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Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)

Huesito88 said:
Really? Wow I would've thought you'd have watched it way earlier.
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By the end of 2018, to be specific. It was the final two semesters of my university and I had very little workload and very little to spend my free time on, so I just decided to binge watch Saint Seiya. Also heard online that it was "that one verse that can rival DBZ" so that got me even more curious
 
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This is how Saint Seiya threads are. This is JJ and Unshakable arguing, and then there's Hasty:

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LuffyRuffy46307 said:
There ain't none, bro
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AlexZiggy said:
The verse's profiles were pushed for temporary deletion though last I checked nobody really acknowledged it...
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I might start some since I'm going to be rereading the series from scratch, I think there just needs to be a consensus on how the feats and statements from the main series and spin offs are handled, like an actual consensus on canonicity, as well as correct translations. It might help to just compile every significant feat and statement on every tier, so you have feats on the Bronze - Silver Saint tier, feats on the Gold Saint tier, and feats on the God tier for complete accuracy, I've seen a few of these online

Do you guys have the Saint Seiya Taizen Encyclopedia raws btw?
 
EmperorRorepmeTwo said:
Posso começar um pouco, já que vou reler a série do zero, acho que só precisa haver um consenso sobre como os feitos e declarações da série principal e dos spin-offs são tratados, como um consenso real sobre canonicidade, como bem como traduções corretas. Pode ser útil apenas compilar todos os talentos e declarações significativas em cada nível, para que você tenha talentos no nível Bronze - Silver Saint, talentos no nível Gold Saint e talentos no nível God para precisão completa, eu vi alguns destes on-line

A propósito, vocês têm os raws da Enciclopédia Saint Seiya Taizen?
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Taizen I only have some parts of it in Portuguese
 
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EmperorRorepmeTwo said:
I might start some since I'm going to be rereading the series from scratch, I think there just needs to be a consensus on how the feats and statements from the main series and spin offs are handled, like an actual consensus on canonicity, as well as correct translations. It might help to just compile every significant feat and statement on every tier, so you have feats on the Bronze - Silver Saint tier, feats on the Gold Saint tier, and feats on the God tier for complete accuracy, I've seen a few of these online

Do you guys have the Saint Seiya Taizen Encyclopedia raws btw?
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I believe the raws to the Taizen were posted a few pages back on this thread
Yeah I agree I myself have a few G profiles that are only lacking tiers plus ability scans
 
EmperorRorepmeTwo said:
They all just need cleaning and I guess canonicity discussion
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Canon is settled as the Unshakeable's Canonicity CRT passed
If someone wants to dispute it they can, but currently, every official manga share the same setting, with Toei StS being non canon to it and vice versa
This likely means whatever blogs manga gets will need to be done for anime too
 
By the way, wouldn't destroying a universe in Saint Seiya be above just Low 2-C or 2-C? It might even be 2-B, no?

Based on what Shura says here, there exists multiple dimensions within a single universe, different past, presents, and futures, different timelines.

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Shura: "世界は必ずしも一つでは無い同一の宇宙を持ちながら違う未来を進む世界も存在する―並行する別の世界"

"The world is not necessarily just one; even within the same universe, there exist worlds that progress towards different futures. Parallel worlds..."

Shiryū: "別世界から･･･来たという事なのか?"

"Does that mean you came from a different world?"

Shura: "俺にもまだ確証は ないままだ一だが一これも女神の神託 ならば一従うまで"

"I still don't have any certainty, but if this is also the Oracle of the Goddess, then I will follow."

Shiryū: 世界を超えてまで 女神はなにを もと 求めている...?

"What is the Goddess seeking, even beyond the world...?"

If there are multiple timelines within a single universe, then the overarching multiverse could qualify for Low 1-C.
 
EmperorRorepmeTwo said:
By the way, wouldn't destroying a universe in Saint Seiya be above just Low 2-C or 2-C? It might even be 2-B, no?

Based on what Shura says here, there exists multiple dimensions within a single universe, different past, presents, and futures, different timelines.

xb4OUwk.png


Shura: "世界は必ずしも一つでは無い同一の宇宙を持ちながら違う未来を進む世界も存在する―並行する別の世界"

"The world is not necessarily just one; even within the same universe, there exist worlds that progress towards different futures. Parallel worlds..."

Shiryū: "別世界から･･･来たという事なのか?"

"Does that mean you came from a different world?"

Shura: "俺にもまだ確証は ないままだ一だが一これも女神の神託 ならば一従うまで"

"I still don't have any certainty, but if this is also the Oracle of the Goddess, then I will follow."

Shiryū: 世界を超えてまで 女神はなにを もと 求めている...?

"What is the Goddess seeking, even beyond the world...?"

If there are multiple timelines within a single universe, then the overarching multiverse could qualify for Low 1-C.
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I don't really know, but this seems like a solid feat of 2-C/ 2-B
 
EmperorRorepmeTwo said:
By the way, wouldn't destroying a universe in Saint Seiya be above just Low 2-C or 2-C? It might even be 2-B, no?

Based on what Shura says here, there exists multiple dimensions within a single universe, different past, presents, and futures, different timelines.

xb4OUwk.png


Shura: "世界は必ずしも一つでは無い同一の宇宙を持ちながら違う未来を進む世界も存在する―並行する別の世界"

"The world is not necessarily just one; even within the same universe, there exist worlds that progress towards different futures. Parallel worlds..."

Shiryū: "別世界から･･･来たという事なのか?"

"Does that mean you came from a different world?"

Shura: "俺にもまだ確証は ないままだ一だが一これも女神の神託 ならば一従うまで"

"I still don't have any certainty, but if this is also the Oracle of the Goddess, then I will follow."

Shiryū: 世界を超えてまで 女神はなにを もと 求めている...?

"What is the Goddess seeking, even beyond the world...?"

If there are multiple timelines within a single universe, then the overarching multiverse could qualify for Low 1-C.
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Actually, there a lot of context behind this idea that would support a 5D+ cosmology, but...... verse needs deleted and redone first
 
TheUnshakableOne said:
Actually, there a lot of context behind this idea that would support a 5D+ cosmology, but...... verse needs deleted and redone first
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Yeah that's what I was saying, because a single universe has many timelines under one "banner" so to speak, which means that there are multiple time dimensions within a single universe.

Let alone the rest of the multiverse, the multiverse can be 5D based on this.

Why does the verse need deleting though?
 
EmperorRorepmeTwo said:
Yeah that's what I was saying, because a single universe has many timelines under one "banner" so to speak, which means that there are multiple time dimensions within a single universe.

Let alone the rest of the multiverse, the multiverse can be 5D based on this.

Why does the verse need deleting though?
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Depends on how you interpret the cosmology, but the Multiverse is already 5D so an extra temporal dimension would make ot 6D
 
TheUnshakableOne said:
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Saint Seiya Complete Verse Overhual - Revenge of Tier 1 Upgrades -

I created a cosmology blog for Saint Seiya. The link for it is here https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:TheUnshakableOne/sandbox The blog has no tier proposal within it, but will be used going forward to provide justification on profiles. The below are the tiers being proposed. There...
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I think the only mistake you made was making a proposal for the verse to be 1-A, since he had a very solid base for low 1-C with those quotes he mentioned.
 
TheUnshakableOne said:
vsbattles.com

Saint Seiya Complete Verse Overhual - Revenge of Tier 1 Upgrades -

I created a cosmology blog for Saint Seiya. The link for it is here https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:TheUnshakableOne/sandbox The blog has no tier proposal within it, but will be used going forward to provide justification on profiles. The below are the tiers being proposed. There...
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I think it's because you began with Tier Low 1-A and 1-A but Low 1-C is much more acceptable based on the current tiering standards and I think it will be overwhelming accepted
 
EmperorRorepmeTwo said:
By the way, wouldn't destroying a universe in Saint Seiya be above just Low 2-C or 2-C? It might even be 2-B, no?

Based on what Shura says here, there exists multiple dimensions within a single universe, different past, presents, and futures, different timelines.

xb4OUwk.png


Shura: "世界は必ずしも一つでは無い同一の宇宙を持ちながら違う未来を進む世界も存在する―並行する別の世界"

"The world is not necessarily just one; even within the same universe, there exist worlds that progress towards different futures. Parallel worlds..."

Shiryū: "別世界から･･･来たという事なのか?"

"Does that mean you came from a different world?"

Shura: "俺にもまだ確証は ないままだ一だが一これも女神の神託 ならば一従うまで"

"I still don't have any certainty, but if this is also the Oracle of the Goddess, then I will follow."

Shiryū: 世界を超えてまで 女神はなにを もと 求めている...?

"What is the Goddess seeking, even beyond the world...?"

If there are multiple timelines within a single universe, then the overarching multiverse could qualify for Low 1-C.
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This exact scan was brought up but its translation was disputed... though as Hasty said, the whole verse is on some duel of the translators shit
 
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