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So wait, if you used magic to create a rock and threw that rock would Magic Resistance null it (Ignoring normal Servant resistances)
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Saber vs Gunvolt: Warriors of another "Calibur"
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That's crazy bruh Fate is weird.
Also GV doesn't say the lines, but it's probably something that goes through his head when he does it. Evidenced by his boss fight in GV2 and that it all happens too dang fast. (Though in the latter fight he does say a line to be cool, TBH all of it is kinda there to be cool). Every time, he does typically say "Oversurge, Azure Striker", but it probably doesn't affect the output ngl.
Also GV doesn't say the lines, but it's probably something that goes through his head when he does it. Evidenced by his boss fight in GV2 and that it all happens too dang fast. (Though in the latter fight he does say a line to be cool, TBH all of it is kinda there to be cool). Every time, he does typically say "Oversurge, Azure Striker", but it probably doesn't affect the output ngl.
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By the way, what exactly is putting Fate at 4D?
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A... surprising amount. I shan't say more, though. Gotta keep some secrets before the big CRT happens
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I'm going to assume it's stuff from the wider nasuverse rather than Fate itself mostly.
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Copen vs Archer worked well.
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That's still debatable since Servants haven't touched Electrons.
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Actually
Servants are made of Spiritrons IIRC
Which are quantum particles according to Sherlock Holmes
Servants are made of Spiritrons IIRC
Which are quantum particles according to Sherlock Holmes
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Yeah and humans are made of atoms, dosn't make them any harder to hit.
Maybe if a Servant can hit another servant in Spirit form.
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Servants can interact with beings made of energy, made of quantum particles, made of literal nonexistence, and actual electricity. saying "they can't hit this one very specific thing even though they can hit literally everything that is superior to it" is huge NLF
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Even normal humans can physically interact with servants, being made of quantum particles means about as much as us being made out of atoms in real life.
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Being made out of particles dosn't make Servants or Humans intangible, being made of electrons does make Gunvolt intangible.
Hitting a Servant is about as impressive as touching a chair. I'm touching a chair right now. Dosn't mean I can punch electrons.
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Except Gunvolt being intangible does not help him here, in the slightest, due to Servant's NPI encompassing literally all types of NPI.
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This is one of the dumbest debates on anything ever.
This isn’t even a match related to whose abilities interact, it’s literally
“Can A affect B”
This isn’t even a match related to whose abilities interact, it’s literally
“Can A affect B”
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Eh, nothing to fret over.
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Schnee 2 is dead
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Schnee Three
Yes I'm aware this has nothing to do with the thread
Yes I'm aware this has nothing to do with the thread
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Gonna have to check if he's alive
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Nah he's good
Schnee Team
The 4th Tactical Fighter Squadron, also known as Schnee Team, was an elite Belkan Air Force squadron and operated four F-14D Super Tomcats and an EA-6B Prowler. The Schnee pilots used their aircraft to their best in battle. Their tactics rely on confusing and surrounding their enemies. Their...
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Nah he's good
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Also i forgot about this until now, but Servants can actually hit eachother when they're in spirit form, IE dispersed into spirit particles
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Smashor my man, just think of it like this:
We can actually make more matches without it being a stomp by default due to Prevasion.
We can actually make people aware of Azure Striker Gunvolt's literal existence. So who's the real winner here? (well all of us I guess)
Plz guys these games are good check em out
We can actually make more matches without it being a stomp by default due to Prevasion.
We can actually make people aware of Azure Striker Gunvolt's literal existence. So who's the real winner here? (well all of us I guess)
Plz guys these games are good check em out
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No it's not, you don't get every type of NPI just because you can damage certain things. Like I said, JoJo stands can punch souls but cannot punch fog. It's a similar situation here.
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The quantum particule is because her being is unstable on a quantum level making impossible to affect her normaly. She just a bunch a quantum particle that don't have correlation with the other
And actually if the servant make himself in spiritual form their are intangible but can't atk too
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Hate to revive a dead thread but I do have a question. Since Prevasion can be disabled after a consulting an higher up, couldn't the same thing apply to Servants and just be able to say "___ is able to harm Servant"? The Servant itself is still combat functional and doesn't need to change how they fight really, much like Prevasion users, so couldn't this be applied?
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Prevasion is reliant on equipment though? Saber in particular you could probably have be her living self since she's one of the few servants that was basically the same in life as a Servant, but most other servants can't get that.
Also I realized there's no evidence of Magic Resistance working on psychic powers other than mystic eyes, and there's no reason to assume it would work on other psychic abilities.
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Exactly. It's magecraft, not actual psionics, since actual psionics are a separate concept.
I assume you mean Anti-Unit NPs that scale to physical strength, correct?
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we don't have psionic in fate... we have magecraft, true magie, and esp. and praticall all esp are thing that servant have and mr high level show resist. (magecraft being allmodern superntural power, true magic ancient magie from age of god, and esp being mystic eyes and pure eyes)
psychonesis, telekinesis being power that magecraft can give i don't see the problem
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read what it's tell in description most of ability are alredy done by servant ( preco etc) done by pure eyes and mystic eyes or just demon in general who are being that servant fight or themself are servant
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MR works on all Psionics, because psionics and magecraft fall under the exact same mystery system.
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Yeah, considering how Septima is described (Basically The Force from Star Wars) it would fall under "Mystery".
