“Bad faith arguments” yeah buddy just doesn’t engage in actual counters presented before him ok that’s fine
I’ll just address the new op.
Dimensionality
1. Sailor Mercury in the 1ast arc uses in-world math, to create a
super dimensional structure. The attack has been translated as hypersphere, super dimensional space, hyperspatial sphere, etc. Japanese word 'chou' can be used for both super and hyper.
Cool, none of this proves higher dimensional superiority in a qualitative sense. Saying the words “super” or “higher dimensional” structures doesn’t necessarily entail qualitative superiority over the space they reside in, that needs to be demonstrated and proven.
Sailor Mercury uses it to bring the battle to a 4D space to prevent the game center and surrounding area from being damaged in the battle.
Queen Beryl also comments, "fight wherever you want" confirming that they are in a new location, and not simply inside a forcefield. Mathematically speaking, a super dimensional anything cannot fit inside 3D space, so there must be at least 4D space on some level within the verse to accommodate. This plus the fact that Sailor Moon needed to calculations in order to do the attack, means the attack is based in mathematical theory and is an actual hypersphere. This would mean that the universe possesses at least 4 dimensions of space, bringing 5D spacetime.
Why “must there be” a 4D space on some level. Nothing in your scans presented says that a 4-D space “must be” generated for a higher dimensional structure. Nothing says the structure itself is a qualitatively superior to outside either, that’s just an assumption you’ve generated.
And especially nothing here cites that a 5-D space-time must be generated for the space. You’re just stacking assumption on top of assumption with no in canon backing to it. Saying “math” doesn’t cut it since you actually need to cite the specific mathematical properties being applied, not just “math” as a concept.
Nothing cited here has demonstrated qualitative superiority in determining a 5-D space.
2. During the second arc, while the using the Silver Crystal, it is directly stated that time exists in
layers. Prince Demande says, "A clear beautiful power. A light unhindered by the layers of time. This sentence is not hyperbole or flowerly language. I will explain why:
These “layers of time” don’t need to separate directional coordinates separate from spatial axises, they can all be part of 1 4-D space-time structure. Not added together like addition, that’s not how dimensionality works.
During the second arc, we find out that the Silver Crystal of the past can only
work in the past and does not work in the future. After a
power up from, Neo Queen Serenity, Sailor Moon's silver crystal sends power to itself from the past. When this is done the first time, Wiseman
comments about how the Silver Crystal doesn't lose power despite crossing time and space and being exposed to the power negation of the Black crystal.
During the scene, Sailor Moon is using her crystal in the future, so she is currently sending power to herself from the past. (Again in the same seen we are reminded that the silver crystal of the past can't
work in the future)Prince Demand comments on this, and talks about how the Silver Crystal doesn't lose power of brilliance as it travels through the layers of time. He is directly commenting on what happening in literal time. Prince Demande is also a time traveler with extensive
knowledge of time and its mechanics as his
goal was to change history.
While it is not stated how many layers there are of time, but we can easily just say that the universe has at least two dimensions of time.
“Two dimensions of time” again you don’t add them as part of the space as if they’re all part of the same structure when you haven’t demonstrated the time itself are directional coordinates deviating off of the same structure. None of this is being presented in your scans or evidence.
So, in conclusion, the Sailor Moon universe or multiverse for that matter, should have at least Four dimensions of space and 2 dimensions of Time. This would put the cosmology at least 6D cosmology or Low 1-C but we are not done yet.
Not even close.
Qualitative Superiority
1. The Corridor of Spacetime
The Corridor of spacetime (also called the underworld, rift, spacetime etc.), is a realm that is stated directly to have
no concept of Distance or Direction and coordinates are undefined. Sailor Mercury, who can
track people across indefinite distances (the space between spacetimes) and can calculate super dimensional spaces, could figure out this space.
All time and space are subsets of this space. The Tau Star System which is an entire infinite universe, exists in a
region within the Corridor. Sailor Pluto used the corridor to
seal away the accesss to this universe. The Future and Past of the main universe exist as
separate locations within the Corridor. People who wander the corridor can end up
lost in time.
This realm, is beyond spacetime of the verse, and should qualify above it, bringing the verse to 7D or 1-C (6D spacetime plus 1 level of Qualitive superiority)
Literally what standards of qualitative superiority have been met here. You actually didn’t list or explain anything in regards to the criteria for it, you literally just said “it’s superior” and so it’s a whole ah dimension higher
Actually explain how this meets the standard of qualitative superiority please and thank you.
2. The Galaxy Cauldron
The Galaxy Cauldron is the next layer. This place is the most holiest place in the verse. It is the
source of everything and where all possibilities are created. It formed the Silver Crystal and gave it all its particles, which
transcends time and space, but can also destroy everything, including the Corridor of Spacetime, via a special paradox.
The Silver Crystal, and beings and powers on par or near to it's power, exist as insignificants within the Galaxy Cauldron, being
miniscule (or
infinitesimals).
This place should be superior to the Corridor of Spacetime, and should qualify above it, bringing it to 8D, which is still 1-C. (6D spacetime plus 2 levels of qualitative superiority)
Again you’re literally just saying “it should be superior” while not actually demonstrating or explaining how it meets the criteria for qualitative superiority. Even statements such as “transcending time” don’t inherently lead to qualitative superiority, let alone for 8-D levels.
3. The Lambda Power
The
Lambda Power is the ultimate force in Sailor Moon. With it, Sailor Moon Purged Chaos, who had fused with the Galaxy Cauldron and undid the destruction caused by Sailor Galaxia, and resurrected all the melted Sailor Crystals. It also has the power to reset the entire verse. Chaos who was fully formed in the Cauldron, is now trivialized into almost nothing via the Lambda Power.
It should be superior to the Galaxy Cauldron, and should qualify above it, bringing it to 9D, which is still 1-C (6D spacetime plus 3 levels of qualitative superiotiy).
“It should be superior” deadass this is all you’re saying
We don’t go by “should” or not we go by qualitative superiority. Actually demonstrate and explain how the criteria for that is being met instead of just saying meaningless words about how it should be superior to something else you arbitrarily decided was higher dimensional than another thing.
It being superior or above something else doesn’t inherently entail qualitative superiority.
Who gets what?
Tier 1-C (9-D): Lambda Sailor Moon, Sailor Chaos, Sailor Cosmos
Tier 1-C (8-D): Chaos
Range 1-C (7-D): Sailor Moon, Death Phantom, Black Lady, Sailor Pluto
NOTE: No derailment like in the last thread.
Still disagree with the thread. Because the evidence is just not there to present the claims being made.
