods" can enter. (God cloths, Hades, and Athena. Immeasurable speed.)
https://imgur.com/fUj6ktO
_____________________________________________
These next several scans are essential for the "Infinite Speed rating" feats that come after.
Aries Kiki is explaining to us here that the power of Gold Saints does not come from their Cloths, but through the power of their mastery over their Cosmo.
https://imgur.com/I3vElDg
https://imgur.com/udOz2Bc
https://imgur.com/Aw6cZR8
Libra Genbu reaffirms this a few episodes later.
https://imgur.com/5NIPwSO
https://imgur.com/c0zgbB1
"Without a Cosmo to master it even a Gold cloth is scrap."
https://imgur.com/OVYArNA
"Is that victory is decided by the Cosmo"
https://imgur.com/Gt4y983
The next scene. The person Genbu is fighting he STOPS TIME
https://imgur.com/1iYWCYc
Genbu was unaffected by it! He was still able to keep fighting, and moving in stopped time! He also explains here he can still feel the Cosmo of everyone. (infinite speed.)
https://imgur.com/2Uc5U3B
"Its small, but...."
https://imgur.com/A6kOka
"everyone is still conscious."
https://imgur.com/4tJoyTP
"They can't move, but they are still conscious."
https://imgur.com/jcmM28Y
This could result in that a very experienced Saint one that has MASTERY OVER THEIR COSMO. Can move in stopped time. This would result in infinite speed rating. ___________________________________________________
Pheonix Ikki was moving in stopped time even after all time in the universe has been stopped. (Infinite speed)
https://imgur.com/Hi530Oi
https://imgur.com/SXUKDoo
True Omega, Super Omega Pegasus Divine Cloth, Kouga, was capable of moving and fighting Saturn in Stopped time. (infinite speed)
https://imgur.com/nIGjBzx
___________________________________________________
The 6th prison of the Underworld is located beyond spacetime. (For anyone that was moving in it. Infinite speed.)
https://imgur.com/K4YcTZV
__________________________________________________
Pontos literally had to walk through the 4th dimension of time to reach the Sealed Titans in the underworld to unseal them. This means that Tarturs is a timeless void that Hades created. (Hades, Pontos, and later the Titans that were existing in it and moving after being unsealed. Infinite speed.)
https://imgur.com/r2gT3bQ __________________________________________________________________________
Tokisada is shown to walk with time stopped.(Infinite speed.)
https://imgur.com/7tZakGq
https://imgur.com/xWs4ZR2
https://imgur.com/DKiZfSF
https://imgur.com/76OLgVO
_________________________________________________
Saturn is the being who masterd all of space-time that is in complete control, and resides at the "end of time." Which is a place where past, present, and future connect. A Space beyond time. That also allows anyone to go anywhere. This is straight up Immeasurable speed. (immeasurable speed.)
https://imgur.com/jV3vmE8
https://imgur.com/qHsjvvE
https://imgur.com/CB3M6cP
https://imgur.com/zS5eUpO
https://imgur.com/q2otqcQ
https://imgur.com/mqS2Aj4
https://imgur.com/ZaUoJw6
https://imgur.com/nIS2OzQ
These next 2 scans are to show it was Saturn.
https://imgur.com/d2dbspI
https://imgur.com/BXyps8u
______________________________________________________
Abzu the God of Darkness Overseer of all creation, and Destruction. Should have nigh-omnipresence. As he is darkness, and he has shown to become complete formless energy that resembles darkness. As in he has no real form, or an every changing form. He becomes one with his darkness so to speak? I don't know how to describe it honestly..... But his darkness was covering everything. (nigh Omnipresence.)
https://imgur.com/FHEWna5
https://imgur.com/zgsIFuT
https://imgur.com/BVTHlBM
https://imgur.com/XMfjKLB
https://imgur.com/QcwXRR1
https://imgur.com/HpcpR7T
https://imgur.com/F9TbFTU
https://imgur.com/esYdYZs
__________________________________________________________
oh i forgot this part, but "Super Omega Pegasus Divine Cloth" Kouga is equal to Saturn. So... Immeasurable speed too..? (Immeasurable speed.)
https://imgur.com/3JGyaxp
https://imgur.com/qOC75Lt
https://imgur.com/93yPHhF
___________________________________________________________________
The Pallasites are consistently shown to Stop Time.
https://imgur.com/bePhfmW
https://imgur.com/Nyyd417
using that one method above.
This screenshot may not show it very well, but Shun did manage to survive it and was seen moving in it, and fighting in it even after being hit by the intial blast of the attack. (Infinite speed.)
https://imgur.com/uW1dl6n
https://imgur.com/CCUxHUJ
The Gold Saint Harbinger was unaffected by it. (More infinite speed?)
https://imgur.com/5Fd5qb4
https://imgur.com/UHtTHDS
https://imgur.com/F4Xux1F more proof that pallsites are consistently shown to stop time.
__________________________________________________________
Everything in the franchise is canon. if someone says other wise. I will bring other scans showing that even the right hand column is canon material. Episode G and Episode G Assassins are over there, and even Kurumada has several interview statements that make it canon, and its also officialy recongized by serval Saint Seiya Officially recongized websites to be canon as they read as "Art is done by Okada, and Story by Kurumada."
https://imgur.com/fivVS16
____________________________________________________________________
Location: Unkown Time: Unkown Area: Unkown https://imgur.com/KllAvrW
They are in an area where the entire Multiverse, and the entire history of the multiverse connects. https://imgur.com/CPD8NiD
Take note of the girl boxed in blue here. https://imgur.com/xfSVE2u
Before that scene this is a statement she made. "I have crossed time, universes, and dimensions. All this just to find you." https://imgur.com/iYhof43
Immeasurable speed rating.
__________________________________________________________________
Eris, Ares (Saga), and Athena fighting in a transdimensional temple. (Infinite speed)
https://imgur.com/CMAiLYW
Other saints, and minions of Ares/Eris are capable of moving in this Extra Dimensional space. (infinite speed)
https://imgur.com/RRP7FER
__________________________________________________________________
The Original translations for the "Super Dimensional Space." This is the first edition english translations before Viz redid it. Which the Super Dimensional space not only Distorts time, and space, but it has the potential to send you to "another dimension." (aka another universe.) [Immeasurable speed]
https://imgur.com/vy1k20
https://imgur.com/OO0xlCX
They had to awaken an evolution in their cloths as i said before to traverse the Super Dimensional Space.
https://imgur.com/RaNtpGm
https://imgur.com/T82pHOU
https://imgur.com/9OtreiV
_______________________________________________________________
Seiya was sent to the 6th prison which by the official website is outside of spacetime. (Infinite speed)
https://imgur.com/bClpddW
https://imgur.com/C9vPTjh
Andromeda Shun with his cloths Chains were capable of brining him back. They were moving in a timeless void. (Infinite attack speed maybe?)
https://imgur.com/HvwN9rd
Seiya, and shun were at the 8th prison. (Infinite speed)
https://imgur.com/G3dvLqu
Which is the focal point of hell. (infinite speed)
https://imgur.com/uj6uevi
Ikki was teleportated from the 5th prison to the 8th prison. (Infinite speed.)
https://imgur.com/QnzvPjp
Virgo shaka, and Athena appear before Hades in the 8th prison. Shaka also states that Athena, and Him were in the Super Dimensional Space, and they got lost several times until they felt Hades cosmo. (Infinite Speed because all prisons past the 6th are beyond spacetime, and immeasurable for being in the Super Dimensional Space.)
https://imgur.com/scUKF2H
This is a map of the underworld's prisons.
https://imgur.com/1ovp1g3
)
In my personal opinion. I do think its all very clear cut, simple, and straight to the point infinite, and immeasurable speed ratings. These is a list of characters this could scale too... but we can discuss that after this is accepted maybe...?
The title may be subject to change...
